IV Push Ativan

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Hoping to get some support for my story. Please be kind because this involves the death of my mom. My mom had metastatic breast cancer for 3 years and passed away Apr. 2021. She was in the ICU, then admitted to a med/surg floor that also had hospice patients.  I was so grateful the doctor agreed to admit her instead of sending her home because she was in a lot of pain.  She was receiving IV Morphine. Her Morphine dose started at a low infusion rate. When she started vomiting and having more pain, I asked her nurse if she could have IV Ativan. The nurse agreed and gave her the Ativan by slow push. Immediately my mom fell asleep and was not responding much. I have so many mixed feelings about this. I wanted my  mom to be comfortable but I did not expect the Ativan to make her fall asleep so quickly. But she needed the pain/anxiety relief.

So here is my issue. I worked in he NICU for 25 years and we pushed Ativan many times, slowly of course. I have never worked with adults, except with my mom and dad when they were very ill. The other day I was sharing my story about my mom to another nurse and she said "You don't push Ativan!!" She used to work in the ED. I was shocked and confused.  I told her I have pushed Ativan many times in the NICU and so did my coworkers. I go back and forth between blaming myself for asking for the Ativan, which at first made me feel like I helped to end my mom's life. I know the cancer is what ended her life, but mentally I keep telling myself if we would have held off on the Ativan we could have talked to her longer. But she suffered for many months before she passed. So I am also glad the Ativan helped her comfort level. To all the nurses out there who work with adults: is it WRONG to push IV Ativan?? I just want to get some clarity. Sometimes it feels like she died yesterday. I am tired of beating myself up about Ativan. She knew she was passing, and I made sure she was clear that our goal was to keep her comfortable. thanks for reading. 

Specializes in NICU/Telephone Triage.
2 hours ago, JBMmom said:

I am so sorry if you've been carrying around guilt related to this conversation. Clearly this nurse was wrong. I have pushed IV ativan hundreds of times. No matter what, as you pointed out and logically understand, it's the cancer that tragically cut your mother's life short. You were doing your absolute best as a daughter and caregiver. Give yourself grace, hoping that happy memories can bring you peace in difficult times. 

Thank you so much. I have been upset about how quickly the Ativan worked since she passed. I question myself off and on for asking for the Ativan. Then when this nurse said you can't push Ativan I wasn't sure if I heard her correctly! I am my own worst enemy sometimes. 

3 hours ago, RNperdiem said:

In ICU, we push all kinds of meds like Ativan, midazolam, hydromorphone, morphine and fentanyl. We are giving these drugs for a specific purpose. In 25 years of doing this, I have rarely had a problem.

In my Dad's final week with cancer, the hospice nurse gave us a bottle of concentrated drops containing ativan that helped my Dad's terminal agitation and gave him a more peaceful exit. 

It is so important to keep people comfortable during their departure from life.

I push Ativan multiple times a day in pacu. I also pushed it often in ICU, especially in comfort care situations.  That nurse had to have misunderstood you, I know they push it often in the ED.

Yes it can be used in gtt form.  It’s rarely used due to the fact it takes forever to get out of the body.  But I’ve used it on patients who are withdrawing, in status ellipticus, and to sedate a patient prior to being paralyzed. I also had it in a CADD pump on a comfort care patient.  
 

The Ativan I’m sure helped in the comfort of your mom.  Do not ever blame yourself.  

3 hours ago, ILoveHorses RN ADN said:

Then when this nurse said you can't push Ativan I wasn't sure if I heard her correctly!

Quite bizarre, that statement of hers. The majority of my experience is in the ED and I couldn't begin to estimate the number of times I've pushed ativan for a variety of situations.

Hard to understand why people are willing to fly off with comments like this when it's clearly a sensitive situation and also...they weren't there! Not sure if your acquaintance is just out of touch or doesn't really have the experience she said she did. I've also sometimes seen people comment inappropriately when they are very anxious about the sensitive nature of the topic (e.g. someone's grief/loss). But boy, she could not be more wrong, so please just don't let her 100% factually incorrect statement complicate your grieving or keep you from finding peace and comfort.

 

Specializes in Med/surg, oncology, telemetry staff RN.

I am sorry that you have been carrying around these thoughts about the Ativan. It's never given on a pump. It is always slow push. I would dilute with 1-2 ml saline, and slow push. I have given it many times over the course of my career. ETOH withdrawal was a big reason and depending on the size (and ETOH intake) of the patient an Ativan drip was required. I can remember having several withdrawing patients on the swing shift and having to do these pushes many times throughout the evening. That was a time when ETOH withdrawal was very prevalent on the medical unit. Back in the late 90's early 2000's. 

You Mom was surly exhausted, and the pain meds along with Ativan helped her to relax. Watching our parents suffer is so hard, you were there for her and a blessing to her, keep the loving memories and keep letting go of the painful ones. Hugs to you!

 

Specializes in NICU/Telephone Triage.
23 hours ago, LovingLife123 said:

I push Ativan multiple times a day in pacu. I also pushed it often in ICU, especially in comfort care situations.  That nurse had to have misunderstood you, I know they push it often in the ED.

Yes it can be used in gtt form.  It’s rarely used due to the fact it takes forever to get out of the body.  But I’ve used it on patients who are withdrawing, in status ellipticus, and to sedate a patient prior to being paralyzed. I also had it in a CADD pump on a comfort care patient.  
 

The Ativan I’m sure helped in the comfort of your mom.  Do not ever blame yourself.  

Thank you so much

 

Specializes in NICU/Telephone Triage.

I want to thank all of you who replied and helped me feel better. I wish I would have posted about this a year ago. I've reheorificed the Ativan scenario in my mind since my mom passed. This bizarre comment from that nurse just confused me even more. It's so nice to have everyone here supporting me. thank you!

Specializes in ER.

I've pushed it in multiple hospitals. I think she got relief from her nasty symptoms and was able to finally relax. 

On 7/15/2022 at 3:45 PM, ILoveHorses RN ADN said:

It is so important to keep people comfortable during their departure from life.

^^^^ THIS.   100% this.

Specializes in Oncology, ID, Hepatology, Occy Health.

Condolences on your loss. Mothers are very special and we only get the one.

I know you've already had the confirmation, but I will just add my voice: I have given IV Ativan as a push and yes, it's perfectly acceptable.

Specializes in Travel IMC Nurse.

You should not beat yourself up. Ativan is pushed at many facilities I have worked at but some are moving away from it for whatever reason. My dad had terminal heart failure and they gave him Ativan for agitation. He slept and within hours passed. I was angry for a long time that they gave it to him cause I didn’t get a chance to talk to him more but I know he was more comfortable in the end and it was more for myself to have time with him. I pray you find peace with the situation. 

Having been in ED for 8 years I'm not sure how your friend said we don't push Ativan because we definitely do. I've pushed it probably hundreds if not thousands of times for alcohol withdrawal patients, seizing patients, panic attacks, help with muscle spasms, agitated grannies (I know it's not recommended), oh and the good old B52 (Benadryl, haldol and Ativan) for our combative people in certain situations like involuntary psych holds who try to fight us. 
So sorry for your loss, I hope this helps. 

Pushed lots of ativan on all age groups with all sorts of diagnoses and comorbidities.  If you push it over a couple minutes there's no issue.  Been doing it for over 22 years and haven't lost a patient yet doing it this way.  Your grief is understood and your 'survivor' guilt is evident.  Your mom had a caring child and many in this life aren't as fortunate.  Take care 

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