Is it 5 or 7?

aussiemum · Nov 10, 2005

hi everyone,

here in australia we are now taught the

8 r's of safe administration of medications

they are

right time

right patient

right medicine

right dose

right route

right documentation

right effect

right education

:thankya: :thankya: robyn

hollya5334, LPN · Nov 10, 2005

The ones I learned (Im currently enrolled in LPN school right now)

Right Patient

Right Dose

Right Medication

Right Time

Right Route

Right to refuse

Right to document

Hope that helps!

PBAJS · Nov 10, 2005

quoting from: "help me stop making med errors!"

https://allnurses.com/forums/f86/help-me-stop-making-med-errors-123158-3.html

10-04-2005 post #23 triagern_34

did some of us know there are now 8 rights! uhggggggg

right:

1. dose

2. time

3. med

4. mar

5. patient

6. result

7. form

8. route (as if form doesn't tell you...but still)

and the bonus......

right to decline.....

[color=white].

AussieTina · Nov 10, 2005

Hi Robyn good to see a fellow aussie :)

At uni we are only taught the 5 Rights:

Right patient

Right route

Right time

Right medication

Right dose

However we were also to keep in mind:

Patient's rights to education about their medication

Patient's allergies

Patient's history

Patient's ability to swallow

Patient's current condition

Tina RN in two more years

flashpoint · Nov 10, 2005

We were taught...

1. Patient

2. Drug

3. Dose

4. Route

5. Time

6. Documentation

7. Right to Refuse

I asked one of the nursing instructors about it last night to see if they are changing or anything and she said that Expiration and Reason would be included in Right Drug...sounds like they are teaching the same stuff all over, just taking a different approach.

bth44 · Nov 10, 2005

Yep, I agree on that one. The 6th and 7th MUST be rationale and documentation.

Alibaba · Nov 10, 2005

we learned PMDARTED

Right...Patient

Medication

Dose

Amount

Route

Time

Expiration date

Documentation!!!

epiphany · Nov 11, 2005

Just as suggestion here...

I think we should exercise a little restrain with adding on to the five rights. Whilst right documentation and right to refuse is appropriate, do they belong in the list? The five rights were created as a mnemonic for the fundamentals of correct medication administration. To make the list too long would be to defeat the purpose of system meant for us to have an easy mental checklist before we give meds.

I can recall five meds like real quick like a rhyme. Documentation is something that happens after the fact, and if a patient refuses to take a drug, we don't need to recall a list of rights to know what to do. We also need to be aware that students will find it the five much more friendly to learn because they belong together like a family.

jalvino1 · Nov 12, 2005

1. sleepy

2. sneezy

3. happy

4. grumpy

5. dopey

6. bashful

7. doc

... no wait, those are the 7 dwarfs. Sorry, I couldn't help myself. :chuckle

Thunderwolf, MSN, RN · Nov 12, 2005

1. sleepy
2. sneezy
3. happy
4. grumpy
5. dopey
6. bashful
7. doc
... no wait, those are the 7 dwarfs. Sorry, I couldn't help myself. :chuckle

LOVED IT!:rotfl:

General E. Speaking, RN, RN · Nov 12, 2005

Just as suggestion here...
To make the list too long would be to defeat the purpose of system meant for us to have an easy mental checklist before we give meds.

I agree. We could make the list go on and on and on...

a_crftyldy · Nov 12, 2005

Back when I was in school we were taught the five basic rights, which everyone has posted already, but were also taught five additional rights. These being:

1. Right assessment

2. Right education

3. Right to refuse

4. Right evaluation of how the med effects the pt

5. Right documentation which includes date and time, name of the drug given, the dosage given, the route administered, the site (for injections), the effects of the medication (i.e. ativan - pt calmer with decreased agitation), any education provided, and if the medication wasn't given why