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When you were in nursing school and you were taught IV insertion, were you allowed to start them on each other? In our nursing program, it was absolutely forbidden . . . something to do with liability and blood exposure.
IMHO, we would be better prepared to start IV's on patients if we were allowed to practice on each other because the plastic arm sucks!! Plus, you would learn firsthand that IV insertion can hurt!
When you were in nursing school and you were taught IV insertion, were you allowed to start them on each other? In our nursing program, it was absolutely forbidden . . . something to do with liability and blood exposure.IMHO, we would be better prepared to start IV's on patients if we were allowed to practice on each other because the plastic arm sucks!! Plus, you would learn firsthand that IV insertion can hurt!
I agree totally. My private BSN program forbade us to do them also. Totally sucked. I had to pay like $300+ to talke an IV/Blood Class after I graduated just to learn how.
NY state and no school around here teaches IV or phlebotomy--I think it's a state law thing here too. Had to learn in the hospital. Each hospital around here has different policies on who can do IVs and what you have to do to be able to do them for that hospital. My first one was in L&D and I was aweful. My preceptor just taught me and my first one was on a patient. My preceptor could have let me do it on her first but wouldn't let me. lol another hospital and I learned in ER then moved to the floors and continued to get better till I was really good at it. Left that hospital and at another hospital I had to do something like 10 sticks observed to be allowed to do them in their hospital and since it was psych and we had then very seldom I never got certified so I lost that skill which sucks. I have kept up my phlebotomy skills but its now been a while since I have done an IV. --I guess its different depending on the state and the school.
NY state and no school around here teaches IV or phlebotomy--I think it's a state law thing here too. Had to learn in the hospital. Each hospital around here has different policies on who can do IVs and what you have to do to be able to do them for that hospital. My first one was in L&D and I was aweful. My preceptor just taught me and my first one was on a patient. My preceptor could have let me do it on her first but wouldn't let me. lol another hospital and I learned in ER then moved to the floors and continued to get better till I was really good at it. Left that hospital and at another hospital I had to do something like 10 sticks observed to be allowed to do them in their hospital and since it was psych and we had then very seldom I never got certified so I lost that skill which sucks. I have kept up my phlebotomy skills but its now been a while since I have done an IV. --I guess its different depending on the state and the school.
Another NY state here. Same thing - not taught in school, learned on the job. I had to have 10 sticks watched by another certified nurse before I was allowed on my own.
We weren't allowed to start them on each other. However, after we showed proficiency with the dummy arm, our instructor let us try one on her (for a few students that she trusted not to maul her.) I'm glad she did, as it allowed me to see it "live," rather than only trying on patients. My first non-lab patient start was on a dehydrated oncology patient that was a notoriously hard stick. I think I did a happy dance in the hall that I was successful. :)
I school in PA can't do IV on patients or each other. We were told we will be taught this as part of out on the job orientation after graduation, that it is not required/allowed by the PA Board of Nursing to be taught in school. Our school does however have the computer game arm that we can use to practice.
PediLove2147, BSN, RN
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Same.