Ozzy84 397 Posts Specializes in GI Surgery Step-down. Sep 10, 2014 Why maternity nursing require for the male nurse students than? Going for clinical for 6 hour and doing nothing beside standing on hallway. There should be solution for this .. It doesn't make sense. According my instructs last two semester non of male students able to enter a room .. Forgot about to see delivery they can't even enter pt room why? Cos pt doesn't wanna have male nurse student.
chiandre 237 Posts Specializes in EDUCATION;HOMECARE;MATERNAL-CHILD; PSYCH. Has 25 years experience. Sep 10, 2014 Why maternity nursing require for the male nurse students than? Going for clinical for 6 hour and doing nothing beside standing on hallway. There should be solution for this .. It doesn't make sense. According my instructs last two semester non of male students able to enter a room .. Forgot about to see delivery they can't even enter pt room why? Cos pt doesn't wanna have male nurse student.So how come male doctors can do deliveries? You need to speak to your clinical instructor and the school. They are cheating you.
chiandre 237 Posts Specializes in EDUCATION;HOMECARE;MATERNAL-CHILD; PSYCH. Has 25 years experience. Sep 10, 2014 It was a terrible day.. First day at labor and delivery rotation day and patient refuse to have male student nurse .. Felt terrible while expecting to see something really interesting. So please don't tell me that male nurses working at labor unit. I live in New York and I spoke w nurses at labor unit. Their all midways and nurses are female. And they don't hire male nurses for l&d unit.Your clinical instructor needs to be more assertive. I have three male students. They have seen vaginal deliveries and cesarean sections. By the way, they just hired a male L&D male nurse two days ago in a Manhattan hospital that I take my student to.
RNIBCLC 1 Article; 357 Posts Specializes in Maternity. Sep 10, 2014 One of the nurses I worked with for twenty years is a male nurse. He put us women to shame, he was one of the most requested nurses by patients. I think he started in nursery and then cross trained. It can be done.
chiandre 237 Posts Specializes in EDUCATION;HOMECARE;MATERNAL-CHILD; PSYCH. Has 25 years experience. Sep 10, 2014 We don't have any Male nurses in L&D at my local HospitalYour hospital can be sued for violating labor laws. If male doctors can practice in L&D, why are male nurses not in the L&D?
Ozzy84 397 Posts Specializes in GI Surgery Step-down. Sep 10, 2014 New York State laws allows to patient right to refuse healt care provider. If pt says I don't want male doctor, the hospital must provide female doctor or nurse.
Ozzy84 397 Posts Specializes in GI Surgery Step-down. Sep 10, 2014 So how come male doctors can do deliveries? You need to speak to your clinical instructor and the school. They are cheating you.I was in the room at the moment family told that they don't want male student to see her vagina. Instead they allowed only one female student to be present. There is no way to tell pt "no" . It is pt right to refuse male provider by nys law. Btw it is a HHC hospital.
Ozzy84 397 Posts Specializes in GI Surgery Step-down. Sep 10, 2014 Your hospital can be sued for violating labor laws. If male doctors can practice in L&D, why are male nurses not in the L&D?Do you know some pt refuse nurses because of they don't want specific color of nurse ?? Saying that I don't want that color nurse!! Or I don't want young nurse get me more experienced nurse. I spoke medicine school students (male) and they states many times pt refused them as well in L&D unit.
crossfitnurse 364 Posts Sep 10, 2014 Sorry, but the patient does have the right to refuse the students in the room at any time.Maybe you could try again, or there's always your books and videos you paid $$$$$$$ for!!!!!!
RNsRWe, ASN, RN 4 Articles; 10,428 Posts Sep 10, 2014 This is getting ridiculous.As a student, you should be able to expect a decent (if not extensive) course of clinical rotation concerning maternity, labor and delivery. If the college's plan of action is to have you stand in the hallway, they are NOT DOING THEIR JOB. If the college is only associated with an Orthodox Jewish hospital (and therefore the expectation would be higher to have refusals of students based on gender) then they need to expand their program's acceptance. They can't NOT teach you.It is absolutely true that any patient may refuse to have any nursing student present at a birth, and that includes male students. However, it is the job of the clinical instructor responsible for your rotation to talk to that patient, explain the benefits of the education, etc, and that the patient will be treated with the utmost respect and dignity. And yes, the patient can still say no. But having the automatic assumption that the answer is 'no' is doing a huge disservice to the students in the program.Now, if the students themselves are turning off the prospective patient by being unprofessional in demeanor, speech, attitude, anything at all.....there's not much one can do because in those cases, they would deserve the exclusion.It's true that medical students get turned away as well as nursing students, BUT you can bet the instructor/physician responsible for those students is going to do everything possible to ensure it doesn't happen....or happen much.
Ozzy84 397 Posts Specializes in GI Surgery Step-down. Sep 10, 2014 This is getting ridiculous.As a student, you should be able to expect a decent (if not extensive) course of clinical rotation concerning maternity, labor and delivery. If the college's plan of action is to have you stand in the hallway, they are NOT DOING THEIR JOB. If the college is only associated with an Orthodox Jewish hospital (and therefore the expectation would be higher to have refusals of students based on gender) then they need to expand their program's acceptance. They can't NOT teach you.It is absolutely true that any patient may refuse to have any nursing student present at a birth, and that includes male students. However, it is the job of the clinical instructor responsible for your rotation to talk to that patient, explain the benefits of the education, etc, and that the patient will be treated with the utmost respect and dignity. And yes, the patient can still say no. But having the automatic assumption that the answer is 'no' is doing a huge disservice to the students in the program.Now, if the students themselves are turning off the prospective patient by being unprofessional in demeanor, speech, attitude, anything at all.....there's not much one can do because in those cases, they would deserve the exclusion.It's true that medical students get turned away as well as nursing students, BUT you can bet the instructor/physician responsible for those students is going to do everything possible to ensure it doesn't happen....or happen much.I wanna bring this issue to national nursing board.
