Long Term Care Nursing is Lame

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Having worked in a long term/short-term rehab facility combination for a year now, I have to say that in comparison to other areas of nursing, it's pretty lame.

Yes, we work hard. We have 20 or more patients on our own who require medications. Sometimes they'll have tube feedings, ostomies, JP drains, etc. There are many wounds, blood sugars, bladder scans and emergent situations aren't as rare as you would think. No one is denying people at these facilities work hard.

At the same time, when looking at other areas of nursing, including ICU and ER, it's safe to say we don't really do as much for these patients as these incredible nurses do. For example, I am highly impressed with a cardiovascular surgical ICU in my town, one of the best in the nation. These nurses see and do EVERYTHING. Skills include Skills include TPM, PPM, Chest reopening, chest tubes, trach, PEG, JP, NG/OG, pigtail cat, extubation, sedation, CT/MRI, Bronchoscopy, line placement, cortrac, IR, specimen collection, medications including inotrops, vasoactive, blood administration, insulin, heparin, CPN/lipids, paraltyics, and lines such as arterial lines, Cordis/STCVC, pAC, TDC, TPM wires, PICC, non-VAT blood draws, CRRT, Flexiseal, and pumps including PCA, Medication and Tube Feeding. They have LVADs, ECMO machines and take care of ALL ages from the newborn to the elderly. The MICU is also quite an impressive area, as are all the other ICUS. Plus, you can't beat the top notch nurses in the ER.

Sorry everyone but it's true...there's a reason why long term care nurses/rehab nurses are paid less than others.

This was clearly posted to get a rise out of people, but I'll bite. Ha.

The nurses at the long term care facility near me get slightly higher pay and better benefits than I'll be getting in acute care.

Not everyone wants to work in acute care.

I'm glad that not everyone wants to work in acute care, because patients/residents in long term care deserve a nurse who doesn't look at them as bottom-of-the-barrel patients.

Specializes in EMS, LTC, Sub-acute Rehab.

I'm going to assume you're just trolling. Anyone who has been a nurse at an LTC for day knows it's all about basic nursing skills and patient care. If you can't do those little things well, you sure can't do the high-speed, split second, life or death decisions some of these other specialties encounter everyday.

Personally, I've never seen an LTC that was properly staffed and budgeted with supplies. Which essentially means you're making chicken salad out of chicken ***** everyday while running the gauntlet. Because of this, LTC has made me more efficient and innovative. While wound care, cleaning butts, slinging pills, dealing with families of these frail and forgotten Geri's doesn't requires a lot of technical knowledge, it does require a helluva a lot of heart and compassion.

Maybe you should be focusing on how to better advocate and serve your patients instead of your own personal interests. If your not being challenged, look around for things you can do to challenge yourself. Fix the problem, not the blame.

I don't understand why someone with a BSN would work LTC unless it was a DON/ADON position. BTW, LTC nursing pay is low because of the value our society places on the elderly not the skill set involved with their care.

Specializes in ED, psych.
This was clearly posted to get a rise out of people, but I'll bite. Ha.

The nurses at the long term care facility near me get slightly higher pay and better benefits than I'll be getting in acute care.

Not everyone wants to work in acute care.

I'm glad that not everyone wants to work in acute care, because patients/residents in long term care deserve a nurse who doesn't look at them as bottom-of-the-barrel patients.

I truly like how you said this: "patients/residents in long term care deserve a nurse who doesn't look at them as bottom-of-the-barrel patients." Nicely stated.

I'm not so sure the post was meant to get a rise out of people. If I'm thinking back correctly, I think the OP made a similar post about a year ago; it took almost an entire year to go away, despite her taking back some of the things she had originally posted (correct me if I'm wrong, OP). It got pretty nasty if I'm remembering right.

Purple gal: I saw another post you made this AM about moving up to the world of ICU. If that is where your heart belongs, start trying to work your way there. However, I can see where this thread could be seen as inflammatory to those working in LTC as well and honestly, I'm not sure I see the point of it. Calling another speciality area as "lame," despite you working in said area, is pretty disrespectful to those working in it.

I couldn't do what my husband does (NICU); I'd be terrible at it, tearing up constantly. He couldn't do psych; he'd be too frustrated. I can't do peds, while my other friend in psych can't do adults and can ONLY do peds. I enjoy med surg, and would probably lose it in any ICU. God bless you all who do LTC; my time management skills are no way as good. School nursing? Nope nope nope, I'd probably get myself fired mouthing off to a parent, teacher (and I used to be one!), administration, or all of the above. I actually look at school nurses as angels with fiery swords, bless them.

If you're the poster I'm thinking of, be prepared for several more months of frustrated posters. And this time? You kinda deserve it.

Specializes in LTC, Rehab.
I truly like how you said this: "patients/residents in long term care deserve a nurse who doesn't look at them as bottom-of-the-barrel patients." Nicely stated.

I like it too. My patients are MY PATIENTS - they're not better or worse than anyone else needing care. I'm not perfect by any means, but I do the best I can for them.

Specializes in CMSRN, hospice.

Let's be honest: ALL of what we do is important. From the hospital to LTC to clinics to homes to everywhere in between. We are all doing something people need to thrive, whether we see it as glamorous or not. It can be hard sometimes to look at a job you've been in for a while and see its importance, I totally get that. But we are all meeting a need with what we do.

I can completely understand being disenchanted with the tasks that go into a particular job. It's okay to get bored and want to learn new skills, stretch your brain, and try something different. So do that! No need for public scorn of an entire area of nursing. :rolleyes:

Specializes in ICU.

Also echoing again everyone else about doing things that are "important" or whatever - I think what you do as a LTC nurse might just be way more important than what I do. Last week, I had several of my patients die on my shift. I willingly participated in tying them down and helping with invasive procedures where they got poked with scalpels, trocars, what the hell ever else, just so they could die anyway because they were too sick to have all of that stuff done to begin with - so I helped ensure their last few hours were absolutely jam packed with misery and suffering.

At least you're taking care of living people who might live a long time, and you're making their lives and health better. Half the dang time, I can't say the same. I literally just participate in torturing people right up until the moment they die, many of them against their wishes because their families rescind their DNRs when things start to go south. If you think participating in torture is glamorous, sure - come work with me. Most people don't last a year on my unit because of the moral distress that comes along with causing a lot of pain and suffering for some nebulous potential "good" that doesn't pan out in the end.

So, in light of the fact that at least half of my job is causing pain and suffering for old terminally ill people just to please some relative three states away that won't even come to see the patient... ICU nursing is lame.

I work in one of those super high acuity areas, and let me tell you... I could never do what you do. I would be ready to throw myself off a bridge having to take care of 20 patients. I hit almost basket case level when I have three. Props to you for succeeding where I would fail!

Well, to be fair, my first assignment alone was 8 patients, and then it's just gradually increased. I'm honestly not sure how I would have done if my initial load had been the 20+ patients I have now.

You're the one who picked to work long term care so I fail to see the point of you calling your own choice "lame". Be an adult and get another job if you don't like your current one instead of whining about how lame and dumb it is. Usually I find that those who do a lot of complaining are the ones who tend to be inadequate at performing the very job they're complaining about.

I didn't exactly pick long term care/rehab. I fell into it after my 3 month orientation on a cardiac surgery PCU was not successful and could not get placed anywhere else except in the ECG department.

I work in the level 1 trauma/neuro ICU and i think your understanding of what we do is unrealistically high.

Yes we do things like sedations, intubations, extubations, lines, machines....etc but these things just all become routine overtime, just like what you're describing. In fact there are many nights when my patients will have NONE of these things.

Also would like to point out all the things you described we do in the ICU as well. If you're hoping to get away from blood sugars, tube feedings, and wound changed this is not the place lol.

There will soon be a point in your ICU career where you walk in a room and aren't wow-ed by an ET tube or an art line. When i first learned CRRT I was SOOO pumped to do it, but now i'd rather just take regular patients than a crrt patient :yawn:

work is work wherever you go, but it's up to you whether or not to make it an enjoyable experience.

I'm not sure any of that would ever become routine for me because I'm just overwhelmed reading through the list of skills these units do. Whenever I perform an ECG on these patients, I'm amazed that these nurses are able to keep everything straight, making decisions while working with all of this equipment. Also, I'm not looking to avoid blood sugars, tube feedings and wounds at all...I'm just impressed with the vast amount of skills these nurses have. I'm a bit envious because technical skills like this aren't my strength at all.

The only thing lame about long term nursing, is the OP of this absurd post. Everything you listed you do, is also done in my part of the ER. Stop acting as if long term care is the lowest of the low in nursing. Frankly, if you are wanting to be wowed on the job, I don't think nursing is for you and I think you truly should reflect on what drivel you have written here. I am sure you admins would love to hear how you think that kind of nursing is lame, as well as the family of those you are tending to. If I were hiring in hospitals, I would refuse to hire you. There will be days that boring repetitive tasks are done....but they are vital for care. If you cannot see how important they are and want to be wowed, turn on the hospital dramas and get the heck out of nursing. Lame is not even the word for you!

I'm going to assume you're just trolling. Anyone who has been a nurse at an LTC for day knows it's all about basic nursing skills and patient care. If you can't do those little things well, you sure can't do the high-speed, split second, life or death decisions some of these other specialties encounter everyday.

Personally, I've never seen an LTC that was properly staffed and budgeted with supplies. Which essentially means you're making chicken salad out of chicken ***** everyday while running the gauntlet. Because of this, LTC has made me more efficient and innovative. While wound care, cleaning butts, slinging pills, dealing with families of these frail and forgotten Geri's doesn't requires a lot of technical knowledge, it does require a helluva a lot of heart and compassion.

Maybe you should be focusing on how to better advocate and serve your patients instead of your own personal interests. If your not being challenged, look around for things you can do to challenge yourself. Fix the problem, not the blame.

I don't understand why someone with a BSN would work LTC unless it was a DON/ADON position. BTW, LTC nursing pay is low because of the value our society places on the elderly not the skill set involved with their care.

You are right about having to be innovative. We, too, are often out of the specific supplies we're supposed to use, so we have to make do with what we have. And yes, you do have to be compassionate to work with these people, which is generally more of my strength than any technical skill. Also we're always getting patients with different needs that require learning new skills anyway, so there is the occasional challenge in that way, but definitely not everyday (which is probably why I do well there, I'm not being bombarded with tons of skills to learn).

As far as being a nurse with a BSN who is also working in LTC, I will say that getting my BSN did not improve my ability to be a nurse. My associate's degree was where I learned my nursing skills. For me, all my BSN degree indicates is that I went to school for an extra year and got extra exposure to public health and research; that is all. There are LPNs where I work that are better nurses than myself, so the degree really has nothing to do with it.

I truly like how you said this: "patients/residents in long term care deserve a nurse who doesn't look at them as bottom-of-the-barrel patients." Nicely stated.

I'm not so sure the post was meant to get a rise out of people. If I'm thinking back correctly, I think the OP made a similar post about a year ago; it took almost an entire year to go away, despite her taking back some of the things she had originally posted (correct me if I'm wrong, OP). It got pretty nasty if I'm remembering right.

Purple gal: I saw another post you made this AM about moving up to the world of ICU. If that is where your heart belongs, start trying to work your way there. However, I can see where this thread could be seen as inflammatory to those working in LTC as well and honestly, I'm not sure I see the point of it. Calling another speciality area as "lame," despite you working in said area, is pretty disrespectful to those working in it.

I couldn't do what my husband does (NICU); I'd be terrible at it, tearing up constantly. He couldn't do psych; he'd be too frustrated. I can't do peds, while my other friend in psych can't do adults and can ONLY do peds. I enjoy med surg, and would probably lose it in any ICU. God bless you all who do LTC; my time management skills are no way as good. School nursing? Nope nope nope, I'd probably get myself fired mouthing off to a parent, teacher (and I used to be one!), administration, or all of the above. I actually look at school nurses as angels with fiery swords, bless them.

If you're the poster I'm thinking of, be prepared for several more months of frustrated posters. And this time? You kinda deserve it.

Problem is, is where someone desires to work and where they can actually work and thrive are sometimes very different places. In my case, even though I would love to work in one of the ICUs, it's probably not going to be the best fit. I'm very intelligent and work well with patients, but I'm not technically inclined or manually inclined. Hands-on skills that require a lot of dexterity are not my strength. My personality is also not well suited for high acuity areas. While I'm very detail oriented at the job I have right now, I'm not anal enough when under pressure. I can handle emergent situations every once in awhile, but don't enjoy them day to day. So even though I would LOVE to call myself an ICU nurse, it doesn't appear to be in my nature. But if I were the right person, that's where I would go.

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