Joy In Striking???

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Hello everyone. I would like to express my sadness towards the exuberence displayed at yesterday's vote. Upon the announcement of the collaborative bargaining rejection, several union members erupted in cheer and celebration, one even had the audacity to pass out cigars. As a relatively new RN, it is unfortunate to see such a lack of compassion and the ignorance displayed. Where is the victory? These people malign a profession which should be entrenched with empathy and care. As a PNA member, I am deeply offended and humiliated. Not only are several of our own out of work during the holidays, we are also inadvertently causing layoffs and compromising work hours for other employees? Should we be high-fiving each other and rejoicing? You all ought to be ashamed of yourselves.

Thanks Karen.

steph:)

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originally posted by xtremern

once again, the brooding cloud of ignorance many of you have presented never ceases to amaze me. i have apparently incited a frenzy of uninformed and insidious jackasses. the thread i posted was not a moral inquery (ie nurses vs. corporate), rather an observation which disheartened me. i am an active member of pna-opeiu local union 112 currently on strike. nrskarenrn, i'm not contesting your mandation argument, even though the majority of other facilities empower their staff members to make their own decisions regarding such matters. when the going gets tough you have absolutely no ground to stand on, however, in regards to my comments on celebrating the vote outcome on monday. think of this analogy, you nitwits, and tell me (dare i ask) what you think: your dear child's life has been taken after being brutally beaten and raped. the perpetrator is arrested, convicted and sentenced to death by lethal injection. you and your spouse decide to attend the execution. the clock strikes midnight as you look towards the chamber. the combination of sodium thiopental, pavulon and potassium chloride are administered and within minutes the man who murdered your daughter is dead. you: a. cheer and dance around like a damn fool, passing out leftover cigars from the strike vote or b. sense closure to a horrific event, knowing that your child's life is irreplaceable.

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you might want to reread this bb's tos before posting again, if you do want to continue posting in the future. other than that, i have no more interest in discussing this post.

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Specializes in Community Health Nurse.
Originally posted by SmilingBluEyes

Beautiful post above!!! thank you barbara!

I second that Barbara and Deb! Thumbs up all the way to your comments, Barb. You are exactly the type of nurse I need to show up on the Dr. Phil Show once I get his approval to have a show about nurses working conditions and the abuse we endure while on the job. Stay tuned....our day in the media is coming loud and clear. :nurse:

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How dare you continue your ignorant tirade! Obviously you're in a dream world made up of touchy-feely nursing text with no clear grip on reality. Compassion in text, but not in reality. The inablilty to understand the big picture is quite obvious! I should have seen from your first post that you are in La-La Land and so I've wasted my keystrokes on this thread. To turn your back on your peers seems quite easy for you. And comparisons to executions and murder so far off track as to be almost laughable, were it not for the sheer dark devisiveness you ooze. XtREmeRN - yes, you are....

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originally posted by xtremern

once again, the brooding cloud of ignorance many of you have presented never ceases to amaze me. i have apparently incited a frenzy of uninformed and insidious jackasses. the thread i posted was not a moral inquery (ie nurses vs. corporate), rather an observation which disheartened me. i am an active member of pna-opeiu local union 112 currently on strike. nrskarenrn, i'm not contesting your mandation argument, even though the majority of other facilities empower their staff members to make their own decisions regarding such matters. when the going gets tough you have absolutely no ground to stand on, however, in regards to my comments on celebrating the vote outcome on monday. think of this analogy, you nitwits, and tell me (dare i ask) what you think: your dear child's life has been taken after being brutally beaten and raped. the perpetrator is arrested, convicted and sentenced to death by lethal injection. you and your spouse decide to attend the execution. the clock strikes midnight as you look towards the chamber. the combination of sodium thiopental, pavulon and potassium chloride are administered and within minutes the man who murdered your daughter is dead. you: a. cheer and dance around like a damn fool, passing out leftover cigars from the strike vote or b. sense closure to a horrific event, knowing that your child's life is irreplaceable.

:o

i choose a!!! in fact, please please please let me start the iv, mix the meds and inject them.

ya know, your analogy makes no sense at all.

p.s. my husband wants to know if he can hold him down. ;)

steph

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Specializes in Oncology/Haemetology/HIV.

Don't feed the trolls.

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Originally posted by 3rdShiftGuy

I could understand the rejecting of the contract and the need to strike. I fully support that.

But to erupt into cheers? To me having to reduced to striking is a sad event. But as you know I'm in a nonunion part of the world.

I agree, seems strange not that they are striking, but that they cheered about it.

I obviously was not there, so I can only assume, but remember this whole process most likely was emotionally and physically draining. People had to work towards this goal knowing that they were under the administrative (and coworker) gun so to speak. After much effort and painstaking lobbying they accomplished the first step in a common goal. IMHO the cheering was nothing more than a cathartic release of pent up emotion built up after acheiving a victory in the initial stages of a hard fought battle.

As for the cigar passing though...that was a bad idea...we gotta be role models for our pts. :D

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My first job was at a non-union hospital. There I was mandated to work overtime, I got cancelled all summer, and the ratios in the NICU varied by staffing levels to as much as 5:1. I then went to a union hospital. here I have no mandatory overtime, a zero cancellation policy, ratios that are 1:1 with any vent, and rarely more than 2:1 on any other assignment. I have far more paid sick days, vacation days, paid holidays and Ed leave. My retirement is infinitly improved. .... not to mention that my pay went from $19.55/hr to $37.14/hr. The reason is very clear U-N-I-O-N ! But the biggest benefit is the patients have better outcomes.

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No, there is no joy in striking, but there is joy in nurses standing up for one another. I have been in health care over 20 years and it is about time we stood together. We definitely do not get the money we deserve. Most hospitals will redecorate before they increase the nurses salaries. If you ask most people they would like better care than they would like new wall paper. I agree with the writer who said nursing schools do not foster unions. I agree with them. I have worked both non union and union jobs. I am getting paid more working a union job. As for the writer who wrote that if we were all men we would get paid more. I totally agree. Men would never tolerate mandated overtime and subserviate pay. All the teachers I know make more money that I do and yet we as nurses confront life and death situations constantly. Everyone needs to wake up to the fact that we are worth the money and we deserve it

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Why don't any of you respond to OBGRN's comments? They are well contructed ideas that are actually based on reality... SERIOUSLY. They aren't gung-ho "war tactics." This bulletin board is a sad reminder of how much work needs to be done in educating our own.

:stone

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Originally posted by psychrn03

I obviously was not there, so I can only assume, but remember this whole process most likely was emotionally and physically draining. People had to work towards this goal knowing that they were under the administrative (and coworker) gun so to speak. After much effort and painstaking lobbying they accomplished the first step in a common goal. IMHO the cheering was nothing more than a cathartic release of pent up emotion built up after acheiving a victory in the initial stages of a hard fought battle.

As for the cigar passing though...that was a bad idea...we gotta be role models for our pts. :D

Thanks to you and the others for clarification. I appreciate it. I'm going to stay out of this one as I'm quite ignorant to the process. But understand the passion and appreciate what they are doing.

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