Mandatory flu vaccines

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My hospital has instituted a new policy that you are required to have a flu vaccine. If FOR ANY REASON you cannot or will not get one, you must wear a mask from now until they deem the end of flu season. 2 years ago after getting my flu vaccine from employee health, I got a huge localized reaction, red raised hard bump, and had a fever for several days. I was going to start antibiotics, but the fever broke before I got them filled. They assumed it was a site infection, but never really know for sure, so I never got one last year since employee health has me listed as "bad reaction". So they refuse to give me a vaccine and are requiring me to wear a mask for the next several months. This seems rather unfair.

What do you think about being forced to get vaccines?

With previous bad reactions, should you be excused form the mask wearing?

I already struggle with getting the hard of hearing to hear me speak, since I have an accent, and Im a sweater.

Boohoo. Was thinking of getting the one they shoot up your nose, but my pcp thinks I shouldnt since we never knew what caused my reaction.

Specializes in Adult Internal Medicine.
what about substantiated long-term research disproving the possible link between 5+ years of consecutive flu shots and increased risk of Alzheimer's later in life? (hint: such research doesn't exist yet.)

The extant data shows a reduction in risk of Alzheimer's.

"According to this analysis of data from a large-scale longitudinal study of elderly Canadians, vaccination against diphtheria or tetorifice, poliomyelitis or influenza was associated with lower risk for Alzheimer's disease than no vaccination."

Verreault, R., Laurin, D., Lindsay, J., & De Serres, G. (2001). Past exposure to vaccines and subsequent risk of Alzheimer's disease. Canadian Medical Association Journal, 165(11), 1495-1498.

The extant data shows a reduction in risk of Alzheimer's.

"According to this analysis of data from a large-scale longitudinal study of elderly Canadians, vaccination against diphtheria or tetorifice, poliomyelitis or influenza was associated with lower risk for Alzheimer's disease than no vaccination."

Verreault, R., Laurin, D., Lindsay, J., & De Serres, G. (2001). Past exposure to vaccines and subsequent risk of Alzheimer's disease. Canadian Medical Association Journal, 165(11), 1495-1498.

:) why is that? I have a hard time believing that, sorry.

:) why is that? I have a hard time believing that, sorry.

He gave you the reference, read it!

:) why is that? I have a hard time believing that, sorry.

nice comeback! :rolleyes:

:) why is that? I have a hard time believing that, sorry.

It doesn't really matter what you, or I, or anyone else, "believes." What matters is what the objective evidence shows.

For Christ's sake, stop it!! Stop egging rusti1 on!!

Just don't reply to him. He shut up until you started taking him seriously.

He will go away once the attention stops.

For Christ's sake, stop it!! Stop egging the rusti1 on!!

Just don't reply to him. He shut up until you started taking him seriously.

He will go away once the attention stops.

Oh, I thought the rusti1 was a girl. I figured ending rusti with an "i' is a feminine touch.

I did that with my name in 4th grade so I could dot it with a little heart! s'cute! :inlove:

I just assume that anyone who is deliberately obtuse is male. Whoops!

Specializes in Adult Internal Medicine.
I just assume that anyone who is deliberately obtuse is male. Whoops!

ouch!

Specializes in Adult Internal Medicine.
:) why is that? I have a hard time believing that, sorry.

Because you are interested only in pseudoscience; you have a pre-conceived belief and look for data to support it rejecting all other information.

from the study quoted: "Widespread influenza vaccination started in the 1970s. However, none of these vaccines has ever been compulsory. Second, because of the self-reported nature of the risk factor questionnaire, we cannot exclude the possibility of recall bias. Moreover, no information was available about the timing of vaccination or the number of doses of vaccine received."

This isn't a long-term study of people who received annual flu vaccines over the course of 5+ years.

Specializes in Adult Internal Medicine.
from the study quoted: "Widespread influenza vaccination started in the 1970s. However, none of these vaccines has ever been compulsory. Second, because of the self-reported nature of the risk factor questionnaire, we cannot exclude the possibility of recall bias. Moreover, no information was available about the timing of vaccination or the number of doses of vaccine received."

True there is a risk of recall bias, its a limitation of the study.

This isn't a long-term study of people who received annual flu vaccines over the course of 5+ years.

"4392 eligible subjects who were cognitively unimpaired and for whom vaccine information was available at baseline (in 1991–1992) and who completed follow-up 5 years later (in 1996–1997)"

Some may have had it annually, some may not have, regardless the data supported a reduction not an increase.

Please, share the study that demonstrates a risk that has you concerned.

This is one of the more typical myths out there and I know for a fact there is no study that shows anything close.

If you prefer, you can try this:

Voordouw, A. C. G., Sturkenboom, M. C. J. M., Dieleman, J. P., Stijnen, T., Smith, D. J., van der Lei, J., & Stricker, B. H. C. (2004). Annual revaccination against influenza and mortality risk in community-dwelling elderly persons. Jama, 292(17), 2089-2095.

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