My classmates dropping like flies???

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Im an entering level 4 (last semester) student at ECC City in Buffalo, NY, ........an RN program in upstate NY. I actually failed level 3 at the North campus, which is supposed to be the hardest by a mile, there were 30 of us of about 80 at the time

I noticed something about level 4 at my school and at both campuses, and how drastically smaller it is.....Talking to students who graduated at north level 4 went from 105 to around 50, and at city the class went from 75 to around 40.....

Was kind of wondering if other people's programs were similar in this aspect, because I think it seems like there is something up with this program if we start level 1 with 105 and graduate only 50-60 at the north campus and we start with about 75 at city and we only graduate around 40 according to the NYS department of education. ??

Yes, I know what you're talking about with that program, I also failed out of that program. It was so disorganized, and we were always tested on stuff we never learned, and the teachers were so out of sync' with what we learned.

and the way the exams were scheduled were extremely unfair, ...we had 2 exams in 8 days, and our final was 3 days apart from our last exam.

I never thought i'd say this but im now in the Accelerated B.S program at UB and its easier (still hard of course, because nothing nursing related is easy) but its so well organized, and easier.

Nursing school is hard, but that school is much harder than it should be for all of the Wrong Reasons disorganized, and we were always tested on stuff we never learned, and the teachers were so out of sync' with what we learned, and completely off the wall questions that make 0 sense such as : At what age does a human fetus resemble a human? They used to say you need to :apply info" and "think about the question", yes thats very true....no doubt, but how can you apply info that you dont have because you were misguided?

and no rationales for questions: at UB we actually get rationales for our questions

To further answer your question:

My sister began at GCC started with 70 graduated 55, so yea it is your program if your losing more than 50% of people who start.

Once lived in an area where the local nursing program got rid of more than half of its students by graduation consistently each class. This was well known and talked about in the community. However, the program was also known as the best in the state, so this constant 'weeding out' process was seen as a good thing.

Im out in california and im entering my 4th semester last semester of the program. Our program started out with 80 students and we have 60 entering into 4th semester. So we have losted a great amount of students as well.

It may have been considered one of the best in the state due to its NCLEX pass rates? Usually thats what its based on, not necessarily retention.......board scores dont help you if you cant graduate.

It can be a good thing to an extent, however, when you're paying money, and sacrificing your life over the course of 2 yrs, you should get more of a promise that you can be gaurneteed success if you work your ass off and treat the programs like a full time job that it takes to be successful. Its not fair to those hardworking people who give up everything only to be led on and eventually crushed, and then forced like me to find other options.....luckily I found another option in an ABS program, which other's dont have and its a wonderful program

Man I wish I had did more research on these programs, and not just chosen one b/c it was "close to my house and affordable", but sometimes thats all you can go on because its you're only option

80 to 60 is still a lot better than 110 to less than 50, im assuming that the majority were also lost in the lower levels and even the 1st week,....that doesnt sound that bad....but if your program is losing more than half then there is something wrong with the program

That's definately very high, something is wrong there.

All classes start with 80, the graduating class graduated with 28. We are heading into our 3rd semester and started with 80 and am down to 50, the 3rd semester is supposed to be very difficult so I am sure that we will lose more.

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The last class at our sister shop started with 125 and ended with around 40. They've had to make some serious changes with the next class to avoid accreditation issues.

My school starts with 40 and typically graduates about 36 students, so not too bad.

The last class at our sister shop started with 125 and ended with around 40. They've had to make some serious changes with the next class to avoid accreditation issues.

My school starts with 40 and typically graduates about 36 students, so not too bad.

@Stephalump Yeah, thats what the serious issue is right there accrediation, when you lose that many students at my school like that 110- to 50, thats an issue, and accrediation is an issue at my school, they're in jeporady of losing it as they've lost at least 4 full time faculty members in the last year, at one campus and 2 at another,

low retention + no faculty and declining NCLEX pass rates at ECC do not = accrediation

that was my primary concern for posting, plus I do want to see the people around me succeed as well.

I never realized that my school was on the smaller side too. 32 students and 31 usually graduate with a 95% NCLEX first time pass rate. I guess some schools are just nurse factories who are just In it for the buck. Sad.

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I don't know Im in fourth outta five semesters and we've lost about 4 outta 80 students and gained a couple from the class ahead of us so we're still at 80 :)

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