Lessons Learned - Choose Your School Wisely

I wanted to share some insight and knowledge I've learned since beginning my nursing program in 2010. I'm sharing this story so that other nursing students can be better prepared when choosing a school. Do your homework so you don't have to withdraw 4 weeks prior to graduation. Nurses Announcements Archive Article

Do a lot of research before choosing which school you would like to attend. If possible, interview the head of nursing. Review the textbooks they are using and ask where the questions for their test are obtained. Ask if they rewrite the questions they use or if the questions are verbatim since NCLEX style question are thoroughly researched.

Talk to students already in the program and get a perspective on the teaching styles of the instructors, the flow of a semester, etc. I realize we're all in a hurry to get accepted into a program and most of us will take what we get. By doing your research ahead of time you'll be confident that you're not wasting your money, time spent away from family and friends and sanity.

I say all this because I just dropped out of nursing school 4 weeks before graduation. The straw that broke the camels back? Four weeks before graduation I was told I couldn't graduate because I hadn't completed a basic English class. The fact is I did complete the class on my first go around in college.

The class fell through the cracks during admissions and when I provided proof of completion, with transcripts, the credit was not accepted. I followed the chain of command all the way to the president of the school and was given the same response at each level. I attempted to offer evidence based research papers as work already complete (made a 97 or greater on all papers) and they were not acknowledged. I felt as though I had no advocate and was defeated that the powers that be wouldn't help in some fashion.

I had to fight to stay in a program that I was paying for out of my pocket.

Anyway, I began the program and after two weeks was separated from my husband. I had to find somewhere for me and my daughter to live. We moved in with a girlfriend from school, was there two months then moved into an apartment.

For the next six months I fought through a bitter divorce.

Life changing event #1: I maintained my grades and was still able to work. The second blow came after a major rotator cuff surgery last May. I missed two days of school because I hurt so bad I couldn't dress myself. The third day I was late for clinical, again a challenge with dressing with one arm. I followed school protocol and called my instructor to let her know I would be late.

I called multiple times without an answer from her. When I arrived to the site she stated she hadn't received any calls from me, belittled me in front of my classmates, then sent me home. This pushed me over the hours allotted to miss for the semester and I was kicked out of the program. I was written up and kicked out of the program. Later in the day I was reinstated. The following day the instructor apologized and stated she acted inappropriately. Unfortunately that wouldn't undo the damage already done to my record.

Life changing event #2: The math competency test. The first one I failed and the second go around I made an 89. You have to make a 90 to pass. The head of nursing would make no exceptions and stated I would be kicked out of the program. I went to the director of nursing with evidence that we were not consistently tested on the math and with each test the rules changed. The instructors did not follow the math rules outlined in our math book. I ended up having to go to the dean and was able to retest. The curriculum was changed as a result of this and now math is reinforced in exams and reviewed prior to testing. I was allowed to retest and was successful.

The straw that broke the camels back for me was the unwillingness to accept a class I had completed at another college, for credit to graduate. Nursing students shouldn't have to fight this hard to stay in a program. It's hard enough without all the pitfalls.

Also, find out what grading scale your college of choice is on. The one I attended used a 7 point grading scale. The colleges around them, offering the same program, uses a 10 point grading scale.

ixchel said..go get your seat back... Will a school let you come back after you quit? I bet your right, they would as long as you hadn't "officially" dropped and, aren't most clinicals done at this time? Four weeks before graduation? Trailblazer, you need to think about this.

If there is ANYWAY you can go back...DO IT! You will be so glad you did Trailblazer!

I just graduated from RSU and I will admit the program was a nightmare. Everything that you have posted has happened during our last semester. Not to me personally but to a few other students. Doing research on a college before you apply is a good idea but you also have to look at the statistics for their pass rates for the NCLEX as well. I went to RSU because they had a 97% pass rate for the NCLEX. When I graduated I wanted to know what I was doing. Yes our grading scale was not the same as the 10 point scale. That was to make sure that they were not turning out people who would not pass the NCLEX and would provide SAFE patient care. There were NO exceptions made for us. If we didn't cut it we didn't cut it. We lost a significant number of students through the 2 year program. Like you I had multiple different problems and life events such as being hospitalized 3 separate times during the 2 years. NOT ONE time did I request that an exception be made on my behalf. I completed my makeup work and continued on. I refused to give up. The students that were denied graduation because of "missing" courses fought to the bitter end until they were approved for graduation. You pick up the pieces and continue on if that is the career path that you choose.

Do a lot of research before choosing which school you would like to attend. If possible, interview the head of nursing. Review the textbooks they are using and ask where the questions for their test are obtained. Ask if they rewrite the questions they use or if the questions are verbatim since NCLEX style question are thoroughly researched.

Talk to students already in the program and get a perspective on the teaching styles of the instructors, the flow of a semester, etc. I realize we're all in a hurry to get accepted into a program and most of us will take what we get. By doing your research ahead of time you'll be confident that you're not wasting your money, time spent away from family and friends and sanity.

I say all this because I just dropped out of nursing school 4 weeks before graduation. The straw that broke the camels back? Four weeks before graduation I was told I couldn't graduate because I hadn't completed a basic English class. The fact is I did complete the class on my first go around in college.

The class fell through the cracks during admissions and when I provided proof of completion, with transcripts, the credit was not accepted. I followed the chain of command all the way to the president of the school and was given the same response at each level. I attempted to offer evidence based research papers as work already complete (made a 97 or greater on all papers) and they were not acknowledged. I felt as though I had no advocate and was defeated that the powers that be wouldn't help in some fashion.

I had to fight to stay in a program that I was paying for out of my pocket.

Anyway, I began the program and after two weeks was separated from my husband. I had to find somewhere for me and my daughter to live. We moved in with a girlfriend from school, was there two months then moved into an apartment.

For the next six months I fought through a bitter divorce.

Life changing event #1: I maintained my grades and was still able to work. The second blow came after a major rotator cuff surgery last May. I missed two days of school because I hurt so bad I couldn't dress myself. The third day I was late for clinical, again a challenge with dressing with one arm. I followed school protocol and called my instructor to let her know I would be late.

I called multiple times without an answer from her. When I arrived to the site she stated she hadn't received any calls from me, belittled me in front of my classmates, then sent me home. This pushed me over the hours allotted to miss for the semester and I was kicked out of the program. I was written up and kicked out of the program. Later in the day I was reinstated. The following day the instructor apologized and stated she acted inappropriately. Unfortunately that wouldn't undo the damage already done to my record.

Life changing event #2: The math competency test. The first one I failed and the second go around I made an 89. You have to make a 90 to pass. The head of nursing would make no exceptions and stated I would be kicked out of the program. I went to the director of nursing with evidence that we were not consistently tested on the math and with each test the rules changed. The instructors did not follow the math rules outlined in our math book. I ended up having to go to the dean and was able to retest. The curriculum was changed as a result of this and now math is reinforced in exams and reviewed prior to testing. I was allowed to retest and was successful.

The straw that broke the camels back for me was the unwillingness to accept a class I had completed at another college, for credit to graduate. Nursing students shouldn't have to fight this hard to stay in a program. It's hard enough without all the pitfalls.

Also, find out what grading scale your college of choice is on. The one I attended used a 7 point grading scale. The colleges around them, offering the same program, uses a 10 point grading scale.

Please don't ever come work with me. All excuses are poor excuses. Buck up and stop blaming everyone and anything for all your problems.

Specializes in critical care.
ixchel said..go get your seat back... Will a school let you come back after you quit? !

I have no idea, but at this point, I wouldn't be above begging and bribery with baked goods to get back in. 4 weeks! It's crazy! I'd seriously beg, beg, beg, and blame it on an overly emotional lack of judgment. I think the OP of this thread had a significant amount of drama, and it makes me question a lot about their competence in general, but that doesn't change the fact that I just KNOW they're going to be filled with an inescapable amount of regret if they don't do anything they possibly can to get back in.

Specializes in School Nursing.

I want to add that when we first were assigned advisors (before classes even started) the advisors emphisized the need to go over our transcripts every semester to make sure we were on tract with no 'surprise' classes jumping up before graduation. Apparently this isn't a rare thing, classes fall through the cracks and it is important to know about them EARLY so you can squeeze them in during a break. Blaming the school does no good. It really is your responsibillity to make sure you have everything you need.

Specializes in Forensic Psych.
I want to add that when we first were assigned advisors (before classes even started) the advisors emphisized the need to go over our transcripts every semester to make sure we were on tract with no 'surprise' classes jumping up before graduation. Apparently this isn't a rare thing, classes fall through the cracks and it is important to know about them EARLY so you can squeeze them in during a break. Blaming the school does no good. It really is your responsibillity to make sure you have everything you need.

At orientation last night, we were all handed out forms from our advisers where they has written any class that we still had outstanding that was required for graduation, as well as the date it needed to be completed by. So we literally have ZERO excuses.

But the reality is, that doesn't reduce our responsibility. If our adviser made a mistake and forgot something, no one is going to say, eh, just forget it and graduate without it! Things fall through the cracks, and it sucks, but in the end we as students are the ones with a career at stake. We need to make SURE nothing falls through!

Specializes in Med-Surg/urology.
I want to add that when we first were assigned advisors (before classes even started) the advisors emphisized the need to go over our transcripts every semester to make sure we were on tract with no 'surprise' classes jumping up before graduation. Apparently this isn't a rare thing, classes fall through the cracks and it is important to know about them EARLY so you can squeeze them in during a break. Blaming the school does no good. It really is your responsibillity to make sure you have everything you need.

Yes, I completely agree. Sometimes, schools can be quite disorganized. As students (and nurses!) we have to advocate for ourselves.

Specializes in ICU + Infection Prevention.

I had a A+ in AP Chemistry in high school and a 5 on the AP exam and then took Engineering Chemistry II at a state engineering school with a B+.

My BSN program demanded that I take another college chemistry course because I couldn't produce proof that any of my chemistry credits had a lab component (which they most certainly did).

I appealed.

The appeal failed.

I retook Chemistry 202 at a community college and got an A+.

They let me into the program.

Take your English course and do it at a college with regional academic accreditation.

Just know you did EVERYTHING you could before you walk away.

@Julielive...what incredible words of advice for a woman distraught as Trailblazer. You have an amazing innate ability to comfort a hurt individual. I have no doubt in my mind that you are an outstanding nurse. Lucky are the patients who pas through your care. In no time trailblazer will be comforting another distraught student juggling nursing chool and life problems.

@Trailblazer...take this as your journey to your goal post. No success comes without trilas and tribulations. All these people who are quick to 'name call' and juge you don't have the slightest clue of the difficulty you are going through. No matter what the real story is, whether you are to blame or the school, take this as a growing experience that will better prepare you for the career out there waiting for you. My advise is to bite the tongue, explore all options and give your dream another shot. Keep your candle light burning and focus on your goal. Once you graduate & go ahead to obtain your license, it won't have FAILED NURSING SCHOOL AND HAD TO RETAKE ENGLISH. It will just have your name and your title, RN. And you would appreciate it so much cause only you would know the height of your hurdles. Perhaps take this time to step and reflect, and come back with more strength.

Goodluck to you and wishing you nothing but the best in your dreams and future goals!

@Julielive...what incredible words of advice for a woman distraught as Trailblazer. You have an amazing innate ability to comfort a hurt individual. I have no doubt in my mind that you are an outstanding nurse. Lucky are the patients who pas through your care. In no time trailblazer will be comforting another distraught student juggling nursing school and life problems.

What a beautiful compliment!!! Thank you so much, Dark Beauty! It really speaks volumes when someone takes the time in their busy day to lift someone else up like you did.

Again, much appreciated! I really hope Trailblazer reads your words too...MUCH can be gained through your wisdom and kindness.

so sorry, here in nigeria we have no such policies, but the system is structured that b4 u pass u r really qualified, accept my sincere concern