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Licensed Nurse or Vet Nurse (tech)

Interesting Story to share. I had a problem with a veterinarian who would referred to his staff as nurses. This struck me as odd, especially with the level of care they were being allowed to perform...at their homes. I spoke with the local Veterinary Association and was told that RN cannot be used by anyone unless the are licensed to their states codes. Vet tech shouldn't be referred as nurse, but the Nursing Board really doesn't do anything about it. Well, i checked with the Nursing Board. Their response was ABSOLUTELY not. It is against the law, it is not tolerated and it needs to be reported if ever encountered. Needless to say, the vet received a Cease and Desist letter shortly from the Nursing Board.

klone, MSN, RN

Specializes in Women's Health/OB Leadership.

was told that RN cannot be used by anyone unless the are licensed to their states codes. Vet tech shouldn't be referred as nurse, but the Nursing Board really doesn't do anything about it.

You were told that they could not use *RN* or *nurse*?

In other countries, it's normal to call vet techs nurses.

Yes Ma'am you are correct, it was nurse. this is the exact wording told to me "This rule further states that “no other person may use, titles or abbreviations with the word “nurse” such as office nurse, staff nurse, head nurse, charge nurse, school nurse, supervisor of nursing or nurses, or any other title tending to imply to the public that the person holds a license to practice nursing"

But here, its against the law apparently

klone, MSN, RN

Specializes in Women's Health/OB Leadership.

Okay, so are you going to do something about it?

FWIW, I object to using "nurse" to describe CNAs or MAs. When it comes to vet medicine, I really don't care as much, personally.

yes I am. its a very sad story, but not appropriate to go into detail in this forum. But this place definitely has poor leadership. i had found pictures on a tech's personal facebook page of my pets actual surgery, x-ray images, and post op handling.

I truly believe like any place regardless of location or species, your staff (especially the young ones) reflect the leadership they have to follow as an example.

Here.I.Stand, BSN, RN

Specializes in SICU, trauma, neuro.

I agree; they haven't passed the NCLEX (NCLEX-VN?? Doesn't exist), don't answer to a BON. As far as I know, they are technicians and don't use anything like a nursing process. In my state too, it is illegal to use the title "nurse"--yes, the word "nurse"--unless they're an RN, LPN, or APRN.

I think a big part of the issue comes from the perception that nurses assist the doctors. A vet tech assists the DVM. Therefore, some think it's reasonable to call them a veterinary nurse. I don't agree with it though, any more than a human PCT should be able to call themselves a nurse.

klone--the OP did, s/he contacted the BON which sent a cease and desist letter.

Its a very touchy topic. I agree they are highly skilled group of people but a common response from that group is that they do more than a nurse and skilled in more areas than the avgerage RN. It alway seemed pretentious

Its a very touchy topic. I agree they are highly skilled group of people but a common response from that group is that they do more than a nurse and skilled in more areas than the avgerage RN. It alway seemed pretentious

Much like some CNAs, MAs and "office nurses" who are also not nurses, people who have no actual nursing education (and therefore no license to practice nursing) are always pretty fast to tell you how much LIKE a nurse they are....or, even "better than a nurse".

Ummm......sure.:sarcastic:

I'd have no interest in getting into a pivving contest with someone who refers to herself as a Vet Nurse, as let's face it: they aren't going to be confused with ME at any point when they're in the hospital visiting someone, right?

Well said. We are all proud of our expertise, we should be. but I have a feeling it was the doctor more than the vet techs who felt the title "technician" wasnt good enough.

Well said. We are all proud of our expertise, we should be. but I have a feeling it was the doctor more than the vet techs who felt the title "technician" wasnt good enough.

Are they caring for animals, medicating, them and nursing them back to health? Then in the doctor's eyes they are his nurses.

mmc51264, ADN, BSN, MSN, RN

Specializes in orthopedic; Informatics, diabetes.

I worked as a vet tech and I was never called a nurse. I was called assistant, helper, aide. I had a lot more autonomy because it is animals, but I ran anesthesia, drew blood, gave fluids and IV meds. Much larger scope of practice. Obviously because it was horses, (sometimes cows, sheep, goats, ostriches) The funny part is that the medicine is not all that different. And in horses, the anatomy is very similar-except horses don't have gall bladders.

I think the word "nurse" is so associated with the human medicine, it's kinda weird to call a vet tech a "nurse"

Medicating...I hope not (unless under DIRECT supervision of a DVM). Vaccinating, I hope not under any circumestance. Caring and nursing back to health yes. I guess what is significant is regardless of what anyone feels or thinks, a vet cannot identify his staff as nurses because its the law.

klone, MSN, RN

Specializes in Women's Health/OB Leadership.

Vaccinating, I hope not under any circumestance.

Why? An MA can do it on a child or adult, but you don't think a vet tech is capable?

In many states, owners can buy vaccines directly and administer them, themselves, to their pets. But you don't think a trained vet tech should be able to?

And i bet you were good at your job, intelligent, and compassionate. You are probably responsible for saving countless lives for many pets. Just based upone my observation, i truly believe it was the doctor who felt the word Tech was somehow deficient, or even made them feel deficient of the title.

klone, MSN, RN

Specializes in Women's Health/OB Leadership.

And i bet you were good at your job, intelligent, and compassionate. You are probably responsible for saving countless lives for many pets. Just based upone my observation, i truly believe it was the doctor who felt the word Tech was somehow deficient, or even made them feel deficient of the title.

Is this directed at me? Nevermind, I see you are talking to MMC

let me clairfy, they are capable but legally not allowed to vaccinate in my state

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