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No! NO! NO! The NCLEX has nothing to do with Canada in any way. No nursing jurisdiction in Canada cares if you've passed the NCLEX once or a hundred times. To work as an RN in Canada, you have to pass the CRNE. The individuals in Alberta who are currently working as LPNs have been given the opprotunity to do so as a stopgap because their BScN from the Philippines is not equivalent to a BScN in Alberta, it's only equivalent to an LPN diploma and they had already been offered employment when this was discovered. Since LPN stands for LICENSED Practical Nurse, these people have had to pass the Canadian Registered Practical Nurse Exam to be able to work as LPNs, and they are expected to upgrade their education at their own expense to that of a Canadian-educated RN if they want to stay in Canada and work as an RN... after they pass the CRNE.

I am a registered nurse from the Philippines. I am applying in NY as an RN. My credentials was verified by CGFNS and got my CGFNS certification and Visa Screen so this means that my nursing education is equivalent to US nursing education. If Philippines nursing education is equivalent to an LPN in canada does it mean that USRN is only equivalent to Canadian's LPN. Do they also have to undergo SEC assesment if they want to apply. Is Canada's nursing education have the highest standard than any 1st world countries have. Just asking:confused:

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I am a registered nurse from the Philippines. I am applying in NY as an RN. My credentials was verified by CGFNS and got my CGFNS certification and Visa Screen so this means that my nursing education is equivalent to US nursing education. If Philippines nursing education is equivalent to an LPN in canada does it mean that USRN is only equivalent to Canadian's LPN. Do they also have to undergo SEC assesment if they want to apply. Is Canada's nursing education have the highest standard than any 1st world countries have. Just asking:confused:

I think they have "different" standards and by different i mean one is not beter than the other...CGFNS follows the US system of nursing education while Canada follows its own..Dont worry about SEC, it's just a few days of lecture and exams as far as know. The bridging courses required by australia, new zealnd and UK are way longer

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I think they have "different" standards and by different i mean one is not beter than the other...CGFNS follows the US system of nursing education while Canada follows its own..Dont worry about SEC, it's just a few days of lecture and exams as far as know. The bridging courses required by australia, new zealnd and UK are way longer

@rafaeltoney, so which country has a better nursing education? I was refering to the thread of janfrn that philippine nursing education is only equivalent to an LPN education in Canada. I don't think so, because a lot of filipino nurses are working in the states as an RN and their credentials was verified by CGFNS which means their education is equivalent to USRN. So which is which...:confused:

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@rafaeltoney, so which country has a better nursing education? I was refering to the thread of janfrn that philippine nursing education is only equivalent to an LPN education in Canada. I don't think so, because a lot of filipino nurses are working in the states as an RN and their credentials was verified by CGFNS which means their education is equivalent to USRN. So which is which...:confused:

It all goes on what transcripts have been assessed on by the province, each state, province and country will make their own assessment and this is what happened with some nurses from the Philippines, when their transcripts was assessed it was felt that the training was equivalent to LPN and not RN

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Specializes in NICU, PICU, PCVICU and peds oncology.

Let me just clarify something here. I did not say that "Philippine nursing education" is only equivalent to LPN education in Canada. I said that those nurses who had been recruited to work in Alberta in 2008 had received education that did not meet Canadian educational standards. This was based on their inability to meet minimum competencies set out for Canadian BScN graduates. Certain assumptions were made by the recruiters that a BScN degree was roughly equivalent around the globe. It is not, of course. When their deficiencies were identified they were offered the opportunity to work as LPNs as an interim measure while they upgraded their education to Canadian standards so that they had a source of income and Alberta had some desperately needed help at the front line. It was a one-time situation and the assessment and evaluation of all IENS were made more stringent after that. By the way, there are a number of these nurses who, despite all the time and assistance in the world, have still not succeeded at either clinical competence or the CRNE and are therefore no longer eligible for registration in Canada.

Most provinces now require BScN degrees for entry to practice. This means that ADN and diploma nurses from the US will not meet requirements without additional education. The Filipino nurses chokyali mentions will have been educated some years ago, since the US has had retrogression in place for Filipino applicants for a long time. And as I and many others have said repeatedly, every application is examined and assessed individually, regardless of what country the applicant is from. If a person's education meets Canadian standards they will be given permission to write the CRNE and if it doesn't they won't. Pretty simple. SEC is reserved for those applicants whose documentation does not provide an adequate breakdown of the content of their education and the College of Registered Nurses is then unable to determine its equivalency to Canadian basic nursing education. It's VERY unlikely that documentation provided by a nursing education program in the US would be inadequately detailed and therefore VERY unlikely that a US-educated applicant would have to undergo SEC provided they met all other requirements (that is, BScN education).

Chokyali, if you've been given a green light to go to NY, then go there. What difference does it make what Canada does?

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It all goes on what transcripts have been assessed on by the province, each state, province and country will make their own assessment and this is what happened with some nurses from the Philippines, when their transcripts was assessed it was felt that the training was equivalent to LPN and not RN

I won't agree, maybe some but not all because a lot of nursing schools have mushroomed in the philippines for the past years. I know some schools that offer 2 years nursing courses for some degree holders aspiring to be a nurse. I myself is a second courser but I took up nursing for 4 years.

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Plus to add, in the US it is determined if your education meets the requirement for US trained RN's what can be an ADN= 2 years course, it doesn't say if your bachelor is equivalent to the US one.

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Plus to add, in the US it is determined if your education meets the requirement for US trained RN's what can be an ADN= 2 years course, it doesn't say if your bachelor is equivalent to the US one.

5cats

But how come I got my CGFNS and visascreen certificate if my education is not equivalent to USRN

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But how come I got my CGFNS and visascreen certificate if my education is not equivalent to USRN

Because the US Standard to take the NCLEX is the ADN or diploma, Canada requires a BScN for entry level, not all US RN are allowed to practice in Canada.

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But how come I got my CGFNS and visascreen certificate if my education is not equivalent to USRN

Just go to the US. Did you read any of Jan's post?

Canadian Nursing Colleges exams every applicant's credentials with a fine tooth comb after the 2008 debacle. It will be a long time before there is another mass recruitment overseas.

It probably would have been more cost effective to have Alberta LPNs go back to school to upgrade but like Jan said bodies were needed on the floors and valuable LPNs couldn't be spared. The skills of the IENs just weren't up to their resumes and educations.

Now read the replies and if you think you can make it here apply to the appropriate provincial College. But don't expect to find a job easily. Several provinces have hiring freezes with Canadian new grads having a hard time finding that crucial first job.

Canada is an independent country, just like Australia, NZ, etc. We don't have to accept the US exams and qualifications. You have to start understanding that US credentials don't make you a hot property.

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Just go to the US. Did you read any of Jan's post?

Canadian Nursing Colleges exams every applicant's credentials with a fine tooth comb after the 2008 debacle. It will be a long time before there is another mass recruitment overseas.

It probably would have been more cost effective to have Alberta LPNs go back to school to upgrade but like Jan said bodies were needed on the floors and valuable LPNs couldn't be spared. The skills of the IENs just weren't up to their resumes and educations.

Now read the replies and if you think you can make it here apply to the appropriate provincial College. But don't expect to find a job easily. Several provinces have hiring freezes with Canadian new grads having a hard time finding that crucial first job.

Canada is an independent country, just like Australia, NZ, etc. We don't have to accept the US exams and qualifications. You have to start understanding that US credentials don't make you a hot property.

OK, Canada has the highest standard of nursig around the globe:yeah::yeah::yeah: hurray

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I won't agree, maybe some but not all because a lot of nursing schools have mushroomed in the philippines for the past years. I know some schools that offer 2 years nursing courses for some degree holders aspiring to be a nurse. I myself is a second courser but I took up nursing for 4 years.

You are welcome to disagree however the college will examine your transcripts and determine whether you meet their requirements or not. It isn't just Philippine nurses that are having problems. UK training now is more specialised and UK nurses who wish to move to Canada are also having to either complete further courses or do a SEC it just isn't for Philippine nurses.

As mentioned the US is different to Canada and each country will make their own assessment just because you went through CGFNS has no impact on Canada.

Just to let you know I have many years experience in the UK, meet 2 state requirements and passed NCLEX and issued licenses but I still need to do a couple of courses for the province I live in here in Canada before they will allow me eligibility to sit CRNE

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