Meely-Mouthed Recruiters

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I can't tell you all how many recruiters, when they call and I talk to them and they realize I'm not what they are looking for, will start hemming and hawing and lying rather than being forthcoming and honest and I'm so sick of it. "Let me have my associate call you right back in a few minutes," or "we'll be in touch later today or in the morning," or some other such nonsense.

I exchanged emails and calls with the last one for about a week. Wrote a new resume, they kept saying their client was "excited" to talk to me. I was about to start the process of obtaining a New Mexico license (yes, I was willing to relocate from Tennessee to New Mexico, and he told me to go ahead and start the process to show their client I was serious.)

This was the last time I heard from him. I emailed him to ask if they were still interested and he emailed me back with some crud about being in meetings all morning and asking if he could call and follow up with me this afternoon. I wore my cell phone and waited and nothing. NOTHING. Now, I'm sure he is just avoiding me. I'm not a pushy person, but I've made the mistake of believing these people (or wanting to). They are all a bunch of liars and I guess I'd be doing myself a favor to just give up. I'm not being an unreasonable job seeker at all, if anything I undershoot myself when it comes to talking about salary (I've always said I just want to be paid the going rate for entry level NPs, which could be 70-90k a year.)

I give up.

The email didn't seem snotty really to me.

Anyway, just look your best and act confident, I'm sure you'll do great and I wish you luck!

The latest drama involves a staffing agency agent who keeps telling me to expect a phone call from his client in New Mexico...After two days he emailed me to ask if I had heard anything and when I emailed him back saying they must not be interested because I never heard from them he shot back a kind of snotty email and I have cut an pasted it here: (MountainaireNP) they are interested in speaking with you. As I am sure you can imagine their daily schedules are busy due to the needs of the hospital. In speaking with them yesterday they mentioned that they would be reaching out to you so just hang tight and keep your phone available. I would not take them not contacting you yesterday as a sign that they are not interested. I have spoken with them and confirmed that they are interested in moving forward in the interview process, so let's stay positive and patient. I am sure someone will be reaching out to you soon either today or in the coming days. Please touch base with me following your conversation with them to let me know how things went. Thanks I'm so desperate for a chance, anywhere, that I'm holding onto this little bit of hope, as pitiful as it is. I went and got a new haircut, dyed my hair a conservative color (my hair is dark brown, almost black but I went a shade lighter because they say it makes you look younger). I just can't do anything about my huge chest and middle aged figure. The recruiter mentioned I might need to be available to fly down there very soon so I'm trying to figure out what kind of suit to wear? Something black, I assume. I'm a dress person so I'd like a long black skirt, but most everything I see at Lane Bryant is too short for my liking. I'm kind of in a tizzy and to top it off was told by my supervisor at my hospice job I'm "kind of scattered." I don't want to be scattered but when you have 5 kids and a husband...anyway. I need a lot of help to be organized. I'm fastidious and clean but my thoughts really are kind of scattered. For example, right now I have a one year old fighting for my attention while I type this. Will they pay to fly me down there and rent a car? Do you think this recruiter is just stringing me along or...? He told me on the phone that when I talk to them emphasize I'm interested in the community and being in NM and not just interested in the "opportunity." What can I do to be more polished and organized, if indeed I get to go down there? If this is for real it's a good deal: a good salary and they pay back your student loans. I don't want to miss out. Thanks for any advice.[/quote']

The email doesn't sound snotty at all to me. It just sounds like the recruiter is trying convey that they are busy and it may take a little while to respond to you. Anyways, as far as appearance goes, I agree with PP. I too had to bite the bullet and spend some money on a few quality pieces of interview clothes. Yes, I'd go with a black suit and something with color that brightens your face for a blouse. Don't underestimate the people that work in the stores, they helped me put together several outfits and I too am struggling with having a baby recently and need clothes that help detract from my belly. Try a Spanx or some such type garment that will help you feel more slim.

Try and find positive inspiration somewhere. If you tell yourself enough times that you are fat, old and nobody should want you it becomes a self - fulfilling prophecy..

Specializes in Pediatric Pulmonology and Allergy.

I know it's hard to hold on to hope when things seem hopeless... but this may indeed be the opportunity you were looking for. Don't be so quick to dampen your hopes by telling yourself that nobody would be interested in someone as fat and dumpy as yourself. If you are not convinced of your own value it will be hard to convince anyone else.

Specializes in FNP, ONP.

The email sounds to me like he is pleading with you to keep it together. Reading between the lines, it sounds like he interpreted the email he got from you to be a lot like the posts you have on this board: negative, self defeating, self sabotaging.

I mean these comments to be supportive. I think you are your own worst enemy. And I still think that if you fail to address your patently obvious self-esteem issues, you are not going to be an attractive candidate in any sense of the word. You have GOT to project confidence in a job interview. They want to see polished, self assured professionalism. You are telling us you don't have those qualities; I can infer from your commentary that you don't. I suggest you work on obtaining them. I know you want a NP job, I get it. But based on your comments on this board no job is going to cure what ails you. It's a band-aid. I'd like to see you really get on your feet, but you are going to have to reach out for a hand up.

That said, I wish you the best of luck with this interview. I've no idea if they will cover the cost of your travel expenses. That used to be par for the course, but there have been cutbacks. Just ask the recruiter.

Did you get the PM I sent you with the other recruiter's contact information?

Specializes in Pediatric Pulmonology and Allergy.

I will add that I had one out-of-state trip arranged (and paid for) by a recruiter and it was as you describe -- weeks of back and forth (after telling me that they were interested in flying me out "next week"). I had all but given up and was looking into other things when I was called for a telephone interview and then drove down there. The job didn't work out for other reasons but the interview did happen... eventually.

Specializes in Urology NP.
The email sounds to me like he is pleading with you to keep it together. Reading between the lines, it sounds like he interpreted the email he got from you to be a lot like the posts you have on this board: negative, self defeating, self sabotaging.

I mean these comments to be supportive. I think you are your own worst enemy. And I still think that if you fail to address your patently obvious self-esteem issues, you are not going to be an attractive candidate in any sense of the word. You have GOT to project confidence in a job interview. They want to see polished, self assured professionalism. You are telling us you don't have those qualities; I can infer from your commentary that you don't. I suggest you work on obtaining them. I know you want a NP job, I get it. But based on your comments on this board no job is going to cure what ails you. It's a band-aid. I'd like to see you really get on your feet, but you are going to have to reach out for a hand up.

That said, I wish you the best of luck with this interview. I've no idea if they will cover the cost of your travel expenses. That used to be par for the course, but there have been cutbacks. Just ask the recruiter.

Did you get the PM I sent you with the other recruiter's contact information?

^This!!

And more importantly, you need to project confidence as a Provider when caring for patients. You need to show your patients that they can be confident in the care you provide them. They will pick up on this and it will have a significant impact on your patient satisfaction.

You have to take action to make the changes; nobody else can do it for you. Believe in yourself!

Specializes in ER, HH, CTICU, corrections, cardiology, hospice.

At this level, they pay all interview costs. Focus on the positive aspects of your nursing style. Fake it until you make it. You obviously have something on the ball to get your masters, It ain't easy. Heck, they tried to kick me out of ALL of my nursing programs. Yet here I am.

I agree, the recruiter was trying to keep you together in the email. But I agree, they say they will call, they call. Though I have been jerked around and still got the position, so perseverance is key. When they call, they will likely apologize for the mix up, blow it off saying, "no worries, one of the keys to our profession is flexibility."

BTW, I'm nothing to look at and fat to boot, it hasn't stopped me. So buck up, you have skills people want. Ask questions, lots of question. Especially in interviews. Ask about expansions, if it is a hospital, was a nurse involved in the design or planning. Do some online research about the organization, ask questions about the organization.

Good luck and talk to yourself better than you have been. If you catch yourself saying negative things about yourself, correct yourself and say it in a positive way.

You have stepped into a different world from nursing. In nursing, the hiring world moves at the drop of a hat and nurses are moved and hired instantly throughout the hospital. You are now in the professional business world...and it moves S L O W L Y. It may be a week before they call you. Be patient. Be positive and upbeat !

The last recruiter I dealt with is the last one I ever plan to deal with if I can help it. All I can say, is my experience is that they are insincere pencil pushers and don't even take the time to read or understand your resume before they start calling and offering to apply to jobs for you. I don't know why they have to exist.

BlueDevil I did get your PM and will call. Thank you for the information. I won't hold out much hope but it is a little hope at least.

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