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Things seem to be unfolding rather quickly. Former White House aides and advisors are scrambling to cover themselves as they receive subpoenas to appear and produce documents.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/12/03/clark-eastman-fifth-amendment/
It’s rare when lawyers — as opposed to their clients — take the Fifth Amendment. But Jeffrey Clark, the former Justice Department lawyer who reportedly tried to help Donald Trump overturn the 2020 presidential election, is now claiming the privilege against self-incrimination to avoid testifying before the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol. He has just been joined in that posture by one of Trump’s main outside legal advisers, John Eastman.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/08/politics/mark-meadows-lawsuit/index.html
The lawsuit comes after the committee signaled it would pursue a criminal contempt referral against Meadows because of his refusal to sit for a deposition in the investigation into the Capitol riot. Meadows alleges that the subpoenas are "overly broad and unduly burdensome," while claiming that the committee "lacks lawful authority to seek and to obtain" the information requested.
And apparently Mark Meadows had a power point outlining how to overturn election results.
https://www.newsweek.com/mark-meadows-powerpoint-January-election-results-trump-1658076
The 38-page presentation, entitled "Election Fraud, Foreign Interference & Options for 6 Jan," is dated one day before the Capitol riot. It's believed to have been submitted by Meadows after he was subpoenaed by the panel in connection with the insurrection.
Only the finest people...
8 minutes ago, Justlookingfornow said:Not to worry. Let's focus on if there is any substantial evidence presented that we don't already know and any direct link to the "insurrectionist" and Trump or any pre-organized plan for the riot. In which the FBI has already deemed there is no evidence of a pre-organized attempt. Which only cast more doubt on the actual purpose for all this.
"FBI investigators did find that cells of protesters, including followers of the far-right Oath Keepers and Proud Boys groups, had aimed to break into the Capitol. But they found no evidence that the groups had serious plans about what to do if they made it inside, the sources said."
From the link above.
Yes, we discussed that very article somewhere on the AN platform when it was published last year. You must be surprised that more information has been accessed since last August.
1 minute ago, toomuchbaloney said:It's not a trial. All they have to do is tell the truth. All of them have excellent access to the press to tell their stories.
Yes I know that. However the questions can be formulated the same as in a trial. I'm not sure, they should go a testify. I'm sure if they committed a crime they will charge them. Or they will just make the claim they committed a crime and not charge them. This is why this is foolish.
38 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:Yes, we discussed that very article somewhere on the AN platform when it was published last year. You must be surprised that more information has been accessed since last August.
Not really, just that most pleded guilty to lesser charges. Which can be taken with a grain of salt. As we all know criminals of all offensive plead out for a lesser charge or sentence. Like 1st degree murders plead out to avoid the death penalty.
Why don't we see if there is any evidence linking to Trump?
I'll find the link but the Oath Keepers themself grew tired of Trumps inaction, even texting that "he's just complaining, he's not going to do anything......".
We've beat this pony. I'm think I'm going to wait for any substantial evidence......... ? In fact unless they charge Trump with something, I'm pretty sure there is nothing new to learn.
Correction: I have to redact that they pleaded to lesser charges, however there is no info on their sentences but that they agreed to help prosecuters.
26 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:It doesn't seem that you take this committee or their work seriously, hence the reference to a joke.
The remainder of your quoted remark is emotional but unrelated to the topic of this thread.
The committee is a joke. The only ones who believe anything coming from there are the same ones who get their marching orders from The View. In the end it will be a waste of time and money that will accomplish nothing. Trump is going to be tried for anything and he’s not going to jail. You libs have it your best shot for four years with nothing to show for it. People don’t care about the Dem clown car circus when they can’t afford gas, can’t get baby formula, can’t pay the rent and soon to be out of work thanks to the Biden price hikes.
Perhaps I missed something. I watch the committee but sometimes get distracted. I also find left media very quiet on the subject. Has there been any evidence, information or testimony that Trump co-ordinated a attempted coup on the capital on Jan.6? Other than he was delusional and/or lied? In which a delusional person doesn't usually have the capacity to stage a coup against the US government.
From what I've seen is allot of emotional testimony, that Trump acted disgracefully and Guliani fuleld Trump's denial and was drunk, many people tried to council Trump to his loss, including family. They do not think there will be criminal charges against Trump accept maybe there will be according to Cheney. (It's really all she has left).
Did I miss anything?
9 minutes ago, Justlookingfornow said:Perhaps I missed something. I watch the committee but sometimes get distracted. I also find left media very quiet on the subject. Has there been any evidence, information or testimony that Trump co-ordinated a attempted coup on the capital on Jan.6? Other than he was delusional and/or lied? In which a delusional person doesn't usually have the capacity to stage a coup against the US government.
From what I've seen is allot of emotional testimony, that Trump acted disgracefully and Guliani fuleld Trump's denial and was drunk, many people tried to council Trump to his loss, including family. They do not think there will be criminal charges against Trump accept maybe there will be according to Cheney. (It's really all she has left).
Did I miss anything?
What emotional testimony are you referencing?
4 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:It's not a trial. All they have to do is tell the truth. All of them have excellent access to the press to tell their stories.
Then why go to the committee? Why not just hold a press conference.
3 hours ago, nursej22 said:There has been testimony about pressure put on Pence to reject the electors’ ballots, thus preventing the transfer of power, aka, a coup.
The hearing is going into more detail today.
So was it a coup in Florida in 2000 and Minnesota in 2008 when they were rejecting ballots for Norm?
1 minute ago, MaybeeRN said:Then why go to the committee? Why not just hold a press conference.
I believe it is a way to make accusations in a formal setting in order to sway voters. They are not even interested in criminal charges because this will provide a defence for Trump. That is the last thing they want. Also it will go down as a "non partisan committee because there was 2 Republicans". Leaving put the destain for Trump from the 2 Republicans who have been day 1 he took office.
If there was anything substantial, it would have been reported long ago, or at the very least already brought out by the committee. Left news station are unusually silent these days...
It may very well backfire because while they are wasting precious time and money, Americans are suffering with inflation.
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It's not a trial. All they have to do is tell the truth. All of them have excellent access to the press to tell their stories.