Mandatory flu vaccines

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My hospital has instituted a new policy that you are required to have a flu vaccine. If FOR ANY REASON you cannot or will not get one, you must wear a mask from now until they deem the end of flu season. 2 years ago after getting my flu vaccine from employee health, I got a huge localized reaction, red raised hard bump, and had a fever for several days. I was going to start antibiotics, but the fever broke before I got them filled. They assumed it was a site infection, but never really know for sure, so I never got one last year since employee health has me listed as "bad reaction". So they refuse to give me a vaccine and are requiring me to wear a mask for the next several months. This seems rather unfair.

What do you think about being forced to get vaccines?

With previous bad reactions, should you be excused form the mask wearing?

I already struggle with getting the hard of hearing to hear me speak, since I have an accent, and Im a sweater.

Boohoo. Was thinking of getting the one they shoot up your nose, but my pcp thinks I shouldnt since we never knew what caused my reaction.

Specializes in Heme Onc.

Um... everyone on my unit has to wear masks during flu season, whether you get the vaccination or not. So yeah this is fair.

If you prefer, you can try this:

Voordouw, A. C. G., Sturkenboom, M. C. J. M., Dieleman, J. P., Stijnen, T., Smith, D. J., van der Lei, J., & Stricker, B. H. C. (2004). Annual revaccination against influenza and mortality risk in community-dwelling elderly persons. Jama, 292(17), 2089-2095.

Better! But still only one study and not comparable to healthcare workers receiving an annual flu vaccine over the course of their careers. We simply don't know the long-term consequences, if there are any. Maybe there aren't! Maybe it's perfectly safe to receive an annual flu vaccine for 20+ years of a nursing career and there is zero risk of negative effects later in life. But we DON'T KNOW that for sure, simply because there hasn't been enough time to study it.

Specializes in Adult Internal Medicine.
Better! But still only one study and not comparable to healthcare workers receiving an annual flu vaccine over the course of their careers. We simply don't know the long-term consequences, if there are any. Maybe there aren't! Maybe it's perfectly safe to receive an annual flu vaccine for 20+ years of a nursing career and there is zero risk of negative effects later in life. But we DON'T KNOW that for sure, simply because there hasn't been enough time to study it.

Science is never 100%. What we know is what has been studied, and that data demonstrates the risk of vaccination is far less than the risk of disease.

We simply don't know the long-term consequences, if there are any. Maybe there aren't! Maybe it's perfectly safe to shower daily for 20+ years of a nursing career and there is zero risk of negative effects later in life. But we DON'T KNOW that for sure, simply because there hasn't been enough time to study it.

Specializes in CVICU CCRN.
We simply don't know the long-term consequences, if there are any. Maybe there aren't! Maybe it's perfectly safe to shower daily for 20+ years of a nursing career and there is zero risk of negative effects later in life. But we DON'T KNOW that for sure, simply because there hasn't been enough time to study it.

I would never shower daily. Way too risky! :stinkyfeet:

Specializes in critical care.
If you are retired and "older than a certain age" you are more susceptible to flu.

And life-threatening complications from the flu.

Specializes in critical care.
The extant data shows a reduction in risk of Alzheimer's.

"According to this analysis of data from a large-scale longitudinal study of elderly Canadians, vaccination against diphtheria or tetorifice, poliomyelitis or influenza was associated with lower risk for Alzheimer's disease than no vaccination."

Verreault, R., Laurin, D., Lindsay, J., & De Serres, G. (2001). Past exposure to vaccines and subsequent risk of Alzheimer's disease. Canadian Medical Association Journal, 165(11), 1495-1498.

Specializes in critical care.
I would never shower daily. Way too risky! :stinkyfeet:

Agreed. My immune system needs the bacteria I'm colonizing on my skin and the creepy men at Walmart need to smell how much I stink so they leave me alone.

Specializes in critical care.

Wait a second. I thought this was the >1000 post flu vax thread. This is crazy. I don't even know what thread we're in. These suckers need to be merged.

Specializes in Cardiac, Home Health, Primary Care.

Unless you had an anaphylaxis reaction or hives all over I don't see why you DON'T get it.

Also, imagine this:

Your elderly grandmother/newborn child is going to the docs office for a routine check up. They were not able to get the flu shot and the nurse or doctor is asymptomatic for another few hours with Flu A cause they didn't take the shot or wear the mask. How nice will it be for them to wind up with some complication because someone didn't wear a mask or get the shot?

I think the story is plausible and could turn out fatal.

Mask, shot, or don't work during flu season.

Specializes in Cardiac, Home Health, Primary Care.

Oh and PS...

I love the posts from those who have followed both threads.

Thankfully I haven't.

Specializes in Adult Internal Medicine.

Just got my shot today!

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