Lost my first ICU patient today

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So I recently transferred to ICU from a med surg floor. I absolutely love ICU. I have learned so much and I really love being able to focus on my 1-2 patients. I feel I really know my patient from head to toe.

So today was my first death. I know you can't save them all but something about her death really disturbed me. She came in with a mesenteric arterial bleed that was emergently repaired in the OR on Tuesday. Against everyone's expectations she was still alive today. The surgeon did not think she would make it through the night Tuesday let alone until today. So she returned to OR for a wash out/ debridement this morning. They found that her entire bowel was dead. The surgeon told the family there was nothing more we could do and end of life care was initiated. The patient had been on a fentanyl drip and was resting calmly before and after surgery. She was on high dose pressors and intubated. We asked the family to step out to pull the ET tube and we also turned her pressors off at that time. As soon as we pulled the ET tube the patient began to moan and stated "it hurts so bad, it hurts, it hurts." I medicated her with prn morphine and ativan and called the family back in to say their goodbyes. She died about 15 minutes later.

I can't get over what her last words were. My heart breaks for her. I hate to think she was in this much pain the whole time she was intubated. She always seemed to be comfortable. It seems obvious to me now that this wasn't the case. I hate that she suffered so much. I just hope she didn't die in pain.

Tiger

No, Tiger I know you did the best. :redpinkhe

I have had some interesting conversations/learning with an excellent general surgeon that have made me see things in new ways. I understand there are different views, and there always will be. Really the surgeon would know certainly prior to the second surgery what he is likely to find, and would be briefing the family on options and responsibilities to the patient.

Again I totally support you, Tiger....

wow, the dr. ordered 5 whole mg of morphine.

how generous.:mad:

(nothing to do with you, tiger)

dang.

leslie

eta: ah..maybe i'm overreacting.

but 5 mg to treat a dead bowel????

may she rest peacefully.

Specializes in Medical-Surgical/Oncology.

Sorry to hear about your first death. Never easy. I had two deaths so far and never easy. Whether it is a code or DNR, still tugs at you. Wish you the best.

On another note, I have always had a love for ICU. Can you please tell me how the transition was for you going from M/S to ICU, and if you received any additional training, and how the staff treated you? No insults toward anyone, I just heard ICU nurses are not very friendly. Please correct me if I am wrong. I currently work on M/S floor. Oh, and how many years M/S before transferring to ICU?

wow, the dr. ordered 5 whole mg of morphine.

how generous.:mad:

(nothing to do with you, tiger)

dang.

leslie

eta: ah..maybe i'm overreacting.

but 5 mg to treat a dead bowel????

may she rest peacefully.

... and an open abdomen he was unable to close?! How 'bout keeping her sedated as well IMHO.:madface:

Specializes in Advanced Practice, surgery.

Tiger it is so difficult to judge analgesia in intubated patients and ischaemic bowel is incredibly difficult to get effective analgesia for as well. There are non verbal signs that I am sure you'd have been looking for such as increasing heart rate, facial grimacing etc etc, it may well be the trauma of extubating exacerbated the pain your patient experienced. As soon as you were aware this was dealt with and responded to your patients needs.

It sounds like you had a complex and difficult patient to manage.

Sending you hugs

Specializes in NICU.
wow, the dr. ordered 5 whole mg of morphine.

how generous.:mad:

(nothing to do with you, tiger)

dang.

leslie

eta: ah..maybe i'm overreacting.

but 5 mg to treat a dead bowel????

may she rest peacefully.

She was getting 200mcg/hr of fentanyl. She also received IV ativan in addition to the morphine.

She was sedated nicely before extubation, woke up enough to complain of pain immediately after extubation, was medicated and then was sedated again with no signs of pain preceding her death.

Tiger it is so difficult to judge analgesia in intubated patients and ischaemic bowel is incredibly difficult to get effective analgesia for as well. There are non verbal signs that I am sure you'd have been looking for such as increasing heart rate, facial grimacing etc etc, it may well be the trauma of extubating exacerbated the pain your patient experienced. As soon as you were aware this was dealt with and responded to your patients needs.

It sounds like you had a complex and difficult patient to manage.

Sending you hugs

sharrie, i totally agree with your post.

my frustration is with any doctor who ONLY prescribes 5 mg of mso4 for an ischemic/dead gut.

i know she had a fentanyl gtt, but again, what were her 1st words after being extubated?

so that did very little.

the surgeon should have known better...

i do know in icu, protocols are different.

even when my mom was dying but she wasn't officially cc, they didn't give her any analgesia until we disconnected everything.

but 5 mg?????

let's get real.

leslie

She was getting 200mcg/hr of fentanyl. She also received IV ativan in addition to the morphine.

She was sedated nicely before extubation, woke up enough to complain of pain immediately after extubation, was medicated and then was sedated again with no signs of pain preceding her death.

thanks, tiger.

200mcg/hr is good and, you guys never turned it off...

again, this has nothing to do with you.

and i am probably overreacting, esp since she seemed to receive the 5 (whole) mg of mso4, favorably.

just blow me off.

i think i'm cranky.

leslie

Specializes in NICU.

It sounds like you had a complex and difficult patient to manage.

She was quite complex. Probably my sickest patient since transferring to the ICU. I learned a lot from her case. It is amazing she survived as long as she did. When she came into the ER on 3/16 her hgb was 3, her INR was >9, and she was hemorrhaging internally.

...Do not extubate, Morphine 4 mg IV every 15 minutes, Propofol drip titrated to total sedation/unconsciousness, turn down sound on all monitors?

Maybe I just have different views, but I don't believe in actually causing death. I think a propofol drip "titrated to total sedation/unconsciousness" is a little bit inappropiate. There's a difference between making someone comfortable (using morphine in which the goal is to relieve pain, who has a side effect of respiratory depression) and using an agent purposefully for that. Not extubating is inhuman.

And I also believe in taking the patient OFF their monitoring equipment. There's no reason for me (or anyone else) to watch someone's heart rate or oxygenation drop, even if at the nursing station.

Specializes in M/S, MICU, CVICU, SICU, ER, Trauma, NICU.

Thanks for the clarification...I think I misunderstood it...

An open abdomen? I don't think any amount of meds would've helped.

sad.

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