Is there a "Nurse Shortage" Lie?

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  1. Were you told there is a nursing shortage? (Related to aging population, or aging RNs)

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Is there a nursing shortage lie? Does this keep the colleges full of students?

Defined: a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood. something intended or serving to convey a false impression; imposture.

After becoming a AS-RN, I was told Hospitals would no longer be hiring AS-RNs, the obvious option was to get that BSN. After getting the BSN the hospitals said, there are many people, many fine candidates with 4.0 GPA's, you were not selected. Landing a job in Home Health se.0emed like at least some way to continue to serve. Hospitals were saying that 5 years in Home Health didn't amount to 1 year of acute care, and he couldn't be hired on a med/surg floor. Ok then, a terminal degree would fulfill that life time goal of being educated, what should one do? Change professional from the "worlds most trusted profession, to some other profession?

Not really, a 4.0 GPA and a great understanding of the profession, it won't hurt to grab that Master's before I'm too old. So the Master's, my home health company and those friends had no time for a case manager that didn't work Mondays thru Sundays, so a break again from home health to become a top educated RN. What an honor right. Maybe not. 350 applications later and not one interview, or call, nothing but fake headhunters with "behavioral questions", is this ageism, a flooded market?

Master's done! 4.0, Suma Cun Laude, time to get that med surg outta the way, no more education needed. Advanced Practice wouldn't really be nursing, its is being a provider. Whats next? Another 300 applications, same answer, we found someone that was a better candidate for all 300 jobs? Then a headhunter for a major hospital told me. "I don't know why that a new RN can't be hired, that 1 year experience policy is stupid", no one can work without 1 year acute experience, and no one can be hired without it"? I simply can't place you in any position, sorry.

So, FNP? DNP? Folks if there was really a shortage of nurses I would be working everywhere. The truth is the hospitals are playing the traveler game. Several excuses are being used for refusing to hire nurses with adequate wages, and benefits. "We want to make sure you are a good fit". "We want to make sure after you are orientated, you aren't going to leave"! These excuses are just the ranting of the monopoly that is the health care system I guess.

See: Council of Economic Advisors Brief. (2016, October). Labor Market Monopsony: Trends, consequences, and policy responses. Retrieved from https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/sites/default/files/page/files/20161025_monopsony_labor_mrkt_cea.pdf

Shouldn't our colleges be informing students, and potential students about how this lie of shortages is not related to, or how it doesn't translate into substantial employment? This isn's a shortage its a "At-Will" employment fraud. IT forces nurses into signing a "At-Will" contract, instead of promoting a "good cause" employment contract. The nature of employment is contractual, signing an at-will contract destroys the definition of Federal Labor Laws, and is a fraud on nurses.

There is no shortage, only greed and deception. (Mostly greed). We are nurses, and at every practice level we do the job, we get it done, we put everyone else first, in the traditions of Flo, and Rogers, Watson, and Lewin. We are agents of change, satisfying customers, providing quality care within legal scope, cost effectively saving the bottom line, without lowering the safety and standard of evidence based practice, we are art, we are caring, we are the ethic, the bottom line, those that stand up when our patients cannot.

Are we jokes? I say we are and every new person that finds this calling should know the immoral and unethical lie you will be told. Is there another explanation? So you want to be a nurse? Do you?

Specializes in orthopedic/trauma, Informatics, diabetes.

Eastern NC is short. We have three level 1 trauma centers; 2 teaching organizations within 50 miles. Raleigh-Durham area. Always hiring. ADN, BSN, diploma.

I don't want to come off as dismissive of the OP's points though.

My first career was teaching. All though high school and college, I was told there was a shortage of teachers. When I left university with my teaching degree, I found out what a lie that was. No jobs, and teachers powerless to have any agency in what they do. I was required to work unpaid after-hours, such as taking tickets at sports events, tutoring students, and writing the teaching equivalent of care plans for at-risk students. When I tallied up the actual hours I worked a week, I realized I was working for about $17/hr, with a 4-year degree! Don't get me started on how everything is the teacher's fault, despite out hands being tied on what we could do for the students....

Woah, Woah...I'm going way off-topic. :wtf: My point is that the OP is absolutely right that a powerless workforce is good for big business: They have every reason to saturate the market. I was conscious of that when I joined nursing, but the shortage in my area does not look poised to dry up any time soon, so I'm banking I can get experience now to leverage later, while things are in my favor. There's really no way to make collages STOP producing nurses, is there?

Two words:

Nursing homes.

Always a shortage of nurses willing to work in nursing homes.

No, there is not a lie about shortages. There *most definitely* is a shortage. However, that shortage is regional, and specific to certain specialties.

Others have mentioned "flyover" states. I moved from one place to another to start as a floor nurse. After about a year, problem solved - I was able to be a competitive candidate in several areas much more desirable. I could have stayed, but for personal reasons I chose to move on (family). It did help I was offered a chance to go work in a specialty which is rare to get into.

With respect to specialty - you could have pursued a different specialty than home health. I'm an OR nurse, and we are facing an impending disaster. Most of the workforce in procedural areas is not young. We have numerous studies demonstrating exactly how dire things are about to be for our sphere of this profession. ARE people interested in coming into the OR? Yes, but not in sufficient quantities. ESPECIALLY considering that this is a specialty where a new to OR nurse will spend a minimum of six to nine months on orientation before being able to staff on their own. We're not like the floor where you actually do get a good-ish idea of what nurses do during school. My first floor job - as a new grad I had six weeks of orientation (some classes were ongoing but still). Why would new grads who have no desire to be a nurse but want to check eligibility boxes for NP or CRNA school venture into a specialty that requires a longer commitment and doesn't exactly match the requirements they have for admission? There are a lot of reasons I feel are responsible for this specialty facing the upcoming shortage it is...but that's a different discussion.

Specializes in Certified Vampire and Part-time Nursing Student.

Honestly what OP done sounds like a recipe for disaster, or just a mountain of student debt. Sounds like instead of paying money for 6+ more years of education OP should have been applying to a hospitals in some desolate rural states, stayed for a year, and then moved back into peak-saturation city with more experience.

I'm not entirely sure there is a real shortage of nurses. I've asked a couple of my friends (one just graduated from her adn program, another is in the middle) and they are telling me that there are quite a few ****** jobs available in hospitals for nurses. They will tout the "nursing shortage" for constantly hiring new grads which is nothing but the hospitals own manufacturing. They put new grads to the meat grinder because they don't demand a good salary or benefits and burn them out with short staffing. So there is not a shortage of nurses but a shortage of good nursing jobs in my city.

Grain of sand I guess because I'm not a nurse but I am considering an aBSN so I've done some job researching because I wanna know what I'm getting myself lol

Specializes in Geriatrics, Home Health.
Two words:

Nursing homes.

Always a shortage of nurses willing to work in nursing homes.

There's a reason for that. I will sell my body on the street before I work in another nursing home.

There's a reason for that. I will sell my body on the street before I work in another nursing home.

I always tell nurses if they must work in a nursing home to find ones that are faith based,especially Catholic and Jewish based ones.

MO Hospital offering $5,000 sign-on bonus to new grads

Certainly no shortage here

https://allnurses.com/general-nursing-discussion/mo-hospital-offering-1172949.html

Specializes in hospice, LTC, public health, occupational health.
MO Hospital offering $5,000 sign-on bonus to new grads

IME jobs with hiring bonuses are the absolute worst places that cannot keep staff, and use the contract that comes with the bonus to force staff to work there long after they figure out how awful it is and why they need to offer bonuses to get people to work there.

Specializes in OB-Gyn/Primary Care/Ambulatory Leadership.
IME jobs with hiring bonuses are the absolute worst places that cannot keep staff, and use the contract that comes with the bonus to force staff to work there long after they figure out how awful it is and why they need to offer bonuses to get people to work there.

In the other thread, someone familiar with this health system said the opposite.

Specializes in Home Health/Wound care.

Yes. It is true. I even have the list of the job apps in a spreadsheet. I am in a major metropolitan center W-SE USA. I will say this. I sent one application, after seeing my dilemma, to a rural regional hospital, and was hired in a couple days. I am packing to move, a few hours north. A very dedicated and thoughtful group of RNs there cut the red tape, relieved and thankful. I guess its where I am located for the most part.

Additionally, I will add that the major hospital group here "recognized as a top health system in the country for the clinical quality consistently provided to patients in our hospitals, and operates 28 hospitals..." is crying out for RNs. Advertising openly, saying there is a shortage, it is not possible I was over looked because I had direct contact with their staffing agencies.

I have to go read 33 more comments and see if I can make some sense of how this played out. Thank you for the thoughtful comment.

Specializes in Home Health/Wound care.
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