LVN-RN ADN VS BSN

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Specializes in ER, M/S, LTAC.

Most hospitals are going magnate status, therefore RN positions are getting scarce for ADN Nurses. Its just disappointing knowing we qualified for the same license, we passed the same license but having a BSN gives an extra edge in job hunting. What about the gained experience as an LVN? These LVN-RN ADN Programs are so intense that they throw you on the clinical floor on your 3rd week after you start the program and expected to be a full functioning RN. Basically doing 3 day hands on nursing practice and 2 days of theory in such a short amount of time and pass the boards just like our BSN colleague. Was there a special class in head to toe assessment that was offered in a BSN program? Was there a Critical Thinking Skill 101 that I missed? Advanced/Intermediate Dosage Calculation Class perhaps. Specialized Care Plan making class? (Ours were based on the ROY Adaptation Model). Just my 2 cents.

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Specializes in LTC.

Yeah its unfortunate. The only thing I can do is to plan to transfer for bachelors degree, now if I can only get someone to pay it. :rolleyes:

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Unfortunately it is what is. If you want to remain competitive you have to have a BSN.

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Specializes in Emergency Nursing.

Yeah it is what it is. I'm all about more education. However, it has to be the right kind of education and not just more education for the sake of more education.

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Specializes in ER, M/S, LTAC.
Unfortunately it is what is. If you want to remain competitive you have to have a BSN.

I know. Thats the plan. RN - MS via UCSF =http://nurseweb.ucsf.edu/www/ps-ad.htm

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Specializes in LTC, Med-Surge, Ortho.

Well suppose we were all BSN prepared nurses, will the problems such as staffing ratios be fixed, patients being sent home too early to only come back with an infection, poor nurse retention and the lists goes on and on........ I was telling someone the other day, I bet if a national disaster occurs or an uncontrollable disease happens and they need nurses really bad, i wonder if it will be a big deal about whether you are a RN ADN or BSN, Don't get me wrong,education is important and knowledge is power, but don't make us ADN prepared RNs feel like we are uneducated compared to the BSN RN, because this could not be more farther from the truth. If there is such a big difference, then we should be taking different NCLEX RN exams. Also, the LPNS that have been practicing for 10 or twenty years with oodles of experience and who are helping to train new RNs in some hospitals, shall we just sweep them under the rug!!!!! Every nurse is valuable no matter what level of degree and lastly, we all know that some of us who have BSNs and Master degrees are not paid according to degree level, so in my conclusion, i think that the nursing profession has become more political rather than focusing on patient care and outcomes, just my opinion.:idea:

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Specializes in ER, M/S, LTAC.
Well suppose we were all BSN prepared nurses, will the problems such as staffing ratios be fixed, patients being sent home too early to only come back with an infection, poor nurse retention and the lists goes on and on........ I was telling someone the other day, I bet if a national disaster occurs or an uncontrollable disease happens and they need nurses really bad, i wonder if it will be a big deal about whether you are a RN ADN or BSN, Don't get me wrong,education is important and knowledge is power, but don't make us ADN prepared RNs feel like we are uneducated compared to the BSN RN, because this could not be more farther from the truth. If there is such a big difference, then we should be taking different NCLEX RN exams. Also, the LPNS that have been practicing for 10 or twenty years with oodles of experience and who are helping to train new RNs in some hospitals, shall we just sweep them under the rug!!!!! Every nurse is valuable no matter what level of degree and lastly, we all know that some of us who have BSNs and Master degrees are not paid according to degree level, so in my conclusion, i think that the nursing profession has become more political rather than focusing on patient care and outcomes, just my opinion.:idea:

Jeez! Ms Sweetnurse! Its like you are reading my mind. My sentiments exactly! Politics indeed. I'm really considering UCSFs RN-MS Program. Maybe it will make my bed making skills and bed bath better. Just Kiddingggg!!!!

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Well suppose we were all BSN prepared nurses, will the problems such as staffing ratios be fixed, patients being sent home too early to only come back with an infection, poor nurse retention and the lists goes on and on........ I was telling someone the other day, I bet if a national disaster occurs or an uncontrollable disease happens and they need nurses really bad, i wonder if it will be a big deal about whether you are a RN ADN or BSN, Don't get me wrong,education is important and knowledge is power, but don't make us ADN prepared RNs feel like we are uneducated compared to the BSN RN, because this could not be more farther from the truth. If there is such a big difference, then we should be taking different NCLEX RN exams. Also, the LPNS that have been practicing for 10 or twenty years with oodles of experience and who are helping to train new RNs in some hospitals, shall we just sweep them under the rug!!!!! Every nurse is valuable no matter what level of degree and lastly, we all know that some of us who have BSNs and Master degrees are not paid according to degree level, so in my conclusion, i think that the nursing profession has become more political rather than focusing on patient care and outcomes, just my opinion.:idea:

Very well stated! I could not agree with you more. I currently work in a hospital where all new hires have to be BSN. I have been an ADN nurse for over 25 years. Talking with my co-workers who are also ADN RN's we do feel undervalued. It is hard to transfer to new position because its always the BSN nurse that gets position. I feel pushed into a corner and that if I dont achieve a BSN I will not advance in my workplace or have job security.

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Specializes in Nursing Education, CVICU, Float Pool.

It is a very upsetting sentiment. At my hospital, which in the rural southeast of NC, achieved magnet status not too long ago and now everytime a positions posted for nursing it says "BSN Preferred". Now regardless of this I have known over 10 A.D.N nurses to get hired since last spring. However, there is talk of out HOUR and Administration enforcing the requirement of newly hired RNs having a BSN. Our Nursing Recruiter has quit, some say becuase of this, of corse I am not sure becuase you never know with hospital gossip, she is leaving though. Even though our nurse recruiter is A BSN nurse, she started out as an A.D.N nurse just as many at out hospital have done. If the majority of the RNs in this country are A.D.N prepared why do various organization act as if A.D.N is the minority?

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