do i need to take my local boards for my CES?

Silverdragon102, BSN · Mar 17, 2007

hi guys, ive asked this question before but i really really have to be sure that i dont need to take my NLE here in the philippines to be able to get a CES (georgia) coz ill be leaving for the states pretty soon and i have to make sure, thanks guys

Has been mentioned a few times but NO you do not need to take local boards but if you have taken them and failed you have to declare the same if taken nd passed. You need to subit a letter saying you haven't taken local boards. Do not lie to them

kanebo · Apr 20, 2007

Has been mentioned a few times but NO you do not need to take local boards but if you have taken them and failed you have to declare the same if taken nd passed. You need to subit a letter saying you haven't taken local boards. Do not lie to them

Do you know anyone who could attest that he/she was given CES even without a local license? I wonder if there is anyone who can personally share how he did it...coz right now I am having a problem with my CES because of the License Validation Form that CGFNS is "waiting to be received" (this is what is stated when I checked my status online) otherwise they will not begin to review my credentials. I emailed them and reiterated what I stated in my application form that I was never licensed because I have never taken any licensure exam in the past therefore there is no license to validate. But this is their reply to me yesterday:

Please note that to date, CGFNS has only received a portion of the

documents needed to review your application for the CGFNS Credential

Evaluation Service. We are unable to review your application documents and

prepare your CES Report until we receive the information listed below.

Please be advised that receipt of the documents listed below does NOT

mean that CGFNS has received all of the materials necessasry to prepare

your CES Report; it means only that a credentials review will occur.

The documents still outstanding are as follows:

LICENSE VALIDATION FORM

In order to begin preparing your CES Report, we need to receive the

above-listed completion materials . Be advised that upon receipt and

review of the necessary documentation by CGFNS, preparation and completion

of your CES Report will take up to five weeks

I don't know what to do? I need help anyone...

suzanne4, RN · Apr 20, 2007

Many receive the CES without taking their local exam. This is an error that you need to clear up with CGFNS.

What did you write on your application in the space on the application?

suzanne4, RN · Apr 20, 2007

ces is strictly a credentials evaluation and does not require a license to be able to get it.

the only process that requires the local license is the cgfns exam. unless it is specifically waived by cgfns.

kanebo · Apr 20, 2007

Many receive the CES without taking their local exam. This is an error that you need to clear up with CGFNS.
What did you write on your application in the space on the application?

This is what is asked in the application form:

If you are not currently registered/licensed please indicate and explain.

Then there are two choices:

a. Not currently registered/licensed

b. Never registered/licensed

So I checked the box that indicates "Never registered/licensed"

Then my explanation goes like this:

"I have not taken any licensure exam in the past in my country or in anywhere else because I have no intention to practice nursing there."

So Suzanne how do I go about this? My sister and I applied the same time and we both have the same problem. Pls help.

kanebo · Apr 20, 2007

I also want to hear from someone who had his CES without a local license. Was the License Validation Form ever asked inspite of your declaration that you were never licensed? Did you experience anything similar to what we are encountering right now? Anyone?

suzanne4, RN · Apr 20, 2007

Just take the time to do a search here, even look at the thread about working in Illinois/licensure in Illinois. There are many on there that obtained the CES and did not get a license in your country. And they have posted there.

But the issue now is that there have been several that gave fraudulent information to CGFNS for the VSC, so they are going ever everything with a fine-tooth comb. You can thank those that did that for the issues that you are now having.

You are going to need to submit proof from PRC that you did not sit for the exam there. That should work. There are those that sat for it, and then stated that they would not get a license in PI, got the VSC, then turned around and got the license there. You are going to see CGFNS/ICHP questioning everything now. And it does not surprise me. They need to do that.

kanebo · Apr 29, 2007

just take the time to do a search here, even look at the thread about working in illinois/licensure in illinois. there are many on there that obtained the ces and did not get a license in your country. and they have posted there.
but the issue now is that there have been several that gave fraudulent information to cgfns for the vsc, so they are going ever everything with a fine-tooth comb. you can thank those that did that for the issues that you are now having.
you are going to need to submit proof from prc that you did not sit for the exam there. that should work. there are those that sat for it, and then stated that they would not get a license in pi, got the vsc, then turned around and got the license there. you are going to see cgfns/ichp questioning everything now. and it does not surprise me. they need to do that.

i emailed illinois state board of nursing last april 23 regarding being licensed in my homecountry. this is what i emailed them:

i am a filipino and a graduate of bs nursing from the philippines last october 2006. i did not take nor do i have plans of taking the national licensure exam or local board in my country because i do not like to work here instead i want to work as an rn in us, particularly in illinois . do you require foreign applicants like me to be licensed in their country of origin?

and this is their reply:

yes, we do. it will be required in the credentialing process.

i am really saddened by the reply of illinois state board of nursing because in my mind i really do not have plans of taking the local board as suggested by suzanne...but with this reply of illinois state board of nursing do i have any other choice? i just wonder why you keep on saying in this thread that local license is not needed...

chichimitchi · Apr 29, 2007

ok this sucks for all of us... but what do u think about like applying for say california then endorsing to ur choice of state that does require CES? ive heard they wont require u to have a CES then.. my friend is an example.. she has a license in cali and is planning to work in nevada (which requires CES) and they told her that CES wont be needed since cali has their own way of evaluating peoples credential.. just a thought might work for u too

kanebo · Apr 29, 2007

ok this sucks for all of us... but what do u think about like applying for say california then endorsing to ur choice of state that does require CES? ive heard they wont require u to have a CES then.. my friend is an example.. she has a license in cali and is planning to work in nevada (which requires CES) and they told her that CES wont be needed since cali has their own way of evaluating peoples credential.. just a thought might work for u too

I am really not sure if it will work for Illinois because from what I've read in the threads, Suzanne has been repeating many times that there's no way to skip CES even by endorsement not only in Illinois but in other states as well...besides she was also discouraging people to apply by endorsement in Illinois since it takes I think more than a year before they give you a license...and my other concern is my tourist visa which is about to expire next year that is why I want to do the fastest route possible...

But Suzanne... assuming that I apply for NM and got my license there, do I send the License Validation form to New Mexico for my CES because I have 1 year from the time I applied my CES which was last March 26, 2007 to complete all reqts so that my $300 will not be put to waste. Do you think that will work?...I need to act fast...

suzanne4, RN · Apr 29, 2007

Local license is not required for immigration purposes. Each state is free to set their own requirements for licensure. Most do not require a local license. Illinois in the past required the local license because they did require the CGFNS exam, but that requirement has been changed to the CES. Each state can make their own determination.

It is not required for the CES.

And most states that want the CES for initial licensure, also want it for endorsement. There are always going to be exceptions to this rule, and that is why I always tell everyone to go to the website for the state where they wish to work. Things change all of the time. And I do not have the time to check each of these states' websites on a weekly basis.