Lpn & asn are are being phased out.

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I live in the midwest and I've been seeing that schools have discontinued the LPN and ASN programs. Will the entry level for a nurse be BSN or MSN??? What will happen to nurses that only has an ASN?? I'm more concerned about people that are okay with just being an ASN and not wanting to go to school for 4 years(like myself) & knowing you'll never pay off your student loans.:no: Can somebody tell me why???

Specializes in Geriatrics.
What exactly do you think ASN/ADN nurses are incapable of caring for based solely on our education?

I never said I thought that...I just think if you're going to pay a person the same wages for the same job, you should also require the same educational requirements. If anything, ADNs are better prepared for going straight to work and take the NCLEX based on my educational experience...however that's unrelated to my initial comment.

If ADN gets phased out, only the future students will be affected anyways.

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Specializes in ICU.
Most hospitals require a BSN degree upon hire now. Especially magnet hospitals. It's becoming a baseline necessity for RN's. Would be smart to acquire one. I started out with my ADN then did ADN to BSN. Now doing BSN to MSN.

Not in my area of the Midwest. And I work at a magnet hospital.

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Specializes in ICU.

You are sadly mistaken. ASN and LPNs are not being phased out. This debate has been going on forever. It makes me wonder what you are trying to achieve from this post.

If if your particular area requires a BSN, then get it. It does not mean the others are being phased out. It's your area. That tells me there are too many new grads and not enough jobs. Therefore, your chance of getting a job is slim. Maybe going for nursing is not prudent in your area.

Don't try to be an expert in what hospitals are hiring in the entire US or what magnet means. Magnet is about RN retention. Not what degree they hold. That is a common misperception among people who don't understand what magnet status actually is. I work in a level one trauma center.

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Specializes in HH, Peds, Rehab, Clinical.

Not where I live. Not where I work. I think saying "most hospitals" is irresponsible and incorrect.

Most hospitals require a BSN degree upon hire now. Especially magnet hospitals. It's becoming a baseline necessity for RN's. Would be smart to acquire one. I started out with my ADN then did ADN to BSN. Now doing BSN to MSN.
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Specializes in ICU, Postpartum, Onc, PACU.

I graduated in 2007 and they were saying that then...they were also saying that we wouldn't see many (if any) Swanz and guess what? We still do. All the time.

I've heard the same things about LVNs as well, but lately the hospital I first started working at when I graduated have started using LVNs in the ER a lot (my family still work at the hospital and have told me they love being able to do different work than in a rehab center or long term care).

It just depends on where you live, I guess. I was traveling at UC Davis and I could travel there, with my ASN (even though to be hired on as staff you do have to have your BSN). I have a ton of loans I'm working on, but that's because I was a music major during and after my pre-med jaunt so I racked up the $$.

Don't stress about it because if they stopped letting all of us work, they'd be in serious trouble!!

xo

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Specializes in Peds Homecare.

I graduated from LPN school in December of 1979. In 1980, some people tried to tell me that story. Guess what, in July, I have been retired for 2 years....for 34 years I worked as an LPN. Every time I hear that nonsense I want to :banghead:. It's not true, it's never been true, and guess what? The Level 1 Trauma Center in this area, they hire LPN's. The other big hospitals...3 to be exact, in Syracuse NY, they hire LPN's too! Also, if that were ever come to be, all currently licensed nurses would be grandfathered in. Just stop, stop!

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Specializes in Pediatric.

Yawn. Been there heard that. If LPN's are ever phased out, nursing homes will cease to exist.

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Two large hospital systems in my area have gone BSN only. I never thought I would see that. If you are already employed fine, otherwise you are out of luck. I have been a nurse over 20 years and I have seen a shift. Because there are so many schools pumping out RN's monthly they can afford to enforce their policy. They have also ceased hiring LPN's at all and are moving the floor nurses out of acute care into their clinics and affiliated physician's offices. If I were entering nursing now I would just get the BSN and be done with it. I had an excellent run as an LPN working ER/MS/ICU and even travel nursing for years. That era is over and you are naive' if you refuse to see it. A few years ago you didn't need a Masters to be an NP and now...

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Yawn. Been there heard that. If LPN's are ever phased out, nursing homes will cease to exist.

And 10 years ago I only saw RN's in management in LTC. Here in Florida we have BSN prepared RN's pushing carts at the nursing home. When I supervise at the ALF we have ONE nurse for 240 beds with 6 med techs. That was 1 RN and 6 LPN's three years ago.

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Specializes in Med/Surg, Tele, Dialysis, Hospice.

In my area (Upper Midwest/Great Lakes) I see a lot of job postings for LPNs, and the two local LPN schools are very busy. LPNs are in demand here for LTC, clinics and MD offices, and hospice. Sometimes I think there are more LPN job postings than RN job postings, so no, they aren't going away any time soon in my area. ADN programs are also going strong at all of our local community colleges. Many of those grads then go on to get their BSNs later but still seem to easily find work in the meantime.

A lot of the RN job postings here do not require a BSN. I am a semester or two away from having my BSN as it got interrupted to pay for our kids' private school and then college which was more important to me. Even if I never finish it up, I have never missed out on a job opportunity because I don't have it. It helps that I have absolutely zero interest in any kind of management position, which I think would suck the joy and life blood out of me entirely, and that I am not looking to "climb the ladder" in any other way. At this point, I'm just looking forward to retiring and becoming a snowbird.

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Specializes in psych.

I'm graduating with a ASN in two weeks and have secured a job with a magnet hospital in my area. The LPN program in our area is going strong as well. I know a few ladies who have graduated in the past year and had no trouble finding jobs at all. Maybe it is happening where you live, but things here are pretty good for ASN and LPNs.

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What exactly do you think ASN/ADN nurses are incapable of caring for based solely on our education?

Agreed, and apparently the board of nursing doesn't see a problem with it either since all RN program graduates take the same NCLEX

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