My Theory On Modern Nursing vs How It Used To Be

purplemania, BSN, RN · Nov 12, 2003

I don't believe nurses ever commanded respect from everyone because it is perceived as a servant's role by some. My grandmother was a nurse and her tales sound a lot like ours. Some people cannot be nice, no matter what.

SmilingBluEyes · Nov 12, 2003

i agree w/purple. And there are many among us right here who feel we should not enter the profession unless "called to it"....

that is one problem in nursing. we are expected to be Florence or Mother Theresa, demanding nothing along the way.

wrong.

agent · Nov 12, 2003

Another one of these posts..

I would really sincerely love to know, what do you propose nurses do about it to start to change things?

Complaining will get you nowhere, I don't mean to be harsh its just true.

I work for a large corporation right now and have been through my fair share of politics. I know that administrations only see complianing as a further sign of weakness and inability. Their way of dealing with whining and complaining is to knuckle down.

Isn't that what has been happening to nurses?

SmilingBluEyes · Nov 13, 2003

welp agent what are YOUR answers.

and why can't people vent here.

WHEN and IF you enter nursing, THEN tell me what/how to behave or think as a nurse, ok?

Thank YOU.

live4today, RN · Nov 13, 2003

Originally posted by Frances LeMay

Modern nursing--Administration - Remember, the customer is always right.

How it used to be--Administration - Remember, the nurse is right until proven wrong.

Fran," the customer is always right" is what ticks me off the most!

In our country, our law says people should be treated as if they are "innocent until proven guilty"..............well, that is how it use to be because today's society treats people as if they are already guilty and must be proven innocent by none other than "people with a bad attitude". :rolleyes:

Hellllllo Nurse, BSN, RN · Nov 13, 2003

Originally quoted by SmilingBluEyes:

"welp agent what are YOUR answers.

and why can't people vent here.

WHEN and IF you enter nursing, THEN tell me what/how to behave or think as a nurse, ok?

Thank YOU."

Isn't is amazing that people who aren't even nurses yet think they know the scoop?

That's just like when people who don't have kids think they know how to raise them and give out parenting advice.

(BTW, I don't have kids and don't presume to know how to raise them).

agent:rolleyes:

4loveoflife · Nov 13, 2003

I still can't get past the fact that you refer to patients as "customers". That is alarming to me for some reason.

Nurse89 · Nov 13, 2003

Originally posted by Frances LeMay
Modern nursing--What's respect?
How it used to be--Thank you, nurse

Modern nursing--I'm going to sue the pants off of you, the doctor, and this hospital!
How it used to be--I understand. Everyone makes a mistake now and then.

Too many people today are ready to sue at the drop of the hat. Instead of working for their income, they'd rather sit on their you know whats and get easy money from someone else.

The insurance companies run most hospitals, so the hospitals and staff bend over to please their clients.
How it used to be--People and insurance companies earned their keep, they also gave a helping hand when needed.

This is my theory, and I'm sticking to it!

Great thread Frances

without quoting your whole thread..these are some of the reasons I left hospital nursing, besides what it was doing to my back

back to the original thread, yes, things have changed. I have been a nurse for almost 15 years and the changes are incredible. I still enjoy nursing, but I sure enjoyed it more back then

Nurse89 · Nov 13, 2003

the mad face is not what i meant to display...it's more of a sad frown

Nurse89 · Nov 13, 2003

Originally posted by agent
Another one of these posts..

I would really sincerely love to know, what do you propose nurses do about it to start to change things?

Complaining will get you nowhere, I don't mean to be harsh its just true.

I work for a large corporation right now and have been through my fair share of politics. I know that administrations only see complianing as a further sign of weakness and inability. Their way of dealing with whining and complaining is to knuckle down.

Isn't that what has been happening to nurses?

yes agent, another one of these threads...if you haven't even begun your nursing career how can you be so critical of us nurses?

so... have you initiated any actions at your large corporation, if so, how are things going??

karbyr · Nov 13, 2003

I am heading towards my 20th year as a nurse and I agree, it ain't what it used to be (sorta like the old gray mare)..........I graduated the same year that DRG's came out.......they weren't real evident as yet at that time. I believe that throughout the eighties, health care was commandeered by the lawyers...........when they got done with us, the accountants stepped in...............I can't really decide which has been worse for us or our patients...........so, lets see, health care in the U.S. is now being run by groups informally known as sharks and bean counters..........and the public is just becoming aware that there's a crisis????? One of the few strategies that I have actually come to appreciate (slowly)..............are the docs who don't accept insurance. They bill the patient direct and the patient bills the insurance. Let enough of the public get burned with that and maybe they will start putting some pressure on their insurance companies..............unfortunately, nursing is so damn dependant in so many ways, that its only when the docs do something drastic like that that we may see some side benefits..........eventually.