Leaving HPRP-Work Suggestions?

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I’ve been in HPRP for 7 weeks and have decided to quit this so-called non-disciplinary (per HPRP), free-of-charge (per LARA website...of course that doesn’t include all the testing fees and therapists’ fees) “program”. I got into it completely by mistake: in trying to find a therapist to help me thru many stressors in my life, I called the HPRP phone number, admitted I drank 4-5 times a week, and got sucked into the system. I’d never heard of HPRP before. I contacted a lawyer before signing the monitoring agreement, but he basically said to me, “Once HPRP has their claws in you, you can’t get out.” My life has been horrible since “joining”/being a “participant” in this “program”....stressed, angry and depressed over the cost, time, and feeling demoralized. I don’t need this, and it’s not worth it to me to retain my license. So, I’m getting out of HPRP. I’m a new nurse but I’m older, and I know my license will be suspended. So my question is...Does anyone know or have suggestions on what kind of work I will be able to do? Will I be able to be a caregiver or a nursing assistant? Thanks for your replies.

Specializes in CRNA, Finally retired.

Be very careful before investing money in a patient care career.  Check your state education department to find out what jobs are licensed by the state and if a black mark in one licensed career will prevent you from working in another licensed career.  

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Specializes in ICU/PCU.
On 8/20/2020 at 1:39 PM, somedudeinarizona said:

You're really new to this program. Yes, it is expensive as hell! But, the saying that really pissed me off in the beginning was "it will get better", it really does. I've nearly a year into this, and a lot of restrictions will be lifted soon. I have jobs (yes, more than one) lined up once I pass narcs again. It takes a lot of discipline to attend meetings, do the testing, see a therapist. And it takes a lot of money. I wouldn't throw in the towel yet. Those feelings of demoralization, stress, anxiety, and anger will pass. Most here felt that way in the beginning. It is normal. If you have a sponsor, hopefully a good one, call them, meet with them, get some feedback from them. You spent a lot of time to be a nurse and you will be glad you stuck throw it. As a side note, I had done quite a few job interviews months ago and never brought up the monitoring stuff. Big mistake. The last few hiring managers, directors, and clinical managers that I've been interviewed by, I lead with that and each have said that it is no big deal. They have worked with monitoring before. So, it will improve.

I would like to chat if you don’t mind.  I’m on my way to sign my agreement and would like to ask a few questions.  
if you don’t mind my email is [email protected]

Thank you for your story.. it helped 

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What do you think my chances are keeping my current job if I’m placed on probation from my state BON? My issues that lead to my complaint were from my previous employer. I have since had my new job for 8 months without any issues, but at some point I will have to inform them that I have been disciplined.  

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Specializes in ICU/PCU.

I think you will have no problems. I would be honest what happened to a appropriate point.  If you want to chat feel free to reach out!

um at gracesmith@[email protected]

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Specializes in Psych, Addictions, SOL (Student of Life).

the question of if you can keep your job will depend on your stipulations. Many contracts prohibit patient care of any kind for a period of 6 months to a year. Now if you emplyer has a position that does not involve direct patient care and they like you well enough to keep you on then you answer is yes you can keep your job. If not you will have to come clean and get started so as to get it overwith and keep going.

Hppy

 

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I don’t expect to have any stipulations other than my manager would have to submit quarterly reports on my work performance and the hospital I’m at has a union, so I can not just be outright fired. I do dread however having to show them my administrative complaint and having to explain why I was so irresponsible with my wasting and charting. 

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On 9/29/2020 at 2:41 PM, KyBeagle said:

I just want to share a word of caution. If your nursing license is actually revoked, you have a much higher likelihood of being placed on the OIG’s exclusionary database. If that happens, a certificate in another healthcare related field would be worthless. You wouldn’t be able to work in any facility that accepts reimbursement  from Medicare or any state Medicaid programs- In any capacity. Even if you left the clinical aspect of healthcare, you wouldn’t be able to work in any job field (administrative assistant, secretary or even housekeeping), much less any with a certification, in a facility that accepts federal payments. That will knock out any hospitals, skilled care facilities, home health, clinics, MD offices, etc. 

I was in an ATD program but in a different state (KY). The threat of the OIG alone was enough to ensure that I followed every aspect of my 5 year program to the letter. After working in the nursing field for > 20+ years, I was to the point that healthcare seemed to be all that I knew. I had shopped around for a different job in the few months leading up to signing my agreement.  During this time I realized that the alternative jobs that I felt that I qualified for, were still in healthcare-related fields. 
 

If you’re new to nursing & have interests in other fields outside healthcare, you may have more options than I felt that I did. However, as an ATD Program graduate that’s back working FT in nursing, I’m very grateful that I stuck it out. Yes, it was very costly & definitely anxiety-ridden, for sure! But I’m back to the pay grade that I should be earning with my years  of Nsg experience in hospital nursing. 

How long was your ATD monitoring? 

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Specializes in ED RN and Case Manager.

@Questions2020 Kentucky’s Alternative to Discipline program (KARE) is a standard 5 year program.  Unlike the Disciplinary route, it remains confidential. I completed the program in 2019 & have an unencumbered license with no disciplinary actions.  

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I wish I had never gotten involved with them. They said I was unsafe to work after having one meeting, four months ago with the psychiatrist. I hate this program. How can you call my job and tell them I am unsafe to work and get away with it? It's a sham. They just want us in a monitoring program, that generates money. It's messed up. Avoid it at all cost

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Are you in HPRP?

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Specializes in Psych, Addictions, SOL (Student of Life).
On 11/10/2020 at 3:13 PM, AbbeyR said:

What do you think my chances are keeping my current job if I’m placed on probation from my state BON? My issues that lead to my complaint were from my previous employer. I have since had my new job for 8 months without any issues, but at some point I will have to inform them that I have been disciplined.  

Again this is state specific. In some cases if you are a good employee a facility may find a place for you that is not direct patient care and integrate you back in as your contract progresses. You can check with your BON to find out the terms of your contract plus they have to approve the job. But keep your chin up and know that "This to shall pass." 

Hppy

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13 hours ago, AbbeyR said:

Are you in HPRP?

Yes unfortunately

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