Published Aug 29, 2014
itsmejuli
2,188 Posts
http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/28/opinion/barkley-corinthian-for-profit-colleges/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2014/05/07/gainful-employment-fight-profits-make-familiar-arguments-against-different-landscape
golson
96 Posts
Even though I'm going to attend one of these, I can see that the industry in general is pretty sleazy. There is no way I would be sinking the money into the program I am going for without the GI bill. For those interested, here is the link for the DoE's 2012 metrics referenced in the CNN opinion piece. The information is interesting, but not all that surprising, given the very low admission requirements.
https://studentaid.ed.gov/sites/default/files/GE2011InformationalRates102512_0.XLS
chiandre
237 Posts
Buyer Beware! Before investing in any of these for-profit nursing schools, ask tons of questions!!
I'd even take it a step farther and independently verify accreditation with the accreditation authority, number of students who stood for the NCLEX (to make sure half of the class doesn't fail out), and the NCLEX pass rates.
TheCommuter, BSN, RN
102 Articles; 27,612 Posts
A for-profit nursing school closed suspiciously:
Last month, Anamarc first told students that summer vacation was beginning early, then told its accrediting agency that it would be closing down entirely.The school then had to come up with a plan to let its students continue their education, refund their tuition, or face loss of accreditation and possible debarrment from ever operating a school again.Nearly 600 students were left with no college credit and given no warning when the school closed.
The school then had to come up with a plan to let its students continue their education, refund their tuition, or face loss of accreditation and possible debarrment from ever operating a school again.Nearly 600 students were left with no college credit and given no warning when the school closed.
At the college's central campus off of Dyer Street, students cried and hugged each other.They told KFOX14 they've all paid around $30,000 to get their nursing degrees; now they're wondering where their money went."Where is my money? Where is my money going?" asked Rivers.In a statement Monday, the owner of the school, Ana Maria Houde, told KFOX14 the school is facing "temporary cash flow issues." Anamarc College is a two year school that offers associates degrees and specializes in vocational nursing certificates, as well as a registered nurse bachelor program.
They told KFOX14 they've all paid around $30,000 to get their nursing degrees; now they're wondering where their money went.
"Where is my money? Where is my money going?" asked Rivers.
In a statement Monday, the owner of the school, Ana Maria Houde, told KFOX14 the school is facing "temporary cash flow issues." Anamarc College is a two year school that offers associates degrees and specializes in vocational nursing certificates, as well as a registered nurse bachelor program.
FBI searches Anamarc College, home of college's owners | News - Home
School’s out for summer, and it looks like out forever at Anamarc College. Students were told yesterday that classes were cancelled and they were told to leave the campus. Teachers say they got letters of termination. So what is going to happen to Anamarc’s students and the money they’ve spent on their education? Good questions, and now we know the answers.
pookyp, LPN
1,074 Posts
A for-profit nursing school closed suspiciously:FBI searches Anamarc College, home of college's owners | News - Home
That sucks man. Smh
LadyFree28, BSN, LPN, RN
8,429 Posts
Even though I'm going to attend one of these, I can see that the industry in general is pretty sleazy. There is no way I would be sinking the money into the program I am going for without the GI bill. For those interested, here is the link for the DoE's 2012 metrics referenced in the CNN opinion piece. The information is interesting, but not all that surprising, given the very low admission requirements.https://studentaid.ed.gov/sites/default/files/GE2011InformationalRates102512_0.XLS
Hope the school doesn't fold while your attending there...or better yet, hope you end up as one who is able to complete and find a job, which is pretty far fetched, given the okey-some they have given many servicemen.
Me think you should pick a FAR better way in investing the GI bill..,community college perhaps?
elkpark
14,633 Posts
So you wouldn't spend your own money on the school you're planning to attend, but you don't mind giving away our (taxpayer) money to a "sleazy" industry that profits by preying on people who don't know enough to go to a good school? Thanks a lot ...
llg, PhD, RN
13,469 Posts
My sentiments exactly. If the school is not good enough to spend YOUR money, please don't spend MY money on it.
I have no objections to helping veterans go to school ... but I do ask that my money be spent sensibly.
What I'm saying is that I wouldn't get that far in debt no matter what. Even some of the public schools here would be like taking out a mortgage. A CC wouldn't be as bad, but its still pretty damn steep at around $20k for degree completion. I really don't like being in debt. For example, after I got out of the army, I got a job as a defense contractor in Afghanistan so I could pay down my house. The work was 12 hours a day (usually more, but I was only paid for 12), 7 days a week for 17 months.
Also, I said the industry was sleazy, not necessarily the school I'm going to. I'm still uncomfortable with the used car salesman vibe I get from the staff there, but I did make sure they are accredited (CCNE and HLC, the regional accreditation authority here), graduate most of their class, and most of their students pass the NCLEX. I even called some local hospitals' HR departments to make sure they hired graduates of that school.
All that said, I may still transfer to a CC part way through the program. The problem is that I was a terrible student in HS and did two semesters part time at a CC shortly thereafter where I promptly tanked out. I also got some credit from a CC while I was in the army for military training I received, but they just arbitrarily awarded C's for credits awarded. I couldn't raise my GPA high enough during pre-reqs to get accepted at most nursing programs. Its not that I'm dumb. I just got a 31 on the ACT last September and scored 85% on my TEAS V a few months ago. The problem is that 19 year old me was a train wreck and 30 year old me is still paying for it. I'd have to get straight A's for more than 30 semester hours to raise my GPA to the minimum requited to apply to the local CC's nursing program. Unless there is a way to get my old classes thrown out, this for-profit is the only option I have at this point.
I mean, if anybody has any other suggestions on options available to me, I'm all ears.
Found an ADN program that only uses program pre-reqs for your GPA calculation when applying at a local CC. I think I'll start that next semester.
Before you start classes make sure they will transfer towards a CC degree and ultimately towards any future plans such as BSN, masters etc