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how many different ways to fail at your school?

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Specializes in LDRP.

i know this sounds very negative, but sometimes i think its crazy how there is only one way to pass but a zillion ways to fail. so...ways you can fail/get kicked out/be "unsuccessful at my school

-fail the math test given at beginning of each semester. we are given 10 math dosage questions. if you miss one, you pass. if you miss more than one, you fail. but, if you fail the test one time, you can take it again in one week. if you fail that one, you're out. (in first semester, you had already taken math dosage class in summer, so you did know the stuff.)

-get less than a 75 class average. only thing that counts towards your grade is tests/exams. no clinical, no extra assignments, nothing else

-fail to do the LSRN computer assignments. you get some points for that, but only after you've already passed the class they add it on to your grade. they dont want you to pass based on what you got on the LSRN

-fail to do any other random assignments given to you. like in 2nd year, this big teachign project we had to do, in the community, but got no grade for it. just have to do it

-fail to get a "satisfactory" care plan during the clinical rotation you are in. we dont get number grades for those, just S or U

-have your clinical performance deemed unsatisfactory.

yeah, theres more, im sure. those are just what stick out.

There are a lot of ways to get dropped from our program too! There are probably several more ways to get thrown out, but these are the major ones.

1. Fail lecture, you need a 78 to pass

2. Fail the pharm/math test at the begining of each semester

3. Fail any of the skills check offs (you get 3 tries)

4. Fail the clinical skills test (you get 1 try)

5. Fail clinical, either by getting an unsatisfactory or by missing too many hours

6. Compromise patient safety or patient privacy

moonbunnie

Has 5 years experience.

we have to get at least C's in all our classes, but if we get all C's and our gpa is less than 2.5 we get kicked out. we are allowed one D or F, we have to repeat the semester taking just that class, but if we get a second D or F we are kicked out. I dont think that they kick us out for our math test, but im not totally sure. i just know we had to get at least a 92% or retake it. and we can get kicked out for screwing up big time in clinical-not being a "prudent nurse" but I think thats about it. it sounds like some schools are just looking for reasons to get rid of you.

Here everything has to be passed with a B-. You only get two tries. This goes for A&P I & II also. Ifyou don't get it twice, you can't try at this school again.:crying2:

HappyNurse2005, RN

Specializes in LDRP.

oh yes, i forgot. in any of your support science classes-A&P1 and 2, micro-you must get a C. if you get less than a C, you can't go on in nursing.

and, since our nursing class is just one big class, not separate classes, ifyou fail the class you are failing it all. and you know what they make you do? say, student X fails 3rd semester in Fall 2004. instead of waiting til Fall 2005 and taking 3rd semester again (program starts once a year), Student X has to spend Spring 2005 taking 2nd semester again(even though he/she already pased it) then does 3rd semester again.

peole really think this blows, and heck, me too, but it makes sense. if you aren't in nursing classes for a year, you lose the knowledge. but it still sucks.

love, rose

DZcarrie

Has 10 years experience.

i know this sounds very negative, but sometimes i think its crazy how there is only one way to pass but a zillion ways to fail. so...ways you can fail/get kicked out/be "unsuccessful at my school

-fail the math test given at beginning of each semester. we are given 10 math dosage questions. if you miss one, you pass. if you miss more than one, you fail. but, if you fail the test one time, you can take it again in one week. if you fail that one, you're out. (in first semester, you had already taken math dosage class in summer, so you did know the stuff.)

-get less than a 75 class average. only thing that counts towards your grade is tests/exams. no clinical, no extra assignments, nothing else

-fail to do the LSRN computer assignments. you get some points for that, but only after you've already passed the class they add it on to your grade. they dont want you to pass based on what you got on the LSRN

-fail to do any other random assignments given to you. like in 2nd year, this big teachign project we had to do, in the community, but got no grade for it. just have to do it

-fail to get a "satisfactory" care plan during the clinical rotation you are in. we dont get number grades for those, just S or U

-have your clinical performance deemed unsatisfactory.

yeah, theres more, im sure. those are just what stick out.

this sounds identical to my school!

RedSox33RN

Specializes in Emergency Dept, M/S.

Sounds like my school too. Although any science must be passed with a "B" or better. Three tries, but if you don't make it on the first try, no more nursing classes until you do pass with a "B" (84 or better).

I thought the LSRN would just be a thorn in my side, but we actually get several questions from those exams on our real ones. We only get 3 points in our overall grade for it, but if we DON'T do it, we fail also.

No grades for papers, but same again - we MUST do it. Actually, I take that back, it counts for 2% of our overall grade, even though we present them only to our clinical group and our clinical instructor grades them. Even though we don't get a grade for clinical.

Plus, with our clinical, we get a written note to the head of the nursing dept. if we get any "Unsatisfactory" on any area of our clinical at midterm. If we don't have all "Satisfactory" in all categories by the end of term, we fail.

Yes, there certainly is a lot of ways to flunk out! It's hard to explain to any non-nursing college student that, yes, I'm "only" taking ONE class this semester, but it incorporates FOUR days of the week. Two for lecture, one for lab, and one for clinical. And that 2 of those areas are not graded. They don't get it! LOL

Diva Nurse Dani

Specializes in Oncology, Home Health, Psychiatry. Has 6 years experience.

At my school...passing is 80%!!! (well...actually 79.5% rounded up will pass you)

We also have 3 tries to pass a lab return , you have 3 tries to pass the math test, and 2nd semester of the first year you have to do a case study (average length is 25 typed, single spaced pages)

Care plans, med cards, concept maps every week for clinical graded as satisfactory or unsatisfactory. It you are unsatisfactory, considered unsafe at clinical, or miss 2 days of clinical (or are late 4 times) ...yep, you guessed it...dropped!

Man, with the shortage...no wonder we are still short...too hard to get thru class!!!!

:uhoh3:

HappyNurse2005, RN

Specializes in LDRP.

Care plans, med cards, concept maps every week for clinical graded as satisfactory or unsatisfactory. It you are unsatisfactory, considered unsafe at clinical, or miss 2 days of clinical (or are late 4 times) ...yep, you guessed it...dropped!

yep, we have med cards to do to, but they finally let us use the pre-printed ones this year. but we still have to know all teh stuff on them. even if you miss clinical 2 days but have a good reason? you still get dropped ?

hmm...that'd eliminate a lot of people here.

love, rose

gerry79

Specializes in ED, Cardiac Medicine, Retail Health.

Even after all the above mentioned, we must jump thru the golden hoop. Of course its on fire, and we are doused with lighter fluid and are not allowed to get burned! If one hair is singed..... YOURE OUT OF THE PROGRAM!!!!!!!!! Nursing school, its not only and education, its an endurance test.

You all forgot the best way to fail! MISS CLASS! SICK OR NOT! It'll put you so far behind, you can hardly catch up!

LOL I love the hair on fire jumping through hoops post. Don't forget to have your lips puckered as you jump through the flames because you still have to kiss some youknowwhat with a smile as you jump-otherwise, you can't get back in :rotfl:

At my CC's nursing program:

1. We have to have no less than a 75 average. Which I think is absolutely ridiculous. I think our test should be at least 51 ques. instead of 50. There are plenty of people in my class that have scored a 74 and the grade is considered an F. :o

2. If we fail the Laboratory Skills portion of the course, we fail the entire course.

3. If we fail the Clinical portion of the course, we fail the entire course.

4. And the one that urks me the most is that if we fail the 1 credit Medical Mathematics course, we fail the entire course....

I'm just trying to stay positive!!!!

Fatima

LeashRN

Specializes in Cardiac. Has 2 years experience.

Boy, I'm not even sure what the criteria is for being dropped from school that I attend - I mean other than getting less than a grade of 70% or failing clinical, which is a pass/fail scenario. We also have worksheets, papers, written skills test and return demos to complete but I haven't even thought to ask how bad I would have to perform to be 'dropped'.

I'm just running scared, my eyes tearing from the speed at which I am heading toward my future - that's how I've maintained a 4.0 grade average for the last 51 units.........:uhoh21:

abundantjoy07, RN

Specializes in ER, Medicine.

-Failing the dosage calculations test at beginning of semester.

-Failing checkoffs (twice)

-Not making a 75 average on tests at end of semester.

I agree with what everyone has said. Another thing to watch out for is making sure that you make a good impression on your clinical instructor at the beginning of the semester. For some reason, if some instructors get a bad first impression of you, they may think that you shouldn't become a nurse. Then you have to work a heck of a lot harder than anyone else to prove them wrong the rest of the semester. Then you hope and pray they don't end up failing you at the end of the semester. :chair:

HappyNurse2005, RN

Specializes in LDRP.

i obviously dont know how your school does it,but here, you can't just randomly be failed at the end of the semester.

make a good impression on your clinical instructor at the beginning of the semester. For some reason, if some instructors get a bad first impression of you, they may think that you shouldn't become a nurse. Then you have to work a heck of a lot harder than anyone else to prove them wrong the rest of the semester. Then you hope and pray they don't end up failing you at the end of the semester.

we are evaluated at the end of each clinical week. we get a filled out sheet, evaluating our professional behavior, skills, nursing process, commmunication, etc. so you can't just fail, you have an idea how you are doing.

i really hope that your clinical instructor can't just say "fail" and thats it! don't they have to have some documentation?

im sorry-soundslike it sucks.

love, rose

At our school, you can get a warning notice during the semester for clinicals. You have 30 days to take care of the problem. What I'm saying is that if an instructor has it in for you, they will find a way to ride you or write you up. If for example, my care plan is unsatisfactory, all she has to do is find things wrong with it every time I do one. At the end of the semester, she can fail me because she can say that all my care plans are unsatisfactory even though everyone elses may not be perfect either.

leixlip

Specializes in PCU/TELE. Has 1 years experience.

We also have a C (77) average pass rule. We can also get kicked out for breach of conduct/ethics violations such as discussing test content, discussing patients publicly and all kind of stuff. Also doing stuff in clinics that we have not yet done in class is a big no,no. Doesn't matter who told you to do it. Get yer packpack, yer outta here!!

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