Is Nursing Right for Me? (Holistic-Minded)

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Hello All,

I'm a pre-nursing student and I'm trying to figure out if nursing is right for me. I have been a massage therapist for 5 years and I love it. Unfortunately, the area I live in is saturated with therapists and it's hard to make a living at it. I also work as an elderly caregiver, working mostly with people with dementia or at hospice levels. I love helping people in any capacity and I have a passion for anything health related.

I grew up in a family that was very health conscious/holistic. We believe that vaccines and medications in general are not great and often harmful and we have no faith in the FDA. We know that the best way to be be healthy is to eat organic non-processed foods and being active.... to avoid microwaves, plastics, msg, artificial sweeteners, aluminum antiperspirants, sodium laurel sulfate, etc.. We practice Reiki and use aromatherapy or a little pot if we are in pain. I'm going into specifics to try and paint a picture instead of just saying 'I'm holistic'. I should also say I'm not an extremist with these beliefs/knowledge, but I do try to generally follow these guidelines to be healthy and proactive.

For a few years now, I have also been in the role of patient advocate for a couple of family members with their many health issues. Our journey has made my family's confidence in the Western health system plummet. My grandmother's kidney dr. told her that it was not important to drink water. Her lung dr. gave her an inhaler that is not meant for people with high blood pressure, even though she has that condition. It sent her into seizures and to the ER. We saw him at a follow up appt and he offered her another inhaler that he assured her would be okay... when we got it home, I read the pamphlet, and again he had given us one not meant for people with hight bp. Her neuro dr. put her on a medication for epilepsy... she has seizures occasionally, due to a chemical exposure, not epilepsy. The meds aged her 20 years within a week. She slept 15 hrs a day, couldn't take care of herself anymore and her hair started falling out. When we spoke to the dr., I told her we wanted to wean her off the meds. She tried to use fear to keep my grandma on them... We finally got the doc's okay after arguing and then low and behold, she got better and thankfully can take care of herself again. I could go on and on about the incompetence of messed up paper work for important blood tests for another family member and how we had to figure out the diagnoses for her ourselves, because teams of drs. did nothing.

All of this lit a fire under me. I wanted to change the system from the inside. I wanted to become a Doctor of Osteopathic medicine so that I could be a primary care provider, educate people on preventative health and help to slow down the over medicating of people. I wanted to be a DO so I would still be in the Western medicine system, but have an education that was more preventative/holistic-minded. I started on that path last year and then did the math ... I am 28 now and I would be 41 by the time I got out of residency. I decided I didn't want to spend my entire 30's broke, stressed and unable to reasonably consider starting a family. I re-evaluated and decided that becoming a nurse and eventually a nurse practitioner would get me to the same primary care role. I also like the flexibility to work 3 or 4 days a week as an RN and ultimately I would have much of the direct patient care that I enjoy.

My concern is that, as an RN, I may end up butting heads with drs. and nurses that are very 'traditional western medicine minded' in the process of trying to help people. I know that overall the system is becoming steadily more accepting of 'alternative' or 'natural' medicine, but I'm still not sure I'll fit in okay. Even though I'm not a fan of vaccines, as a nurse, I understand that it will be my job to give those to people and I am okay with that. In that role, I don't believe it is my duty to share my opinions/knowledge as to why that is not great... that is what the NPs or drs are for. When and if I become an NP in primary care, that is where it is my duty to offer up that information to educate my patients. I am not against all meds. There are definitely times where they are appropriate, but the prescribing doc should take a moment to make sure the meds don't conflict and that there isn't a simpler option available. I would however, have trouble serving the horrible hospital 'food' to sick patients. Chicken boullion with msg, sugary jello and other things with minimal nutritional value... We're trying to heal people, but aren't giving them nutritious foods to heal with.

I help my elderly folks with toileting and bathing with no problems. I love helping people feel better, and educating on health issues. I feel drawn to share the knowledge I have and want to help prevent the overwhelming errors I've seen. I'm sorry this post is sooo long, but I wanted to paint a full picture of who I am and what is motivating me.

So I guess my question is, if I go into nursing, I am going to be the odd duck out and be frustrated by everything I see? I don't want to spend my career biting my tongue. Are any of you similar to me in beliefs and how are you doing in this work environment? Are there certain areas of nursing that may be a better fit for me than others? In addition to primary care, I'm interested in L/D, urgent care, women's care, NICU, home care and hospice. I am in the Northern Colorado area and I know location can have a lot to do with the environments. Where I am it seems to be a little progressive, but not as much as a place like Boulder.

Thanks so much for your time and any advice you can offer me.

Interesting... I would think that since it's becoming common knowledge that breastfeeding is the best option for the baby's immune system, that would be mentioned in school. I think programs probably vary widely in content based on the community they are in and the point of view of each teacher. A program in Boulder, Boston, or San Fran may include more progressive/holistic stuff than one in Kansas or Alabama.

If you research the origins of medical and nursing schools in this country, they were created and funded by pharmaceutical companies. Those companies also created much of the curriculum, so of course, that's what western medicine in this country focused on.

They want you to put vasoline on a wound? Does petroleum have healing properties? Couldn't they at least use something like neosporin?

I love psych stuff, but what does a nurse do in that environment besides handing out pills... or maybe cleaning up self-inflicted wounds?

I was actually surprised at how many moms were "trying" breastfeeding. But it doesn't help when nurses are pushing formula (pacifiers) and giving "free" formula bags to EVERY mom. A lot of people still think that formula is just as good and isn't harmful. I think it's 70% of moms leave the hospital breastfeeding and only 30% are at 6 months. :/ We had to write an ethics paper for clinical and present it to the group at the end of maternity and I did mine on circumcision. At least I maybe made 7 people think of something different then our American ways. Psych is very interesting and all I've done is orientation. But we did a tour of the place and seeing and talking to some of these people opened my eyes. It's different to actually see these people then just read about them. But yeah I feel like you....there's no IVs, trachs, etc etc like in a hospital setting. But it's definitely an option that I'm considering.

Specializes in Emergency Dept. Trauma. Pediatrics.

Crunchy Mama,

I understand your views on parenting and maternity. While I am not here to debate them, reading your posts, do you think it's very professional or "intelligent" to refer to people as stupid or ignorant if they don't agree with your same view point? Reading your posts in this thread I have seen you use these words a lot. You even added in "(please no stupid comments from anyone)".

If you feel you are so much wiser and more informed then the masses, then that's great, but having to trash and call names to people that might not agree with your view points surely isn't the way to go about getting your message across.

Saying other people are saying ignorant and stupid things isn't calling anyone names. If you think it is I'm sorry but I don't see it that way. Being ignorant on something isn't offensive IMO. I'm ignorant on how many lakes there are in Turkey....I seriously have no idea. I'm ignorant on a lot of things. America is ignorant when it comes to these issues....statistics show that. I've been in these kinds of conversations before and forgive me for not being compassionate. I'm not necessarily trashing anyone...just stating the facts from what I've seen and have experienced.

personally I think we need more nurses who think like you. There are people out there that WANT to take a more holistic approach but it's hard to fine doctors, nurses, etc that feel that way. I'm in agreement with many of the things that you wrote. For the most part, I just memorize what I'm supposed to memorize. As a student in the hospital, you will have time to meet your patient's needs on a more personal level. That won't really be the case as a hospital staff nurse. But why do you need to be a hospital staff nurse? ;) Investigate opportunities for the kind of nursing you want to do. How about working with a naturopathic doctor? A birthing center? A midwives' office? Or even research area hospitals to find out which ones have the best mother-baby friendly policies. Nursing is so broad that I do think you could find your niche. Yeah, you'll butt heads here and there along the way but I wouldn't let it stop you. :)

Specializes in Gyn/STD clinic tech.

i will add that nursing school requires vaccinations, or you must prove immunity through titers, no immunity means no nursing schools.. at my school there are no exceptions, and this is something to consider.

Specializes in Emergency Dept. Trauma. Pediatrics.
Saying other people are saying ignorant and stupid things isn't calling anyone names. If you think it is I'm sorry but I don't see it that way. Being ignorant on something isn't offensive IMO. I'm ignorant on how many lakes there are in Turkey....I seriously have no idea. I'm ignorant on a lot of things. America is ignorant when it comes to these issues....statistics show that. I've been in these kinds of conversations before and forgive me for not being compassionate. I'm not necessarily trashing anyone...just stating the facts from what I've seen and have experienced.

Well the comment that really stood out to me was the comment about people not adding their stupid comments. Just because some people don't agree with your views doesn't make their opinion stupid. Or because they don't agree and are for something doesn't make them ignorant. Maybe ignorant to YOU. For the record, I support BFing fully and BF my 4 kids and although I did have my 3 sons circumcised, if I could go back, I wouldn't after learning things I have later on. But I was young and just listened to what I was told. If I were someone on the fence about some of these things and read your post it would push me in the opposite direction. The whole tone of your posts regarding these things and those that don't agree seemed angry and rude and condescending. I am sure that isn't the effect you would want if you are wanting people to see "the light" so to speak. I think it's great to be passionate about things and I am passionate about tons of things.

i will add that nursing school requires vaccinations, or you must prove immunity through titers, no immunity means no nursing schools.. at my school there are no exceptions, and this is something to consider.

thanks for the heads up. i've had most of my vaccinations when i was a kid and though i'm not looking forward to any more, i'm willing to take those basic ones so that i can be in health care. what i really don't want to take are flu vaccinations, if i can help it. i've heard mixed info on healthcare workers being required or not, depending on the state. and there was some legislation being discussed about these workers not wanting to have to take the flu vaccine or h1n1. are any of you guys required to take those flu vaccines? if i have to take them, its not going to kill me (hopefully :p) but i've never taken one and i almost never get the flu, so i'd prefer not to.

rbytsdy,

thanks for your comments. i'd love to work with a naturopath. and actually, i'd like to be one - lol, but i also need a dependable income without having to market myself all the time.

~mi vida loca~ & crunchymama,

i think you both have points, but i'm not getting involved. peace to you both - lol :hug:

Specializes in NICU.

Heh...I avoided the flu vaccine until this year (I've never had the flu either). My doctor talked me into getting both the seasonal and H1N1, one in each arm. I wasn't thrilled, but I understood the reasoning.

Specializes in Emergency Dept. Trauma. Pediatrics.

I didn't have to get the flu shot.

Specializes in EMT-P.
Have you looked at the Journal of Holistic Nursing? That is an entire medical journal, chock full of research and scientific study, that is devoted to holistic nursing. You should check out the AHNA, the Association of Holistic Nurses. I think you'll be pleased. :) And you definitely aren't the only one out there! I saw one of the other posters mentioned midwifery--if you are interested in childbirth, you would probably make an excellent nurse midwife.

Ahh the AHNA, you should have a read here.

Nurses Create Quack Specialty

Stephen Barrett, M.D.

Seriously, astrology, art therapy, Gem therapy, really???

I grew up in a family that was very health conscious/holistic. We believe that vaccines and medications in general are not great and often harmful and we have no faith in the FDA..

Holistic practice includes the use of vaccines and in no way precludes the use of medications when other interventions (of all types) are ineffective. By the way, "a little pot" is a drug and if you are using it as a pain intervention, it is a medication. The active ingredient in marijuana is a chemical and it is has been shown to work on specific receptors in the nervous system.

The fact that you think that vaccines are "harmful", but lighting some tetrahydrocannabinol containing weed on fire and inhaling the smoke is "holistic" could very likely be the source of the potential head butting you fear.

Whether you label it Western, Holistic, Alternative, Complimentary, or whatever - Nursing practice is evidence based. The tone and content of your post indicates you are unconcerned with available evidence.

Good luck in whatever direction you choose.

Holistic practice includes the use of vaccines and in no way precludes the use of medications when other interventions (of all types) are ineffective. By the way, "a little pot" is a drug and if you are using it as a pain intervention, it is a medication. The active ingredient in marijuana is a chemical and it is has been shown to work on specific receptors in the nervous system.

The fact that you think that vaccines are "harmful", but lighting some tetrahydrocannabinol containing weed on fire and inhaling the smoke is "holistic" could very likely be the source of the potential head butting you fear.

Whether you label it Western, Holistic, Alternative, Complimentary, or whatever - Nursing practice is evidence based. The tone and content of your post indicates you are unconcerned with available evidence.

Good luck in whatever direction you choose.

Pot is natural. The damage to your body is minimal... maybe a little dry cough if used habitually (using a vaporizer can prevent that because you aren't 'lighting it on fire'). I have two family members that could not get through the day without it because of nausea, insomnia, body pain, and headaches. Because of this natural herb, they are able to work, instead of being on disability. These people also happen to have intense sensitivities NSAIDs, one of them had to go to the hospital for allergic reactions no matter what she tried.

If you go to the FDA's website or any other traditional medicine source, they specifically list that NSAIDs and most meds as being hard on your organs and can cause all sorts of side effects. Studies have trouble showing anything negative like this associated with pot when used in reasonable amounts.

Have you ever taken the time to read and investigate the ingredients in most vaccines?

In addition to mercury, flu vaccines also contain other toxic or hazardous ingredients like:

  • Aluminum -- a neurotoxin that has been linked to Alzheimer’s disease
  • Triton X-100 -- a detergent
  • Phenol (carbolic acid)
  • Ethylene glycol (antifreeze)
  • Betapropiolactone - a disinfectant
  • Nonoxynol - used to kill or stop growth of STDs
  • Octoxinol 9 - a lady partsl spermicide

I could go on and on, but I'm not here to prove my case, just to make a little clearer to you why I value one over the other. And yes, I do currently use small doses of pot as a medication for the reasons above.

When you said: "Holistic practice includes the use of vaccines and in no way precludes the use of medications when other interventions (of all types) are ineffective." - It depends which type of 'holistic' you are referring to. In traditional medicine when treating the 'whole person' then yes of course you utilize those. Many people that consider themselves 'holistic' in the other sense, won't touch those and prefer herbs or whole foods to help heal. Neither is wrong... just personal preferences.

I am getting sick of you guys saying that I don't care about scientific evidence. There is a mountain of evidence that medication, drs, and hospitals kill tons of people from side effects, mis-management, under staffing, etc. There is also a ton of new research that shows that many CAM therapies are helpful with less side effects. You are choosing to believe the 'accepted common knowledge'. I choose to not trust some of the powers that be and do my own research. Again we have different styles, but don't say the research isn't out there. You are just choosing not to explore things you don't deem worthy.

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