Medical Asst vs Nurse

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I noticed the Career Technical College near where I live has a medical asst program yet when the students graduated as a MA they can work as a nurse in doctors office. For me the gripe is that they are not the same. I mean nurses go to school to become nurses. Medical assts dont do the nursing aspects.

GRRR Just upset as to this :angryfire

Thanks for listening to me rant!! :rolleyes:

No need for sarcasm. Why are they paid way below what a RN makes? In my state there is at least a $10 difference? No difference between ADN or RN.
An RN program is 2-4 years.

An LVN program is 1 year (too short) to 18 months.

As an LVN, I think RN's should get paid more.

No need for sarcasm. Why are they paid way below what a RN makes? In my state there is at least a $10 difference? No difference between ADN or RN.
An RN program is 2-4 years.

An LVN program is 1 year (too short) to 18 months.

As an LVN, I think RN's should get paid more.

No, I do not get ask that alot. However, it amazes me that especially on this site that one would not know that a LVN is a nurse . I did give you a simple answer ,very simple.

Don't even trip over somebody who has no clue what a nurse is.

You know what a nurse is?

Somebody who has been taught nursing ethics, patient rights, had clinicals at the bedside at a local MAIN HOSPITAL, and so on.

No, I do not get ask that alot. However, it amazes me that especially on this site that one would not know that a LVN is a nurse . I did give you a simple answer ,very simple.

Don't even trip over somebody who has no clue what a nurse is.

You know what a nurse is?

Somebody who has been taught nursing ethics, patient rights, had clinicals at the bedside at a local MAIN HOSPITAL, and so on.

Specializes in ICU, PICC Nurse, Nursing Supervisor.

I cant believe what Im reading. All of these are very valuable jobs and each have their own responsibilty. However, you cant go around considering a CNA a nurse when they are not. It is a protected title. Sure PCA's and CNA's may be nurses one day, but you dont get the title until you have the education to back it up. And I know there are PCA's and CNA's that are very smart and know there stuff.

Hmmmm...I'm an LVN, but I'd consider PCA's and CNA's as nurses.

Too me, there's 4 types of nurses:

NP

RN

LVN

CNA

Why CNA's ? Because most CNA's will end up being LVN's and RN's

Specializes in ICU, PICC Nurse, Nursing Supervisor.

I cant believe what Im reading. All of these are very valuable jobs and each have their own responsibilty. However, you cant go around considering a CNA a nurse when they are not. It is a protected title. Sure PCA's and CNA's may be nurses one day, but you dont get the title until you have the education to back it up. And I know there are PCA's and CNA's that are very smart and know there stuff.

Hmmmm...I'm an LVN, but I'd consider PCA's and CNA's as nurses.

Too me, there's 4 types of nurses:

NP

RN

LVN

CNA

Why CNA's ? Because most CNA's will end up being LVN's and RN's

Specializes in LDRP.

You know what a nurse is?

Somebody who has been taught nursing ethics, patient rights, had clinicals at the bedside at a local MAIN HOSPITAL, and so on.

Hmmmm...I'm an LVN, but I'd consider PCA's and CNA's as nurses.

Too me, there's 4 types of nurses:

NP

RN

LVN

CNA

Why CNA's ? Because most CNA's will end up being LVN's and RN's

both of these were from the same poster. it doesn't matter if a CNA is going to be a nurse. he/she is NOT a nurse until they graduate. I am a student nurse, and I am going to be a nurse, very soon. but i am not yet a nurse. i dont call myself a nurse, nor ask anyone to call me a nurse.

and what about your argument that a nurse is someone who's had clinicals at a main hospital? several CNA's i know never had a clinical at teh hospital, but only at nursing homes. never worked in or stepped a food in a big hospital. are they not nurses, but the hospital CNA's are nurses?

CNA's dont need to go to college, they don't know about medications, pathophysiology of disease, patient response, etc etc. it is not all "nursing ethics and rights" and having clinicals.

no disrespect to CNA's. but they are nursing ASSISTANTS not nurses. no bones about.

:angryfire

rose

Specializes in LDRP.

You know what a nurse is?

Somebody who has been taught nursing ethics, patient rights, had clinicals at the bedside at a local MAIN HOSPITAL, and so on.

Hmmmm...I'm an LVN, but I'd consider PCA's and CNA's as nurses.

Too me, there's 4 types of nurses:

NP

RN

LVN

CNA

Why CNA's ? Because most CNA's will end up being LVN's and RN's

both of these were from the same poster. it doesn't matter if a CNA is going to be a nurse. he/she is NOT a nurse until they graduate. I am a student nurse, and I am going to be a nurse, very soon. but i am not yet a nurse. i dont call myself a nurse, nor ask anyone to call me a nurse.

and what about your argument that a nurse is someone who's had clinicals at a main hospital? several CNA's i know never had a clinical at teh hospital, but only at nursing homes. never worked in or stepped a food in a big hospital. are they not nurses, but the hospital CNA's are nurses?

CNA's dont need to go to college, they don't know about medications, pathophysiology of disease, patient response, etc etc. it is not all "nursing ethics and rights" and having clinicals.

no disrespect to CNA's. but they are nursing ASSISTANTS not nurses. no bones about.

:angryfire

rose

Specializes in Specializes in L/D, newborn, GYN, LTC, Dialysis.

Saying a CNA is a nurse is like saying a medical student is a doctor, if you are to accept this logic. IF after all, most CNA's will go on to be RN/LPN then they shall be called nurses.....does this mean we call the student docs "doctor" before graduating? After all, they will surely all become doctors, "someday". It's faulty and unacceptable to do either, anyone can see that. CNA's are invaluable, but they are NOT nurses the same way students are NOT doctors!

Specializes in Specializes in L/D, newborn, GYN, LTC, Dialysis.

Saying a CNA is a nurse is like saying a medical student is a doctor, if you are to accept this logic. IF after all, most CNA's will go on to be RN/LPN then they shall be called nurses.....does this mean we call the student docs "doctor" before graduating? After all, they will surely all become doctors, "someday". It's faulty and unacceptable to do either, anyone can see that. CNA's are invaluable, but they are NOT nurses the same way students are NOT doctors!

Makes sense to me.

Makes sense to me.

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