Moochers who want to copy your homework or cheat off you......

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what do you do with moochers? ;)

I don't believe for two seconds, half of the posters that say this situation wouldn't be a problem for them and that they would have no problems just saying no. Yeah, right. :icon_roll

I don't believe for two seconds, half of the posters that say this situation wouldn't be a problem for them and that they would have no problems just saying no. Yeah, right. :icon_roll

MY MAIN POINT. That's all I'm trying to say! LOL. THANK GOD SOMEONE ELSE NOTICED THIS.

It's stuff like this that makes me roll my eyes. I've known people from ALL over and have YET

to see one just say NO. Not saying it doesn't happen..but I don't think some posters are as

hardcore as I would like to believe. Don't shoot me! It's just MY "opinion" lol. Seriously, it's

all in good nature. But I would be lying if I said I believe everyone. A few...yep...most..nope.

I agree with this! But do you actually tell this to them ver batum? I'm just curious. I see a lot of people giving hard-ball answers on here (and I LIKE those answers), but I go to college with some ROUGH people and not even THEY say things in the manner some are suggesting. So it makes me really wondering if it's more thumping of the chest sort of. Don't get me wrong..I LIKE THE REPLIES! lol

I have said in the past that I was happy to help them think through their answer, but I'm not comfortable giving them an answer. I'm not going to tell them, "I'll only help you if you work." That would be rude, unnecessary and condescending.

If I was studying with someone and the other person was completely unprepared, I've made comments like, come-on now, need some answers from your side of the table too....or what chapter have you been working on, maybe we can switch gears and work on that....or even, jokingly stating that, I'll have to start charging tutoring fees and then ending the study session, saying maybe this would be better when we're both on the same page.

Truthfully, this has only happened to me once or twice. If someone who struggles with preparation asks to study with me, I'm pretty up front that I'd love to if they feel they'll be ready to discuss the material by that date. If not, I'm happy to tutor them for $X/hr (and even when I tutor, I don't give answers away...but walk them through their questions, so they know how to accomplish it themselves).

What I would be absolutely upfront and direct about would be someone trying to get answers for anything that will be turned in (test, HW, whatever). No, is the answer. If they're nice about it, "No, I'm not comfortable sharing my answer...but where are you stuck?" If they're pushy about it, just a smile and No. I answer homework requests the same way here on AllNurses...although I typically only answer the first kind of question....I just ignore the second.

Oh and I'm 40 yrs old....I'm far to old to bother with chest thumping (sounds painful!), and far to old to care if someone who wanted to cheat from me is annoyed that I wouldn't let them. Life's way to short for that silliness.

Specializes in ER.
MY MAIN POINT. That's all I'm trying to say! LOL. THANK GOD SOMEONE ELSE NOTICED THIS.

It's stuff like this that makes me roll my eyes. I've known people from ALL over and have YET

to see one just say NO. Not saying it doesn't happen..but I don't think some posters are as

hardcore as I would like to believe. Don't shoot me! It's just MY "opinion" lol. Seriously, it's

all in good nature. But I would be lying if I said I believe everyone. A few...yep...most..nope.

Edited to add: Agree with CuriousME. The older I get, the better I get at saying no and not really caring.

I am definitely going to stick with my main point. Its about how you feel when you say whatever it is you say. Do you feel guilty? then work on that.

JUST CURIOUS: Why ask if you don't believe what internet posters say? 'Cause I can assure you that I believe most of these people. After all, they have been forthright about not agreeing with you so they do have a history of being direct. More, I think its actually a common quality to nurses. A skill that you develop over time.

LOL! I like that CuriousMe. You seem to get it. Certain ways can be condescending. Yes, I shouldn't care what others think of me. And I don't, TO A POINT. But I also don't want to talk down to them.

I think your approach is perfect. Firm, direct, and not confrontational, so much. :D

i just read on reddit about a guy knowing someone was cheating off him during a "bubble sheet" test. he filled in all the wrong answers (and thus so did she). she turned in her test, and he went back and corrected his answers. she failed & he didn't. passive-aggressive, i know...

i didn't read through all the replies on this thread (so maybe someone has already said something like this), but how about something nonconfrontational (since you are worried about friction)...like saying sort of lightly, incredulously, "what, again?!! really?! are you serious? nah, you can't be serious!!" and then just turning away. it's kind of patronizing, and passive-aggressive...& probably ineffectual.

(as for me, i would just say sorry, but no. i would be too peeved not to say no, after working so hard myself. i can't stand it when people try to weasel out of things! and i can't help but think, what kind of nurses will they become?)

let us know how it goes! the week is young.

p.s. i turn 40 next year...& "no" has now joined my vocabulary. it was pretty much absent in my 20's.

p.p.s. if ya can't say no, how about h-e-double-hockey-sticks no?;)

I am from New York and yes, I have been described as very blunt with people. I have no problem flat out saying, "No. Sorry but no." and leaving it there.

Its also something that the more experience you get doing it, the easier it becomes. Its not chest-thumping. Its the truth.

Ha! I'm a NY'er as well :) Maybe saying no is a NY thing (kinda like not taking a flier from every person handing them out on the street, I always wonder how much paper tourists end up with at the end of a day walking through the city ).

I am definitely going to stick with my main point. Its about how you feel when you say whatever it is you say. Do you feel guilty? then work on that.

JUST CURIOUS: Why ask if you don't believe what internet posters say? 'Cause I can assure you that I believe most of these people. After all, they have been forthright about not agreeing with you so they do have a history of being direct. More, I think its actually a common quality to nurses. A skill that you develop over time.

Do you ask questions and expect 100% honesty everytime? I hope for it..but I don't expect it. Human nature I suppose. Like I said, it's just my opinion. I don't personally believe all of them. I *DO* believe that you are one of the few that would say no-flat out..and NOT care. (It's in the way of your words..lol seriously.). Certain people...sorry...I can just tell they are BSing, or full of it. But I don't attack them. I let them have their say.It's no biggie. I don't need to tell them I think they are full of it. Everyone is allowed to have their own opinion.

Honestly...I just like to see what other people do in certain situations. Even if it's not the way I would handle it. I have a tendency to be extreme, so who better to ask than some nurses? I'm going to be in the nursing "world". Do I expect that all of these nurses or students will answer honestly, etc? ...nope..but I sure can increase my odds, of what I consider a constructive answer, when I target a specific group of people.

Thanks, been there done that. I thought ATL was boring personally. I've also been to Detroit,

Cleveland, East St. Louis, Compton,Chicago, etc. In MY personal opinion, East St. Louis was far more "special" ;).

I've got family all over. Guess I've been lucky to visit those special places! lol

Sorry I can't reply to your PM, inbox, don't have enough posts yet. I did want to tell you - I went to CUNY at Queens College. Yea Flushing! :D

Specializes in ER.
Ha! I'm a NY'er as well :) Maybe saying no is a NY thing (kinda like not taking a flier from every person handing them out on the street, I always wonder how much paper tourists end up with at the end of a day walking through the city ).

I just literally laughed out loud. I have one rule though: I have to look them in the eye. I refuse to say no to my feet. They are human beings and they want to be looked in the eyes. I came to a place where I firmly believe that they actually deserve to be looked in the face and told no rather than ignored.

Poor tourists.:heartbeat

i just read on reddit about a guy knowing someone was cheating off him during a "bubble sheet" test. he filled in all the wrong answers (and thus so did she). she turned in her test, and he went back and corrected his answers. she failed & he didn't. passive-aggressive, i know...

i didn't read through all the replies on this thread (so maybe someone has already said this), but how about something nonconfrontational (since you are worried about friction)...like saying sort of lightly, incredulously, "what, again?!! really?! are you serious? nah, you can't be serious!!" and then just turning away. it's kind of patronizing, and passive-aggressive...but maybe it will work...

(as for me, i would just say sorry, but no. i would be too peeved not to say no, after working so hard myself. i can't stand it when people try to weasel out of things!)

let us know how it goes! the week is young.

I LIKE THIS! That is soooo funny!

Sorry I can't reply to your PM, inbox, don't have enough posts yet. I did want to tell you - I went to CUNY at Queens College. Yea Flushing! :D

What a small world! How neat!

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