Moochers who want to copy your homework or cheat off you......

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what do you do with moochers? ;)

Specializes in pulm/cardiology pcu, surgical onc.
Medications? Really? Not even one medication, but plural medications? Maybe the oddest recommendation I've ever seen (just my opinion you understand).

Learning communication skills is part of nursing school. Not sure what lead you down the medication path....what medical condition do you feel that "snarky communication style" is part of the differential diagnosis for? Whatever it is, the majority of the NY Metro area must need to be diagnosed. :D

This sounds to me like a communication style issue (different geographical areas of the US have very different social expectations of communication style).....not sure why anyone would want to medicate for this or what medication would be appropriate?

The OP had a thread in the past about having ADD, anxiety, and depression and not taking medications at this time but has in the past... possibly the cause for aggressive behavior?

I myself am snarky when appropriate.

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The OP had a thread in the past about having ADD, anxiety, and depression and not taking medications at this time but has in the past... possibly the cause for aggressive behavior?

I myself am snarky when appropriate.

Well, that's a bit better than just basing it on the post quoted.

Truthfully though, I'm ADHD (and a NY'er) as well. It really sounds more like a communication style issue. Meds didn't teach me how to change my communication style....practice did :)

Aggressive sounds much more NY than ADHD. I've been really surprised when non-NY friends of mine tell me later how aggressive they found an observed conversation between me and a NY friend; when I just found it to be a refreshingly blunt conversation. Just a style issue :)

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Specializes in pulm/cardiology pcu, surgical onc.
Well, that's a bit better than just basing it on the post quoted.

Truthfully though, I'm ADHD (and a NY'er) as well. It really sounds more like a communication style issue. Meds didn't teach me how to change my communication style....practice did :)

Aggressive sounds much more NY than ADHD. I've been really surprised when non-NY friends of mine tell me later how aggressive they found an observed conversation between me and a NY friend; when I just found it to be a refreshingly blunt conversation. Just a style issue :)

I do work with a NY nurse (pacific NW here) and some have said they can't stand her but we get along great. Not aggressive but blunt and to the point and she WILL tell you what is exactly on her mind (not everyone likes that I guess).

I know in my school experience we learned 'communication techniques' but only work/life experience and the school of hard knocks has taught me how to deal with rough customers and people.

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Specializes in mental health.

People who cut ethical corners in class are the same ones who cut safety corners at work. If they aren't weeded out in school, one of them will kill your grandma. Yes, they will kill her DEAD DEAD DEAD!

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This story was interesting and (disturbingly) funny. Thanks for posting it!

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I don't want to go to war with you but I have to be honest, your post sounds like you are blaming others for your inability to draw good boundaries/guilty feelings for doing so. If its really that hard for you to draw boundaries, then please consider working on that for yourself.

You and your friends sound like an exclusive group. Remember that that won't work in the real world and it can come across looking snotty. If you and your friends want to review the test answers or the homework then a public place may not be the place to do it since it appears that your colleagues are under the impression that this discussion, taking place in a public area, is open to all potential participants. This strikes me as a reasonable conclusion given the circumstances. (In other words, be a little more low-key.)

I think many of us have been in the same shoes that you are in now. We have done well in a course or throughout the program, only to find some people showering us with attention in order to receive help with their homework. I don't think the people who do this are stupid. I actually think they demonstrate another type of intelligence that we tend to undervalue in academic settings: the so-called street smarts. (Exception: cheating on tests is never acceptable.) They are strategic thinkers, survivors and they invest in whatever option makes the most sense at the time. Stop helping them and they will be forced to find another option or hopefully, study. Its really up to you to become more confident saying no to these folks.

If it helps, I do some of the things that people here have suggested. I say that we can compare if both of us is finished. I say that I don't want to be accused of cheating on the assignment if our answers are too similar and I say we can talk about that later or why don't you call me or whatever so we can talk about it. (They either don't or I don't pick up.)

Remember that there may also come a time when you would like to review someone's assignment for a variety of reasons. For example, you may wish to see someone's APA formatting while you are working on your paper or you may wish to see a study guide that someone else wrote because you fear you have left something out. Tread carefully. You are doing well right now but that can turn around for you and you may need these folks. Also, they will be in the workplace whether you want them to be or not.

Sorry, I meant to quote this story...

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I feel moochers is too nice of a word. I like to call them CHEATERS. I have had an experience with one that really takes the cake.

In my clinical group there was 7 of us ladies and 1 male student, who I NEVER liked from the beginning. He just had a really fake-nice attitude and was cheesy and sounded just plain weird. He'd say 'Oh I really like your sweater miss.." He would just sound too polite and after awhile it got on my nerves.

ANYWHO. He'd be really sneaky. Slip into class late and the teacher didn't notice so he didn't give one of his late passes. He would take a hall pass and leave early. He would 'mooch' off of 2 of the ladies in the group who didn't quite see what he was trying to do. Copy their homework, classwork, probably off of tests and quizzes too.

My first encounter with him was in med-surg clinical. I am very rusty when it comes to changing an occupied bed/giving a bed bath so my instructor had him help me since the student who is very skilled in that area was busy. So instead of helping me, he just stood at the bedside and barely helped.

My second encounter with him was in peds, when we had a patient who was in a coma. We were partnered to care for this patient. The patient was pretty heavy for me to wash and change by myself so I really required help from someone who knows what they are doing. He again stood there at the bedside barely any help at all. Didn't help with our assessment or nursing diagnosis/interventions or practice nursing notes that we had to hand in. I spent my lunch doing all of that so I wouldnt have him hanging over my shoulder copying off of me. That afternoon our instructor was in the patients room with us and she knew he was bullshitting his way through, so she told him to do the tube feed that she asked us to read up on the night before. He placed the stethoscope on the patients chest! Well I did my reading and I knew at least you put the stethoscope near the abdomen. I needed the instructor to walk me through it because that's how I learn, but she knew I at least read.

My last and final encounter with him was in geriatrics. The clinical instructor asked us to get a partner and nobody in the group wanted to work with him so I was stuck. I informed her privately of my past experience working with him and she was unable to change my partner so I took a deep breath and figured it was only 4 days its not forever. He was his usual lazy self, I ended up doing an assessment and after the first day. It basically was my assessment because he got the hint that I wasn't going to help him slide by.

In the last week of class, we had a theory instructor who didn't like him very much. She saw he was lazy, she saw him constantly coming in late and "mooching." She caught him on his cell phone which if you were caught with a phone you were sent home for the day. She sent him home and he was arguing with her. Nobody was on his side with this. He didn't come back after that. I can't say I was disappointed that he didn't come back. But as a new nurse, I really fear for the patients he would have taken care of because he barely did any work. Have no idea how he even made it to the last couple days of school.

Sorry this was so long but he was the first person to come to mind when I read this.

It has been such a long finals week. No, THIS STORY. I'm done. Sorry.

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NOW is really the time to learn assertiveness and keep your mouth shut instead of talking down and demeaning people. If you can't handle this friction in nursing school you will be in for one heck of a surprise in the real nursing 'world'. Have you ever considered medications to help control yourself.... Yep just my opinion.

:down:Very ignorant and typical. People struggle with all kinds of emotions. It's human nature. Controlling yourself doesn't mean changing your personality by drugging yourself up. Please, give an EDUCATED answer next time. Seriously, what were you thinking?:uhoh3:...were you thinking?

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Medications? Really? Not even one medication, but plural medications? Maybe the oddest recommendation I've ever seen (just my opinion you understand).

Learning communication skills is part of nursing school. Not sure what lead you down the medication path....what medical condition do you feel that "snarky communication style" is part of the differential diagnosis for? Whatever it is, the majority of the NY Metro area must need to be diagnosed. :D

This sounds to me like a communication style issue (different geographical areas of the US have very different social expectations of communication style).....not sure why anyone would want to medicate for this or what medication would be appropriate?

I was thinking the same thing.

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Specializes in student; help!.

At the risk of repeating what someone else said (just hit the second page of the thread): "No," is a complete sentence. No need to elaborate. "No."

And it works for more people than fellow students. Try it on kids!

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Specializes in Army Medic.

It's really dependent on the situation.

If some one has a valid excuse for why they missed class, and are an active part of the team then they deserve slack.

If you are the best student in your class, you automatically become a role model. When I was training in my medical classes in the Army I was always ahead of the game - and as a result I had about 8 soldiers who would look to me for guidance. As long as I saw they were trying I didn't mind in the least.

Copying off tests? Flat out no.

Helping with class work? Drop your ego and be a team player, it will serve you much better in the long run. If some one is genuinely trying, cut em' a break.

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It's really dependent on the situation.

If some one has a valid excuse for why they missed class, and are an active part of the team then they deserve slack.

If you are the best student in your class, you automatically become a role model. When I was training in my medical classes in the Army I was always ahead of the game - and as a result I had about 8 soldiers who would look to me for guidance. As long as I saw they were trying I didn't mind in the least.

Copying off tests? Flat out no.

Helping with class work? Drop your ego and be a team player, it will serve you much better in the long run. If some one is genuinely trying, cut em' a break.

Well yeah, but there's a difference between helping out some fellow students who are working hard, but just might not be getting the material as quick as you and becoming the "shell answer man" whose responsibility it is to provide answers to anyone who asks.

Anyone who is consistently pushing for answers and then getting annoyed if they're not provided, isn't in the first category. Additionally, as I said earlier, it's rare that just giving someone answers is actually helpful to them in their learning.

No, is a complete sentence. If folks don't accept that, well disappointment build's character, they'll get over it.

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