Langston University, Probation?

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What have you guys heard about Langston? I heard that they are on probation because of their low NCLEX pass rate.

I don't know if this is true but I was considering applying until I found that out. I don't want to go to a school with bad reputation. I want a good education. Although, just looking at the past ten years at their NCLEX first time pass rate, it's lower than most nursing schools in oklahoma and it does make me really wonder about Langston. You can see all nursing programs NCLEX pass rate here: http://www.ok.gov/nursing/nclexpass1.pdf

Anyone know anything or have any of you recently gone there. What can you say about the program?

I was originally planning to go to OU until I found out how competitive they are. I hear it's fairly easy to get into the program, especially because I have a 3.5 and pre reqs will be done. What do you think? Because besides OU, Langston is one of the only BSN programs in the state that I am very closely on track for. A lot of the others have several random classes that I would have to take in order to get into the program.

Advice is much appreciated! It's been a stressful past few months trying to figure this all out and my time is running out!

Thank you,

Nicole

Specializes in ICU.

Did someone tell you your 3.5 wouldn't be competitive at OU? Because based on their admission stats, that would put you right at the average *accepted student* GPA for the traditional BSN program in Tulsa and ABOVE average for the accepted GPA for the OKC program! I think if you want to go to OU and are wary of Langston (I haven't heard anything good or bad about them so I'm no help there), you should definitely apply at OU! What's your science GPA?

Take a look at this, if you haven't seen it yet, to get an idea of where you are:

http://nursing.ouhsc.edu/Prospective_Students/documents/2010stats_000.pdf

If 3.5 is the average overall GPA of the accepted students, then that means that at least a few students got accepted with less than a 3.5 -- what about that makes you think it's too competitve for you? Sounds to me like you're an ideal candidate, especially if you have all your pre-reqs done by time of application. :)

I'm a little biased, though, as I'm planning to go to OU-Tulsa for an accellerated BSN (*crossing fingers I get in for summer 2011*) and have been nothing but impressed with the nursing advising staff and faculty that I've met at OU-Tulsa in my application journey.

The stats speak for themselves. Honestly, I would look into TU, Rogers State (in Claremore), ORU, and of course OU (but you were already considering them!). The advisors at OU said RSU is a good school and has an excellent program. When I heard through this website that Langston was in Tulsa, I was a bit wary of it since 1) I had never heard of it before and 2) its in a somewhat scary part of town. There is always TCC, but those at OU didn't recommend it because they take on WAAAY to many students and only about 25% end up making it all the way through the program. Good luck!

Sounds like your looking for a BSN. Which is great. I know that RSU looks like an ADN program and it is, but you can go straight into the RN-BSN after your ADN so it ends up being 4 years just like any other BSN school. The only difference is you will already be an RN after 2 years and can work while finishing your BSN instead of waiting 4 years to take the NCLEX.

I personally would avoid Langston. I looked into that program too and it didn't give me warm fuzzies. They seem TOTALLY disorgainized. There is actually a girl that was just in my Pharm class with me at RSU who was in the nursing program at Langston and quit because it was so bad. She's applying to RSU nursing in March.

OU is good from what I hear, I have a friend that is in the first year traditional BSN program. My GPA from my first degree was too low and kept me from being competitive in the ABSN, even though my pre-reqs were a 4.0. Apply to as many schools as you can, then you have choices. I would avoid Langston though.

I spoke to a girl last spring when I was doing clinicals and she was a student at Langston, and she regretted going there. I don't remember exactly what she said, but something about it being unorganized, and having to learn everything on your own. Plus, now that she's halfway through the program, she's worried about Langston being on probation and what not.

I personally like TCC...yes, they admit 90 students, but we also have 9 different professors for Level 1. So, even if you don't like one of them, you have plenty of other resources to go to. I think they have their program down like a well oiled machine, and you always know what to expect.

I would like to clear up some of the rumors about Langston-Tulsa. The nursing program was never put on probation. They were up for review of accreditation in fall of 2010 and it was renewed.(every 10 years) As with many nursing schools there is some disorganization and some self teaching but ultimately it is up to the students to make the most of their education. The attrition rate could be better but I completed the program in two years. Langston has made numerous positive changes in the curriculum and the pass rate has significantly improved. Some positive aspect include: lower cost of tuition, you have the option to be a part-time student, it is a smaller program compared to most so its really like a family.

Great job luson10 Langston was never put on probation. If any of you want to check out your school you should go to the NLNAC website and you can see if the school has been accredited. You also need to remember that pass rate issues aren't always the schools fault. Academic integrity affects more than just passing a class, it can affect the student taking the NCLEX which then affects the school of nursing. If you want to know any schools current pass rate you should call the school up and just ask. They have to tell you the current pass rate. For Langston it is 100% for Fall 2010. Attrition rate is something you should ask about as well. If it is too high you need to reconsider or if it is too low you may need to reconsider. Not everyone can be a nurse and those that don't make it are angry. Be careful what is posted on websites about certain programs. Know where to get factual information when making a big decision such as picking a nursing program. The OBN and NLNAC are both great sites that have factual information about the program you are considering. As far as GPA for admissions, the minimum is posted but nursing school is competitive and we start with the top GPA's first and then work down to the cut off, whatever that may be for the school. If you are only at the minimum, chances are you will not be getting in. Lastly, you need to know if you want a BSN, or ADN or LPN. Look at your lifestyle and if the program fits then chances are you will be successful in any program that you give 100%. All the tools are there for a student to be successful, the problem lies when students fail to meet the expected 100% effort.

Samantha79, students don't just quit nursing school. I have never seen a student just decide to give up and quit. The reason your friend is not in the program is because she failed too many courses. Not everyone can be a nurse. It is very hard and it angers the student when they fail. Take information like that from anyone who has had a previous experience with a nursing school as a failed attempt. Students don't just quit and leave all their hardwork behind. Nursing school hours usually don't transfer to another program and it requires the student to start all over again. Before commenting on any school, know your facts. Nursing schools all over the US are looking at comments just like this and trying to eliminate people just like you from entering their program because of your unprofessional comments on a public forum that are untrue.

LJTulsa, Langston has been in Tulsa since 1992. Do more research before commenting on issues. Not to mention OSU-Tulsa would love to hear they are in the scary part of town along side OneOk field. Honestly, if your gonna make such ignorant comments then chances are you are not qualified to be in a program in Tulsa not to mention one you bad mouth.

SSASLE89,

Wow apparently I hit a nerve with you. The original poster asked "what have you heard?" I answered her question and told her what my experiences were when I was looking into the school 2 years ago. She didn't ask for facts and statistics. She had those in her original post. I gave her my opinion. You stating that "The reason your friend is not in the program is because she failed too many courses." is just not true. She was half way through the first semester and knew that program was not for her. She decided it was better to cut her losses at that point, rather than complete the semester (or year) and decide she needed to attend another school. She didn't have any nursing credit hours to transfer because she didn't complete them. It wasn't "starting all over." You stating something as fact that you have no actual proof for is unprofessional. I'm in a nursing program and excelling. I will graduate next spring. No school is "trying to eliminate people just like me" from the program. Nothing I stated was "untrue." I offered what I heard and what I experienced. You were more than welcome to do the same. Instead you made an abrasive post that seemed very much like an attack on mine. Why is this subject so touchy for you?

Samantha79, students don't just quit nursing school. I have never seen a student just decide to give up and quit. The reason your friend is not in the program is because she failed too many courses. Not everyone can be a nurse. It is very hard and it angers the student when they fail. Take information like that from anyone who has had a previous experience with a nursing school as a failed attempt. Students don't just quit and leave all their hardwork behind. Nursing school hours usually don't transfer to another program and it requires the student to start all over again. Before commenting on any school, know your facts. Nursing schools all over the US are looking at comments just like this and trying to eliminate people just like you from entering their program because of your unprofessional comments on a public forum that are untrue.

well to you both i got in to Langston

Congrats to you! Are you currently in the program or do you start in the fall? If you are currently in the program put your two cents in on how you feel about it. You are the first person I've seen on the boards who is a current student at Langston.

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