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by Bravo-rn47 Bravo-rn47 (New Member) New Member Nurse

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Advice please! All the info on here so far looks like it’s from 9 yrs ago.  

I Self reported to my work and then to HPRP for norco. Went into Rehab for a week. Resigned my position due to home care, I was told from my company I am leaving in good standing and they would re hire in another capacity. Initial intake with HPRP completed. HPRP evaluation completed.... told to wait 3 weeks for my results or monitoring program.  I was told BON would not be notified if I was 100% compliant, and that I can look for a job and they would not know (?) as long as I was compliant... however that looks like it’s not true because you need a work site monitor. I am applying to mental health RN positions hoping that they would be more understanding and that I won’t be passing narcotics, to avoid having all my new co workers know I am being monitored.

The evaluator stated she would recommend I can work ASAP, that midnight shifts will not be a problem, and that many people to get hired when employers know you are in the program because you are being drug screened often.

Should I get a lawyer before signing anything ? What should I expect? Are they full of *** with these promises?  How long are we looking here.. I know Michigan has a 3 yr max monitor program??

I had 18 yrs of excellence on my job... I admitted to taking norco 15 tablets from 1 patient over the last year and have had 2 Vivitrol injections to to prove non addiction issues.

thanks in advance!!!

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Wow... I just reviewed allnurses.com on the web and it looks like the website is deemed inappropriate ?

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16 hours ago, Bravo-rn47 said:

The evaluator stated she would recommend I can work ASAP, that midnight shifts will not be a problem, and that many people to get hired when employers know you are in the program because you are being drug screened often.

Should I get a lawyer before signing anything ? What should I expect? Are they full of *** with these promises?  How long are we looking here.. I know Michigan has a 3 yr max monitor program??

I had 18 yrs of excellence on my job... I admitted to taking norco 15 tablets from 1 patient over the last year and have had 2 Vivitrol injections to to prove non addiction issues.

thanks in advance!!!

Not familiar with MI program.  However, in some, night shifts are not acceptable, so I am glad you were able to do that.

As for an attorney, it NEVER hurts to get a consultation and make sure you are not signing something you do not understand.  I am not sure if they can lessen any of the stips you may receive, but, if you can afford one, I would.

The contract should lay out exact time frames for you and give you an idea of how many drug screens, meetings, etc you will be required to do.

Congrats on your continued sobriety and welcome to the forum.  We are all in the same boat, and we will offer support where we can.

As for the "deemed not appropriate" -- not sure what that means.

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On 8/28/2019 at 2:11 PM, Bravo-rn47 said:

Advice please! All the info on here so far looks like it’s from 9 yrs ago.  

I Self reported to my work and then to HPRP for norco. Went into Rehab for a week. Resigned my position due to home care, I was told from my company I am leaving in good standing and they would re hire in another capacity. Initial intake with HPRP completed. HPRP evaluation completed.... told to wait 3 weeks for my results or monitoring program.  I was told BON would not be notified if I was 100% compliant, and that I can look for a job and they would not know (?) as long as I was compliant... however that looks like it’s not true because you need a work site monitor. I am applying to mental health RN positions hoping that they would be more understanding and that I won’t be passing narcotics, to avoid having all my new co workers know I am being monitored.

The evaluator stated she would recommend I can work ASAP, that midnight shifts will not be a problem, and that many people to get hired when employers know you are in the program because you are being drug screened often.

Should I get a lawyer before signing anything ? What should I expect? Are they full of *** with these promises?  How long are we looking here.. I know Michigan has a 3 yr max monitor program??

I had 18 yrs of excellence on my job... I admitted to taking norco 15 tablets from 1 patient over the last year and have had 2 Vivitrol injections to to prove non addiction issues.

thanks in advance!!!

Can I ask why you would self report and go through this whole process of monitoring as oppose to taking time off from work (FMLA or just quitting) and going to rehab privately where no one would ever know?

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Hi random. In Mississippi the treatment centers are required to report you to the board.  I went through this same thing / did not want to report while I was in rehab and was told “if you don’t, we have to”. I got mad and left treatment but I did self report the next day before they had a chance to report me first.   This whole system sucks! For us nurses, nothing is private 

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Randomnurse3

so stupid of me.... that is exactly what I should have done but I trusted all their sermons on helping nurses who may have a problem... DUMB! 

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3 hours ago, mississippiRN71 said:

Hi random. In Mississippi the treatment centers are required to report you to the board.  I went through this same thing / did not want to report while I was in rehab and was told “if you don’t, we have to”. I got mad and left treatment but I did self report the next day before they had a chance to report me first.   This whole system sucks! For us nurses, nothing is private 

You don’t have to disclose to any treatment center or rehab center that you are a nurse. To them you are any random person seeking treatment until you voluntarily disclose that you are a nurse. Its for your own protection and sanity. It’s sad that nurses feel like they have to disclose every aspect of their life when seeking treatment. 

3 hours ago, Bravo-rn47 said:

Randomnurse3

so stupid of me.... that is exactly what I should have done but I trusted all their sermons on helping nurses who may have a problem... DUMB! 

I learned a long time ago... Trust no one but yourself with certain information! 

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Yo, Im sure by now you went through the process. I am new to HPRP and have been in it for about 3 or 4 months now. From what Ive seen everyone gets 3 years unless your just mental health then it is 2 years. Everyone has to go to 3 meetings a week plus a group therapy session weekly, so thats 4 things in one week. Everyone has a quarterly addictionist appointment and a monthly therapist appointment. Not everyone gets a narc restriction but being that you took it from a pt they will give you a narc restriction which you can get rid of after 6 months of working. 

They are flexible with your hours you just have to ask for your contract to be changed.

Mental health places gave me a hard time and didnt want to hire HPRP. Your best bet is to work where you were if you can somehow do that without passing meds or get a job in dialysis for a while. 

Someone I know was at a party and got a DUI. They dont have a drinking problem and never admitted to having a drinking problem. The DUI had nothing to do with work and they got everything I mentioned above. Everyone gets the same thing.

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Dont waste your money on a lawyer. MI BON doesnt care. Since you already reported yourself and HPRP knows you will have to do it and lawyers wont help change the whole program.

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