My Experience with Cliques and Bullies and How I Learned to Deal with Them

This article is for help with cliques and bullying during the pre-reqs experience and how to deal with the difficulties that these situations hold. Nursing Students Pre-Nursing Article

Cliques and bullying are usually something that is generally reserved for the adolescent years. But unfortunately, you’ll find yourself dealing with cliques during Pre-reqs. I’ve dealt with them, from being bullied, childish rumors, and lies. As a prereq student, I never knew what meanness truly was until I stepped foot in my prerequisite science classes. As difficult of a time this was, it brought out character and wisdom that I’ll carry on throughout life. I’m not a self-help guru by any means, but I’ll give you the “types” of mean girls/guys I ran into, the experiences I’ve had with them, and tips that I’ve learned along the way. I felt urged to write this as a way of healing and a way of helping others.

Know the “origins” of the clique

A clique is usually made up of deeply insecure or bitter individuals. They typically band together to form what “seems” like a united front, but in reality, it’s not. The origins of a clique technically stem from loneliness or insecurity of some sort, and cliques pick on someone they deem to be weaker, but they are the weak ones.  The clique consists of three subtypes: The Queen Bee, the lapdog, and the followers.

Understanding Queen Bee, the lapdog, and the followers

The alpha is usually on top of the game. She is typically smart and has many strong social ties, especially with the professors, but instead of being ‘humble,’ she’s the complete opposite. Most Queen Bees that I’ve run across are very skillful at having a Jekyll and Hyde persona and are extremely manipulative and jealous.  Despite academic and social achievements, many Queen bees are usually trying to fill a void (explained to me by an older confidant). The lapdog is usually the Queen Bee’s best friend, and she usually does what the queen bee tells her to do; for example, if the queen bee wants to ruin someone, the lapdog will usually gather up a mob to make sure this is done, without leave a “trace” of evidence. Whom the lapdog socializes with strongly depends on the circle of the Queen Bee. Finally, the followers are either usually afraid of the wrath or want to be in the loop.

Don’t give them a reaction

From experience, if you usually give cliques a response, you go through the class or possibly the rest of your school experience with a target on your back.  Yes, we are human and allowed to feel things, but when you deal with people with sinister motives, it’s best to remain stoic if possible. I will give you three experiences of mines. I had a study group (turned clique) to where they turned on me overnight. Back then, I had no idea what happened, just that before the lab in the hallway, I was treated horribly and began to cry, and then shortly after, the crap hit the fan,  resulting in me having to drop and them spreading countless lies, it was basically mobbing. On my second try at anatomy, I had a girl I haven’t had a conversation with become hostile and somewhat competitive. She was attempting to humiliate me and bringing two other classmates (one who spread rumors and the other insulted me in passing) into the drama she was trying to create, unlike the first time I ignored her soon before COVID it diffused. Thirdly, during my Microbiology class, I had a girl that I hadn’t talked to try to start tensions, it started by her rolling her eyes, but I didn’t give her a reaction. Still, during one lab, she called me a ***, while inside I was fuming I didn’t react to it but did let my professor know about this, and she shared her wisdom, “ They look for reactions.”  Me ignoring her attempts to get under my skin resulted in her not even wanting to look at me for the remainder of Microbiology. So despite the crappy experiences that I’ve been through, I try not to give in to the drama and stay as strong as possible, which is difficult at times.

Know your worth and keep focused

Know that you are in your prerequisites to build a future for yourself, not partake in drama! You are at the peak of your life and can do many incredible things! Also, keep your focus on whatever classes you may be taking, and do not get sidetracked!

Value your mental health

If you are going through a clique or bullying situation, know that you should not be going into class stressed or pondering whether you should stick around or not.  It’s okay to take time to adjust yourself if needed.  Talked to a trusted and professional counselor if your situation is too much to handle.

Record incidents if possible

This is so crucial if anything were to happen or decided to report. Reporting incidents (ex: names, descriptions, classroom room numbers, times and dates, and description of the events) will help the proper chain of commandment or the system you decide to report by identifying what’s going on.

Alert teachers

In the previous experiences, I had alerted teachers about these incidents. Two were very professional; one addressed the classroom, but both kept a watchful eye on the behavior, making things easier.

Build a support system

The support system can be friends, staff, teachers, or parents. When you are going through tough times, it’s very important not to keep things bottled up because this can backfire.  Know that there are people out there who love you to pieces.

Something that I want to say ...

To the followers

If you see someone getting bullied, report it instead of fueling the fire! There have been many times when someone spoke up and had a backbone that one person wouldn’t have to suffer over the wrath of a bully or a clique!

To the bullies and followers with children

Again, I write this because there have been several bullies and a follower who have had children. One of the worst ones was a male who had a daughter and an expecting parent. Before being nasty and following a crowd with negative motives, be an example of strength and positivity for your children! You wouldn’t like it if this was done to your children, and neither would they.

One more step that I wanted to say that helped me is , don't force healing

If it hurts it hurts , when you try to get over something super quickly that was traumatic I find that it just puts you back a bit while this happened 2/3 years ago I do still "ache" a bit from this but I am at a better place because I allowed myself go through the emotions I was feeling and then found later on down the road healthy outlets to deal with my bullying experience.

I also wanted to thank allnurses too for helping me and giving me advice ❤️ 

References

Academic Mobbing: Hidden Health Hazard at Workplace

Mean girls in Pre-Req / Nursing School, how do you deal with them?

How to Bypass Bullies and Get to Graduation

Specializes in Psychiatric and Mental Health NP (PMHNP).

To Thenursing doll:  I am very sorry you are going through this.  This sounds more like junior high than college.  Are you at a community college?

I was also the victim of some racist bullying, as I am mixed race.  However, I learned to grow a thick skin and gave back as good as I got.  Take your power back.  Who cares if they eye roll?  Ignore them.  

I am really surprised at what you described, as I never experienced anything this intense in college, either at 4-year colleges or community colleges. 

1.  Consider transferring to a different school.  At least in California, there are usually several community colleges in every city.

2.  Consider a different time of day.  Working adults are more likely to take evening and weekend classes.  They are generally older and more mature.  See if you can get into classes during those time periods.

3.  For nursing prereqs, you can also look at 4-year college Extension programs.  These generally have no admission requirements and anyone can enroll.  They are more expensive, but may be worth it for your peace of mind.  The University of California has a great extension program and many classes are online.  Look at UCLA, UCSD, UC Berkeley Extension, as well as other campuses.  You don't have to be a California resident to enroll.

4.  Talk to Academic Advising at your school.  If you can get counseling, do so.  There's no shame in seeking moral support.

5.  Be a leader and form your own group.  I'm sure there are plenty of nice students - band together with them.  In nursing school, my group consisted of very nice young women (I was the oldest) of all different races and ethnicities.  I am still friends with some of them.

6.  Professors often see more than you realize.  Talk to them.  You can ask their advice - they may tell you that certain class sections might be better for you, etc.

7.  Check if there is a student association for your race/ethnicity and talk to them - they may have good advice, introduce you to friends and classmates, etc.

Unfortunately, the RN profession has a reputation for "eating its young" once nurses enter the workforce.  This is very unfortunate, but not every workplace is like this.

I went straight through to become an NP, and I have found my NP colleagues, along with most MDs, to be very collegial and supportive of each other.  Right now I provide mental health services via telehealth, so am blissfully ignorant of any office politics or issues, as I work from home, something I intend to continue doing.

*hugs* and Best Wishes

2 minutes ago, FullGlass said:

To Thenursing doll:  I am very sorry you are going through this.  This sounds more like junior high than college.  Are you at a community college?

I was also the victim of some racist bullying, as I am mixed race.  However, I learned to grow a thick skin and gave back as good as I got.  Take your power back.  Who cares if they eye roll?  Ignore them.  

I am really surprised at what you described, as I never experienced anything this intense in college, either at 4-year colleges or community colleges. 

1.  Consider transferring to a different school.  At least in California, there are usually several community colleges in every city.

2.  Consider a different time of day.  Working adults are more likely to take evening and weekend classes.  They are generally older and more mature.  See if you can get into classes during those time periods.

3.  For nursing prereqs, you can also look at 4-year college Extension programs.  These generally have no admission requirements and anyone can enroll.  They are more expensive, but may be worth it for your peace of mind.  The University of California has a great extension program and many classes are online.  Look at UCLA, UCSD, UC Berkeley Extension, as well as other campuses.  You don't have to be a California resident to enroll.

4.  Talk to Academic Advising at your school.  If you can get counseling, do so.  There's no shame in seeking moral support.

5.  Be a leader and form your own group.  I'm sure there are plenty of nice students - band together with them.  In nursing school, my group consisted of very nice young women (I was the oldest) of all different races and ethnicities.  I am still friends with some of them.

6.  Professors often see more than you realize.  Talk to them.  You can ask their advice - they may tell you that certain class sections might be better for you, etc.

7.  Check if there is a student association for your race/ethnicity and talk to them - they may have good advice, introduce you to friends and classmates, etc.

Unfortunately, the RN profession has a reputation for "eating its young" once nurses enter the workforce.  This is very unfortunate, but not every workplace is like this.

I went straight through to become an NP, and I have found my NP colleagues, along with most MDs, to be very collegial and supportive of each other.  Right now I provide mental health services via telehealth, so am blissfully ignorant of any office politics or issues, as I work from home, something I intend to continue doing.

*hugs* and Best Wishes

Hey ?, I am at community college. I took some of my classes during the evening which helped tremendously. Most of the people whom did it are out or god knows what. reporting and dismantling what the former college administrator tried to do.  You definitely have to start writing articles you give good advice!

I really sympathize with you ladies and I wish I could offer good advice. I'm a pretty big blond white guy and I have only been bullied by my older sister who is really spoilt by my Dad. She also hits really hard. It's no big deal. 

I know this happens with women and I assume it happens to some guys as well. I just physically deal with anyone who tries to bully me regardless of who they are. Some female older nurses have tried in the past but I immediately confront them and draw a line. I can also be really withering and nasty with my retorts, so people pretty much leave me alone. On a couple of occasions Drs didn't take the hint so I compiled evidence initially by writing emails to myself about the incidents, then later on to the supervisors and HR. The point being to compile enough evidence to support any possible outcomes. Then I physically let them know what I was going to do to them if it continued. I'm big enough to be pretty intimidating! 

I know that this isn't a solution for ladies but it's been my experience that the sooner you let a bully know that there are serious consequences screwing around with you, they get the message. Of course you have to be competent and not be a victim because you are lame. Also, assemble a team. Be strategic. If you like where you are, be manipulative enough to disable the bullies. Stop expecting the world to be fair! Focus on your end goal and develop the strategies to reach it. Don't get distracted and stop being a victim. 

I know it's easy for me to say this but I have never been intimidated by anyone in my life purely because of my mindset and not because of my size! Going out on a limb, I imagine that victims are usually people lacking self belief and esteem. Both of those conditions are easily resolved, if you are willing to do the work! 

8 hours ago, Curious1997 said:

I really sympathize with you ladies and I wish I could offer good advice. I'm a pretty big blond white guy and I have only been bullied by my older sister who is really spoilt by my Dad. She also hits really hard. It's no big deal. 

I know this happens with women and I assume it happens to some guys as well. I just physically deal with anyone who tries to bully me regardless of who they are. Some female older nurses have tried in the past but I immediately confront them and draw a line. I can also be really withering and nasty with my retorts, so people pretty much leave me alone. On a couple of occasions Drs didn't take the hint so I compiled evidence initially by writing emails to myself about the incidents, then later on to the supervisors and HR. The point being to compile enough evidence to support any possible outcomes. Then I physically let them know what I was going to do to them if it continued. I'm big enough to be pretty intimidating! 

I know that this isn't a solution for ladies but it's been my experience that the sooner you let a bully know that there are serious consequences screwing around with you, they get the message. Of course you have to be competent and not be a victim because you are lame. Also, assemble a team. Be strategic. If you like where you are, be manipulative enough to disable the bullies. Stop expecting the world to be fair! Focus on your end goal and develop the strategies to reach it. Don't get distracted and stop being a victim. 

I know it's easy for me to say this but I have never been intimidated by anyone in my life purely because of my mindset and not because of my size! Going out on a limb, I imagine that victims are usually people lacking self belief and esteem. Both of those conditions are easily resolved, if you are willing to do the work! 

Hey thanks for the tips ? The thing is yes , you have to be strategic , because most bullies operate on a pattern. In ways bullies lack self-belief and esteem but take it out on others , so while they intend to make others the victims they truly are stuck in their victimhood.

Specializes in Cardiac, Telemetry.

This continues well into the nursing field so please people apply this to your life in general. Health care is FULL of cliques and bullies from coworkers to management. 

3 minutes ago, CardiTeleRN said:

This continues well into the nursing field so please people apply this to your life in general. Health care is FULL of cliques and bullies from coworkers to management. 

I agree , tysm ❤️