Is it only hard for Asn and Bsn nurses to get hired?

[UpstateNyDollCna]

I was interested to know if it is only Asn and Bsn nurses who have a hard time getting hired or do Msn nurses have a hard time also?

I know I am getting a little ahead of myself but next year I have to decide if I want to go to a C.C. for the pre requisites for a BSN program or a PT program.

[gigglymo]

I think the issue is experience and location, not degree. An inexperienced BSN in California may look 2 years before finding ANY job, while a new grad ADN in Texas may have multiple offers.

[netglow, ASN, RN]

I have heard that MSNs who are new eg without experience have it harder than all. Others will have to post what they've heard or experienced. Now that would not specifically be true in the outside job world for a masters.

[joanna73, BSN, RN]

As far as inexperienced MSNs in Canada, they aren't being hired either. No surprise, really. How can you truly be a "Master of Nursing" with little to no experience? Makes no sense. And new grad BSN and LPN are not finding it easy either.

[JerseyBSN]

I think the right path is to get your ASN, get a job, get experience and then work on your BSN online. Usually the employer will help pay for it too!

[Flo., BSN, RN]

Totally disagree with the advice to get a ADN. In my area ADNs are not being hired, hospitals want the BSN. You should really wait to get an MSN until you know if you like nursing and which area you want to specialize in.

[werkinit]

I'm currently in a direct-entry MSN program in Northern California & the cohort who graduated last year all had jobs within 6 months of graduation.

One student in my class has already been accepted into a Versant new grad program and we don't even graduate until August.

At least in this area, the direct-entry MSNs are competitive applicants who are definitely being hired despite the poor job prospects.

[werkinit]

PS: I should add the none of the folks in my class are trying to be hired as MSN nurses, they're applying for new-grad nurse positions like everyone else. The competitive edge is that we have the MSN level academic training in research/management/Evidence-based practice implementation, so while building our clinical skills at the bedside we have additional skills sets that the hospital can utilize, and benefit from, as well.

[KeepItRealRN, BSN, RN]

PS: I should add the none of the folks in my class are trying to be hired as MSN nurses, they're applying for new-grad nurse positions like everyone else. The competitive edge is that we have the MSN level academic training in research/management/Evidence-based practice implementation, so while building our clinical skills at the bedside we have additional skills sets that the hospital can utilize, and benefit from, as well.

And that is a good thing, because how can you be a master of anything until you have callouses to prove it.

[werkinit]

And that is a good thing, because how can you be a master of anything until you have callouses to prove it.

Absolutely right. I don't think any of the students in my program, or the professors, have any misconceptions about how much we don't know. We're baby RNs through & through...the profs tell us to expect to work at the bedside at least 5 years to really feel a level of mastery over our clinical skills.

While completing the required RN competencies for entry into practice, we are also Master's prepared in the academic sense. I feel very confident in my ability to thoroughly review and critique current academic research & statistical evidence seeking out best practice nursing interventions--I got that one down. That's a useful skill at any level. ...but putting in an IV still feels nerve-wracking...

Someday, it will all blend together and I hope to be a really great nurse! At the end of the day, that's the most important thing right?

[joanna73, BSN, RN]

I think pursuing higher education is great, and I also hope to do a Masters. While I would agree that you are academically prepared, most employers in my region still frown upon hiring new grad Masters, because you're still a new grad. And, they have to pay a Masters RN at least 10,000 more per year. The whole concept behind a Masters is that you should merge real world experience with your education.

Some new grad Masters RNs are hired into research positions right away or teaching, but to claim to be a specialist at the bedside without prior experience really doesn't fly. You can't be a Clinical Nurse Specialist/ Leader on academics alone.

[0402]

At least in this area, the direct-entry MSNs are competitive applicants who are definitely being hired despite the poor job prospects.

I should add the none of the folks in my class are trying to be hired as MSN nurses, they're applying for new-grad nurse positions like everyone else. The competitive edge is that we have the MSN level academic training in research/management/Evidence-based practice implementation, so while building our clinical skills at the bedside we have additional skills sets that the hospital can utilize, and benefit from, as well

I had a similar experience in Southern California. A lot if it had to do with the reputation of the program itself and the caliber of new grads from that program.

I'm a little confused on the comment about not hiring new grad MSN RNs just because we have to get paid more. Where is this? Both in the area I graduated, as well as where I live now, there's a starting pay for new RNs. Period. MSNs make the same money as any other new grad. They are definitely not paying us $10K more per year (I know of 3 other direct entry MSNs at the hospital where I work). The MSN can enable us to move into other position as we gain experience, and hence may make more later, but for now, new is new.