Lessons Learned - Choose Your School Wisely

I wanted to share some insight and knowledge I've learned since beginning my nursing program in 2010. I'm sharing this story so that other nursing students can be better prepared when choosing a school. Do your homework so you don't have to withdraw 4 weeks prior to graduation. Nurses Announcements Archive Article

Do a lot of research before choosing which school you would like to attend. If possible, interview the head of nursing. Review the textbooks they are using and ask where the questions for their test are obtained. Ask if they rewrite the questions they use or if the questions are verbatim since NCLEX style question are thoroughly researched.

Talk to students already in the program and get a perspective on the teaching styles of the instructors, the flow of a semester, etc. I realize we're all in a hurry to get accepted into a program and most of us will take what we get. By doing your research ahead of time you'll be confident that you're not wasting your money, time spent away from family and friends and sanity.

I say all this because I just dropped out of nursing school 4 weeks before graduation. The straw that broke the camels back? Four weeks before graduation I was told I couldn't graduate because I hadn't completed a basic English class. The fact is I did complete the class on my first go around in college.

The class fell through the cracks during admissions and when I provided proof of completion, with transcripts, the credit was not accepted. I followed the chain of command all the way to the president of the school and was given the same response at each level. I attempted to offer evidence based research papers as work already complete (made a 97 or greater on all papers) and they were not acknowledged. I felt as though I had no advocate and was defeated that the powers that be wouldn't help in some fashion.

I had to fight to stay in a program that I was paying for out of my pocket.

Anyway, I began the program and after two weeks was separated from my husband. I had to find somewhere for me and my daughter to live. We moved in with a girlfriend from school, was there two months then moved into an apartment.

For the next six months I fought through a bitter divorce.

Life changing event #1: I maintained my grades and was still able to work. The second blow came after a major rotator cuff surgery last May. I missed two days of school because I hurt so bad I couldn't dress myself. The third day I was late for clinical, again a challenge with dressing with one arm. I followed school protocol and called my instructor to let her know I would be late.

I called multiple times without an answer from her. When I arrived to the site she stated she hadn't received any calls from me, belittled me in front of my classmates, then sent me home. This pushed me over the hours allotted to miss for the semester and I was kicked out of the program. I was written up and kicked out of the program. Later in the day I was reinstated. The following day the instructor apologized and stated she acted inappropriately. Unfortunately that wouldn't undo the damage already done to my record.

Life changing event #2: The math competency test. The first one I failed and the second go around I made an 89. You have to make a 90 to pass. The head of nursing would make no exceptions and stated I would be kicked out of the program. I went to the director of nursing with evidence that we were not consistently tested on the math and with each test the rules changed. The instructors did not follow the math rules outlined in our math book. I ended up having to go to the dean and was able to retest. The curriculum was changed as a result of this and now math is reinforced in exams and reviewed prior to testing. I was allowed to retest and was successful.

The straw that broke the camels back for me was the unwillingness to accept a class I had completed at another college, for credit to graduate. Nursing students shouldn't have to fight this hard to stay in a program. It's hard enough without all the pitfalls.

Also, find out what grading scale your college of choice is on. The one I attended used a 7 point grading scale. The colleges around them, offering the same program, uses a 10 point grading scale.

learn to take responsibilities, b accountable n know also that there is more to life than just giving xcuses, we all have excuses to make but wise people pocket theirs. be realistic and accept life the way it is

Specializes in SNF.

it must've been really hard for you to go through a divorce and have a child to take care of. kudos to you for managing to pass! It sounds to me as if you were able to take that one class that you still had to, right??

well, I graduated from a school that wasn't so tough compared to others with 100% NCLEX passing rates! the math competency test was considered pass with 85% and you had three tries!

I think that I am a critical thinker and a good nurse nonetheless, so maybe it depends on the individual and how ready he/she is to actually study!

I say all this because I just dropped out of nursing school 4 weeks before graduation. The straw that broke the camels back? Four weeks before graduation I was told I couldn't graduate because I hadn't completed a basic English class. The fact is I did complete the class on my first go around in college.

The straw that broke the camels back for me was the unwillingness to accept a class I had completed at another college, for credit to graduate. Nursing students shouldn't have to fight this hard to stay in a program. It's hard enough without all the pitfalls.

Colleges are under no obligation to accept credit from any other institution. Every university has policies/rules about this. There are very few colleges which just accept anything you want to throw at them from any other institution.

It's very hard to feel sympathy for someone who would do something so short sighted (and frankly, foolish) as to drop out of a nursing program four weeks from completion over one disputed class credit.

I also agree with others that your personal issues, while certainly unfortunate, are completely irrelevant to the core issues you bring up. Many others have completed their programs successfully while facing similar or even worse challenges than you.

Finally, nursing schools have very rigid standards with regard to math tests for a reason. It would be completely unacceptable to get your calculations correct only 90% of the time out in the field. Nursing math is very basic. I'm not a math person and found it to be ridiculously easy. The difficulty level falls at about junior high school level. Anyone who cannot consistently do next to perfect on nursing math exams doesn't need to be calculating drug doses in the real world of nursing.

We are only hearing one side of this story. I have a feeling that the version we are not hearing would probably be very enlightening.

I am very sorry for all the trouble that nursing school puts us through. I have had my situation with it and it even involved my husband and his insecurities with nursing school. We fought alot and I failed a class twice, got pregnant and got letters of suspension. But all in all I decided to attend a community college, graduate and eventually sat for the nclex in practical nursing. I have been an lpn for 3 years for a hospital. It feels weird to know that all my buddies in the BSN program are all charge nurses or working on their masters. For me it was a lesson that made me appreciate nursing even more and work harder. The nursing school I left wants me to return to complete my bsn. I will eventually return when the time is right but that is another story.
Specializes in Pediatrics.

I have to say, I'm impressed to see that for the most part, people are taking this story with a grain of salt. One of the things that often leaves me bewildered with this site, is when people believe everything they hear. It happens in real life too, when I hear other students saying "Did you hear Jane failed just because she couldn't take a BP". Well, that's the only part that Jane is willing to tell everyone about. it's also possible that Jane did not understand or comprehend the warning signs (the things that led up to the BP being the thing that kicked her out).

The OP has not returned to answer the many questions that were posed since her article. Hopefully she is reading this, and is gaining some better perspective. Her school, to me, sounds like a typical nursing school, that attempts to adhere to the policies set forth (regarding attendance, lateness, med math testing policies, and criteria for transfer of credits). Regarding the personal obstacles she faced while in school: this is what happens when grown-ups go to school: life gets in the way. Honestly, I could start a thread asking what happened in your personal life while going through NS, and I bet every member could write a reply. Birth, death, marraige, divorce, losing a job, starting a job, illness, domestic violence, taking care of loved ones, and the list goes on and on. It's called life. If faculty made allowances for every person who had some sort of situation, there would be no standing rules left. No one wants to hear that thry should take a break, that maybe they need a semester off to get things in order. Nope, they're going to press on, fail, and blame the school. It can't possibly be their own fault!

And, regarding the title of the article: how many of you have actually gone from cover to cover of a schools policy/handbook and said "I'm not going to this school b/c of their med math policy" (or something simliar)? Let's face it, you go where you get in, and/or where you can afford to go.

ProfRN4, you are 200% correct! I was told during information sessions that if you have a personal life (and we all do) to be prepared for it to be turned upside down and tossed aside Day 1 of Nursing School. Life happens, but YOU chose this journey so it's your mission to succeed or throw in the towel. But you cannot blame a school for not wanting to change their policies just so one person can graduate with the others they did not have to change their policies for.

In regards to researching schools, YES we should all do research programs instead of just applying and praying for an admissions interview. I did my homework (attended info sessions, checked pre-reqs, even read majority of their handbooks), was accepted to all three programs, but chose the one where I felt most comfortable. I'm excited, yet nervous but overall I know I made the best choice for my future and I am going to put every ounce of my self into being a success.

Specializes in ICU + Infection Prevention.
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Any time a poster makes a hit and run post like this, I begin to wonder if the whole story was manufactured...

Specializes in Med-Surg/urology.
Any time a poster makes a hit and run post like this, I begin to wonder if the whole story was manufactured...

I think she got upset b/c she didn't get the response she was looking for: sympathy.

Specializes in Cardio-Pulmonary; Med-Surg; Private Duty.
I think she got upset b/c she didn't get the response she was looking for: sympathy.

Special Suzy Snowflakes don't much appreciate seeing the cold hard truth.... ;)

Specializes in Ortho Med\Surg.

90% on a med math test? Really? In my program it was 100%, no exceptions.....

Specializes in Cardio-Pulmonary; Med-Surg; Private Duty.
90% on a med math test? Really? In my program it was 100%, no exceptions.....

But we're only human, we should be allowed to make med errors 10% of the time, right???? :rolleyes:

(Seriously, is there any chance of me getting an honorary "Biter Crusty Old Bats Club" membership even though I'm still a student nurse? LOL)