Is it okay to tape record on my phone my patient's report?

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Okay, so I'm having trouble writing all the details and absorbing the information during the change-of-shift report. The nurses speaks TOO FAST like they assume I know the patient already. I always rush to write everything and miss details.

I'm considering resolving this issue by taping my specific patient's report on the "voice recorder" function on my Android smartphone. I would then plug in my earphones and play it back in case I think I miss something. Since nurses seem to somehow take 2-5 minutes on one report for a patient I think I will be alright listening it back with my voice recorder without wasting too much time.

Do you think this is an okay resolve for my problem? Am I breaking any HIPAA rules? I will definitely trash the voice recording after the clinical.

I need some advice on this. I don't know what else to do because I'm having trouble writing everything down while listening to what they are saying. And, it could be really disorganized the way some of them give report.

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Excuse me, ThePrincessBride but no question is a dumb question. Chose your words wisely.

Maybe she had a second post hat I missed, but I don't think ThePrincessBride actually called it a "dumb" question. And it certainly is not a dumb question, but it is a question with a obvious answer.

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Excuse me, ThePrincessBride but no question is a dumb question. Chose your words wisely.
I believe the post was.....
ThePrincessBride I'm shocked that you even have to ask this question, OP. NO. NO. NO. And NO.

I'm slightly surprised that a nursing student would not know this already however we get these kinds of questions all the time. The generation that was brought up with technology view it like a pen and paper.

The only dumb question is the question not asked! That's what this student forum is for: answering questions not judging the OP's question.

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The only dumb question is the question not asked! That's what this student forum is for: answering questions not judging the OP's question.

Actually, there is such a thing as a dumb question -- the question that is asked over and over again without retaining the answer. But as you said, this is the place to ask those questions. Better to have strangers on the internet judging one than having one's peers or superiors at work doing so.

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While a question is asked again and again...that doesn't mean that THIS poster has ever asked it before. I think we need to remember that members have wide ranges of experience that other members and it is common for younger members....brought up with social media to post questions. Schools are making the internet an integral part of the class work. To them this is asking associates and associate it with a pen and paper. Heck some schools at the grade school level are not even teaching cursive (huge mistake) and have "keyboarding as the required" writing' class.

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I find it difficult to believe that there's a smart phone out there with the option of tape recording. Tapes are a thing of the past -- so ancient that my college-graduate step daughter has never seen one. Or so she says.

Really? My phone does....
Voice recording on the Samsung Galaxy S4 is really simple and useful.

Taking a voice note on your Samsung Galaxy S4 is really easy. The built in Voice Recorder, though simple, packs all of the options and tools you need for capturing audio.

  1. Open the Voice Recorder app.
  2. Tap the record button at the bottom in the middle.
  3. Tap pause to delay recording, then the record button again to continue recording to the same file.
  4. Tap the square stop button to finish recording.
  5. Tap the x button to delete the current recording. (Recording controls are also available via the notification tray; swipe down from the top of the screen from anywhere outside the app to pause, stop, or cancel recording, as well as go back to the app.)

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Really? My phone does....

You missed it. The statement was regarding (cassette) tape recording not voice recording. I've never seen a phone with the capacity to insert a cassette or reel-to-reel tape either. ;)

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While a question is asked again and again...that doesn't mean that THIS poster has ever asked it before. I think we need to remember that members have wide ranges of experience that other members and it is common for younger members....brought up with social media to post questions. Schools are making the internet an integral part of the class work. To them this is asking associates and associate it with a pen and paper. Heck some schools at the grade school level are not even teaching cursive (huge mistake) and have "keyboarding as the required" writing' class.

I agree with this (including the cursive comment -- it's pathetic that kids can't read cursive now...). Technology is an integral part of our lives and seen as an extension of our human tools. I don't find it strange or outrageous that someone in their 20s would consider recording report a viable option. I wouldn't consider this an option because technology is not the first thing I go to for solutions, and actually would think of recording and re-listening as double the work anyhow ;)

I'm glad we have this space to safely ask these questions. We probably saved the OP a lot of troubles by reminding her of HIPAA.

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Reports (hand off) may be recorded on APPROVED hospital devices that NEVER leave the facility. In accordance with The Joint Commission taped reports are discouraged unless there is a policy set up for the receiving nurse to ask questions. More facilities are doing bedside report which is a JC recommendation.

AHRQ Patient Safety Network - Handoffs and Signouts

Yes, I've encountered nurses recording their reports more frequently than I would have guessed, but it is always on a specific device provided by the hospital. Sorry I didn't make that clear.

As has been stated: Absolutely Not! But there are ways to work with this. First as has been mentioned search for or make your own report sheet. I my self tend to be very detail oriented and find that if I don't get the details I feel as though I am missing something important. Not a way to start your day. So, that being said take some time and sit down to think about what it is that you feel you are missing in report. Do this outside of clinical or work and MAKE A LIST! Then spend time mapping out 2 report sheets (different set ups). Use check boxes and columns for diagnosis, lab values, test results and note only by exception. Meaning you only note the negative. (i.e. you don't need to write down a/o times 3 that is a given unless you note otherwise). Give each style a good try. Note the details that you feel you might still be missing and then adjust your report sheets. Also ask to see report sheets others have and talk with them asking what they feel is most important to enter on their report sheet. Don't forget if you are a student or a new nurse experience is one of the best teachers, so talk with others. Keep seeking until you find what works for you. Most of all don't berate yourself. We all had to learn.

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While a question is asked again and again...that doesn't mean that THIS poster has ever asked it before. I think we need to remember that members have wide ranges of experience that other members and it is common for younger members....brought up with social media to post questions. Schools are making the internet an integral part of the class work. To them this is asking associates and associate it with a pen and paper. Heck some schools at the grade school level are not even teaching cursive (huge mistake) and have "keyboarding as the required" writing' class.

Evidently I wasn't clear -- I'm sorry. A dumb question is one that a single person asks over and over without retaining the answer. Such as "Now what's the number for the blood bank again?" 37 times in one shift. Or "What time does my 7AM shift start" a dozen times after someone has told her it starts at 6:55 AM.

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Really? My phone does....

Where do you put the tapes?

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