Need help, Not Insults..

[MaleNursesRock]

..Some of you may know my posts, I posted several threads (the last one being deleted on my request)-due to many members in here that hurled insults my way, by calling me "childish", that i needed "therapy" and implying that i was a bad nurse, having never met me or know anything about me. I swore that i would never come back here because of it. But now i need some help with some questions and i dont know sny other better "resouce" than the people that are here.

My story (in sum)

I tested jan 25th

Everyone in my class (people that tested before me AND after me) have all seen their name online

I called the BRN 4 times and they all say the same thing "you file is complete, and it is being "processeed".(twice , they hung up on my-mid conversation)-

questions

#1 The BRn says you can work on your IP liscence UNTIL you get written notice that you "officially" failed. so, from the time they mail you the noitice, and until you get it in the mail-theoretically, you are not "covered"-so if yo make a mistake during this time, ??? whos responsible for you not working with a current liscense ? --what if theoretically, you NEVER receive it in thr mail ?? mail does get lost. You could, theoretically, work indeffinitely ?? up to you 6 months ??---and if you make a mistake, the BRN will say-"well, we mailed off notification that he failed, so his liscense was null and void-so liabilility falls on him", then person A could say "i never received it in the mail" ??---whos at fault here..----why not just Pull the IP liscence off line IMMEDIALTEy ?? when they mail off the fail letter.

as for me, i didnt want to fall under this scenario, cause being sued is not a good thing right now, so last week-i went on a leave of absence from my work place . even though i need the money, being that i am an ex-cop, i can see this scenario where im working, the BRN mails my letter of failure (ending my ip ) liscense and negating their liability on me, me never getting the letter in the mail, and making a mistake-getting sued and the BRN says "well its not our fault"--and me losing my house and everything that i own.

#2 So it takes at least 30 days to get the fail letter (thats what they said), so when i get it.. I can see what areas i am low in...a person can re-test after 45 days. So that leaves me 15 days to "brush up" on those areas ??--i know some people will say "just wait longer to test"--I need the money, i have to get back to work ASAP, taking in consideration the 45 days i have to wait, coupled with the 30-45 days that it takes for notification that i passed (i know that my second time, i will have to wait along time as well). thats almost 3 months !, i have some savings but not that much--

Im studying right now but it seems like i am spinning my wheels.--

i dont see what i can do differently ??-i cant gain "more knowledge" in 45 days, --i like i said if i had my test result back i could focus in on those areas..but i wont have them until AT least 30 days-so all ican do is assume what areas i need to focus on.

#3 many people say that NCLEX is more about "test taking" strategies than about knowledge. I took a NCLEX review course for a week in frisco, they told us many tips--None of which worked, they said--look out for the questiuon that doesnt seem like the others--I couldnt see that on the test, ?!!..they said avoid words like "never" "all" etc...i dodnt see any of those words...so yeas i did take a course and no i i didnt help me.

My wife is a RN and i have all her books and a bunch of my own-i used them all, I did 100+ questions a day for the last 4 months (while i was in 4th sem on)-it obviously didnt help.

I bought the Kaplan book-(it comes in the mail tommorrow)-everyone swears by it so i thought i would get it.

--i know the first thing some people will say is -"you dont know you failed-you havnt gotten the letter"--i say, no one has ever waited this long (im in california)--i hear stories on here about people waiting a long time to see their name online BUT--they are ALL foreign students with no SSN, i , unfortunatley am american born and have one-everyone in my class has seen their name online.everyone..-its going on 3 weeks now--even the lady at the BRn told me and i will quote" The longer it goes and you dont see your name online-the worse it is"..

So please, if you can offer me suggetions/answers to my questions i would greatly appreciate it.and please dont insult me when im down.

Im expecting a baby next month, i have a 2 year old as well-I NEED to get going for my family, i am stressed beyond, i physically ill-waiting like this, checking everyday at 0500 in the morning for my name to "miracuously" to appear..even though i "know" i failed. but cannot get that little voice of hope out of my soul,

Thank you for any help you guys can offer

JON

[MaleNursesRock]

To add, i truley beleive that you guys are genuine on helping me. I have covered all the angles as best as i can, (thats why i am here seeking ways i have not thought of yet)...I am truley appreciative , i just want to do the right thing, what that is , i dont know, i have never been here before, all i know is that my entire class has seen their name online, everyone...those that tested last week saw their names today...so, logically speaking..i have to assume that i failed, whats the odds that my file (which has been verified, by a live person at the BRN--is complete ) that my file is somehow, "missing" "lost" or that my assessor is "slower" than most or that he/she is sick..ive ran these sceanrios threw my head..I came on here and read hundreds of threads looking for someone in my "shoes",

all i found was foreign students that had no SSN, did not see their names, but that doesnt apply to me.

--even the lady i spoke with told me "the longer that it goes without seeing your name online, is not good"--i even asked her , mabye, just mabye i will get my pass leeter before i see my name online, (as i have seen people do in here)

she said "that will never happen"...

[michaRN, RN]

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[michaRN, RN]

[suzanne4, RN]

Foreign nurses without a SSN# are completely a different story and have nothing to do with you whatsoever. There are several facts that you need to contend with, and you alone.

1. You need to find out directly if your file is considered complete, it may be missing something and that is the only thing that is holding up the release of your records. We see that all of the time here.

2. When you mailed in your IP to the BRN, it means that you no longer have it in your possession, therefore you can no longer work in that capacity. Licenses or permits always need to be in the direct possession of the nurse and can be asked for to be seen at anytime while you are at work, and if not immediately available, then you are working without a permit.

Not sure why you have decided that you have failed in the first place. There is no reason whatever to suspect that, and that attitude will not get you far in this field. Almost all that test think that they have failed the exam, none come out thinking that they aced it. There was no reason for you to submit a letter of resignation in the first place either, having a defeatist attitude does not help anyone. Otherwise, what are you going to do when something that does not go your way when you are caring for patients or a physician yells at you, or a family yells at you, or whatever else that you can come up with.

I understand that you are hurting at this time, but you do not have anything concrete to feel this way over in the first place. And the secretaries that answer the phones are not the ones that review the files and issue the licenses in the first place.

Have you actually asked them if your file is complete? We have seen many times when the transcripts have not arrived and just because they were sent, does not mean that they all got put into the correct folder in the first place. Do you know for a fact that your file is complete? And do you actually know how the BRN does things?

When they receive the results of the exam from Pearson-Vue, they are manually added to your file; then the file is checked again for completion, and when complete, it is reviewed one final time again by a human and then and only then is a number issued and the license number posted on-line. Your file is a paper one that is placed in a pile on a desk, depends also on your last name and where in the pile that your file is sitting. And if the reviewer is out sick for a few days, anything can happen. Just as storms affect things as well.

Without knowing for a fact if your file is comlete or not, there is not one thing that you should be assuming. And files are not gone over as per school of graduation or anything like that, by last name only.

You need to find out about your specific file before deciding anything, suspect that something is missing from it. They do not wait a month to sent out a letter if you failed, even for foreign nurses. Letters for the foreign nurses are sent out in 2 1/2 weeks, it just takes time for them to arrive. And their files need to be complete before they are even permitted to sit for the exam in the first place.

[MaleNursesRock]

If im coming off as defeatist mabye..I was in the desert storm 91, a psych counselor in a locked down psych facility, i was on the jail house swat extration team..I am a can do type of person..i have never failed in anything that i have attempted, yet...the NCLEX has literally kicked my butt, I fear that test more than the numerous physical and life threatening situations, in war and in law enforcement, because, no matter how hard i prepare, now matter how hard i study, no matter if my patients love me, and my boss adores me, and my co-workers respect me...

The NCLEX does not care, the BRN will never see my work evaluations were i gor all maxmum scores and some above max, from my employere, the BRN will never see how i comforted the dying patient in her room, the brn will never see how i help a co-worker with 2 admissions while doing 3 of my own...

Im not going to give up, i told my loved ones that i would give it one more try..in march i hope...I respect and appreciate all the support and advice im getting. Im hurt, not a quitter, im discouraged but not defeated, i am scared but will test again.

and yes...i have spoke to 4 people at the BRN , in person they said my file is complete, needing nothing. but still being processed...i asked them several times "sir/ma'am if yo need anything on my end, let me know and i will get it to you..forms, classes, anytrhing' they say, "nope, we have it all right here", 'thank you"

thank you suzzane for your insight, i do appreciate it.

[eldragon]

You went to nursing school and you're only going to give the NCLEX one more try, if indeed you find out you failed this time?

I hope you aren't serious.

It's only a test. An important test, but still only a test. Every nurse passes it sometime and not always the first time.

Chin up! This too shall pass.

[suzanne4, RN]

Again, not sure why you submitted your resignation before even knowing the results of your exam. They do not wait a month to mail a letter to you, you do not know where your file is on someone's desk.

I understand that you are under much stress at this time, but walking away from a job that you had just does not make any sense at all to any of us. You are basing things on what students in your class told you and they are far from being correct on anything, that is for sure.

Sending in the IP is the same as having it cancelled right away, it is no longer in your possession so does not matter what it says on the BRN website, the issue is that you can no longer produce it.

When you do find out your results, please take time for yourself before you do anything else, even look for a new job. You need to take the time to just get your head back on your shoulders at this time. Trying to find a job with the state of your mind right now is not going to help anyone.

Yes, you are frustrated at this time, but there is not one thing that can be done until you get your actual results, and as all of us have told you over and over again, we have seen quite a few get their passing results in just under a month and that is when they did have a SSN#. You need to have faith in yourself more than anything at this time.

And if you do not pass, I am willing to help you pass this next time, but you cannot have the defeatist attitude that you are showing right now.

Deal?

[MaleNursesRock]

Agreed, and Deal.

Thank you.

[HopefulRN82]

Hey Malenursesrock,

I know that its discouraging, but you haven't gotten yoru results yet. So hang in there. You do have a lot on your plate, but its not the end of the world. I know its a lot of stress, as I'm going through the same thing you are. I learned recently that I failed I'm taking my test in April again. I know its not easy since you want to go on with your life and provide a great life for your family, it sucks, but you'll make it. Determination is what makes great individuals with a goal to succeed and change, what others fail to do.

I had the same experience with the exam, I took Kaplan, all the strategies that they told me to use, never worked, unless I'm not looking at it the same way. I don't remember using any of the strategies and the answers were almost all the same. I have no idea. But I'm gonna study the best I can, and use suzanne's plan, in hopes that I have better insight and confidence, I took two months out of work, my fiance is working to pay our mortgage, we have a wedding coming up in a year, trying to save, but can't. I had a miscarriage 2 months ago, I just want to get on with my life and live it, and be the best nurse I know i can be. But life happens, I take it stride and do the best I can do with it. So keep your head up, I'll be praying for you and don't give up, we'll both make it. And one day, we'll look back and say, we did it, we earned it, and I'd do it all again.. maybe not the last part..maybe...=)

[MaleNursesRock]

Thank you , hopefulRn..

I will pray for you as well, Your right Life does happen..I just wish it could ahve taken a pause,..just let me pass my boards and life is gravy...With a 2 RN houshold we will be doing great, i just have to pass the dreaded beast i call NCLEX..