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Okay, it's "burnt orange". 

Seriously, I looked at an actual vial today and it isn't red.

Now my point is I asked a layperson which bottle had more red on it and they pointed to the Versed.

It looks red to me on my computer, anyone else?

The lid is orange. The label looks red to me on my computer, anyone else?

Edited Apr 9 by wondern

Maybe something on the bottles could be improved. Like in addition to saying Paralyzing Agent, STOPS BREATHING-Ambubag or Vent required. I mean really spell it out. 

1 minute ago, wondern said:

Maybe something on the bottles could be improved. Like in addition to saying Paralyzing Agent, STOPS BREATHING-Ambubag or Vent required. I mean really spell it out. 

We are trained, education, professionals. We are not lay people. This should not have to happen at all. If a registered nurse doesn't equate paralytic to no breathing then without a doubt in my mind do I think they should have a nursing license.

And ANY of those being spelled out on the bottle wouldn't have changed what RV did, because she admitted she didn't read it!

Great article, AnnieNP, MSN, NP! Thanks for posting. I've always enjoyed Medscape.

Yes , she admitted she made the mistake and didn't read the bottle either. Maybe it wouldn't have stopped her then but maybe if she'd read it on that bottle previously in her downtime at some point it may have helped or it may help someone out in the future so there's that to consider as well. All I'm trying to say is there is a lot to be looked at that could be improved. It sounds as if the hospital is on it from their very detailed improvement plan.

 

 

49 minutes ago, wondern said:

Maybe something on the bottles could be improved. Like in addition to saying Paralyzing Agent, STOPS BREATHING-Ambubag or Vent required. I mean really spell it out. 

You can't be serious.  Anybody that has finished one semester of A & P would know you can't breath with a paralyzed diaphragm.    I'm an RN student and will be in my 2nd pharmacology class soon and I sure as hell don't need a label to tell me what a "P A R A L Y T I C"  does.  How did somebody like RV ever pass the NCLEX?   

p.s.  Read the reports.  She got a warning about the pt needing to be on a vent. . she ignored it. 

Edited Apr 9 by Luchador

1 hour ago, wondern said:

Now my point is I asked a layperson which bottle had more red on it and they pointed to the Versed.

Then it’s a good thing a layperson wouldn’t be giving it. 

1 hour ago, wondern said:

The lid is orange. The label looks red to me on my computer, anyone else?

Seriously, I looked at an actual vial and it’s orange. Regardless this is the most asinine debate I’ve ever had with another professional so before I kill any more brain cells on it I’m out. 

54 minutes ago, wondern said:

Maybe something on the bottles could be improved. Like in addition to saying Paralyzing Agent, STOPS BREATHING-Ambubag or Vent required. I mean really spell it out. 

If the multiple warnings on the Accudose didn’t stop her why would words on a vial she didn’t read make a difference?

1 hour ago, AnnieNP said:

Medscape for nurses now has this on their website. I apologize if this has already been posted

 

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/911109?nlid=129198_5163&src=WNL_mdplsfeat_190409_mscpedit_diab&uac=88928EG&spon=22&impID=1932082&faf=1

Awesome article!