IPN issues- 2015

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I was employed at a hospital January 2012- August 2014. I have 8 years experience as an RN, with NO issues. I was working as charge RN on PCU ( critical care unit), having worked my way up from staff RN. I was what you called " a nurse's nurse". I worked overtime, helped everyone out, and took on the difficult patients etc. My patient satisfaction score was high, and my yearly evaluation was excellent. I loved my job, my coworkers, and the patients. I love being a nurse.

In May 2014- my "husband" ( been together 23 years not legally married) attempted suicide. He has serious depression - and it cycles. This was from a car accident when he was 19 yrs old. He was in a coma for a week, and has been dealing with this mental illness ever since. I was working alot so I didn't realize how bad he was getting until the night he tried to hurt himself( he had been having "episodes" since feb. and would call me at work crying, and yes that affected me too). I tried to stop him and he attacked me, and I called the police on him. He went to jail. I also found out he was having an affair. I was devastated.

Not only was I dealing with the above, but I was having issues with my gallbladder/liver( pancreas?). I worked and was sick, with severe RUQ pain and nausea/vomiting. It became worse in June, and I had some imaging done. I was supposed to get an ERCP but I was terminated before I could use my insurance to do the testing.

The DON - saw me sick in the parking lot! I still went to work ( when I could) - and worked a lot for this hospital.

On top of that, my mother was in the hospital at the same time with sepsis and pancreatitis. So it was a ROUGH couple of months for me. But NEVER was I so emotionally upset or physically ill that I was a danger to public safety/patient care.

The first time I even knew anything was " amiss" with my nursing was after I told my boss about my husband attacking me etc., and I called out of work for a couple of days. My manager said " we need to talk. do you have anything to tell me? I said no , why? I had already told her everything about what I was going through, I had nothing to hide. I thought she was concerned about me. She stated" we had a nurse here once who's husband did the same thing and she was taking meds home to him". I said, "excuse me? She said that it has come to her attention that I was not wasting meds until the end of shift. I explained to her that no, WE all don't waste until the end of the shift because we are so freaking busy that we don't have time to stop for every waste in the pyxis. That is a bad nursing habit, but it is the real world of nursing. We all watch each other waste, and we all waste at the end of the shift. I told her that even all the ICU nurses do it, and it was common practice in our units. She checked in on this and guess what? There were signs up everywhere to "waste meds when you pull them " and there was a big to-do with all the nurses. So they couldn't write me up for that. The next thing I know - I am getting a "talk" again, this about charting a pain scale of 0 then half an hour later giving a pain med. It happens. Someone was a 0, then they started to hurt. Now, I have been at this hospital for almost 2 years and I have NEVER had in issue, now all of a sudden I feel that it's a "witch hunt" to get rid of me. All this has happened since I told them about my husband. My manager went behind my back and asked my patients if they received their pain meds, and they all said yes ( and what a great nurse I am etc.). So I had sign a paper that said" I will make sure I document pain scale accurately " ( something like that). So then a week or two later, I get a call saying I needed to come in and meet with the ADON and my manager.

I show up, and the ADON - tells me- "I don;t know what kind of nurse you are, but I don't like you."

Huh? They proceed to tell me that I am in "trouble", for not scanning all my meds ( they only care about the narcs- not antibiotics, IV fluids, or any of the other meds I didn't scan). Then they ask me about the 1 mg of morphine, and 0.25 mg of morphine I didn't waste in the pyxis. Over almost 2 years, these are the only two things I didn't waste in the pyxis ? She "assumed I gave them" therefore I gave a dose larger than was ordered- I am sure I charted in the computer the correct dose, but may have been so busy I forgot to do so in the pyxis. Geez, I know a lot of the nurses I worked with who forgot to waste meds too but they still have jobs. Or whose scans rates were really low. They are still working. Then she states i gave narcotics to a patient within 24 hours of discharge, and this was against policy. What policy? I have been a nurse long enough to know that we medicate patients 2-4 hrs up to discharge. This patient stayed an extra 4 days after his "supposed " discharge. This same patient was a pain in the butt- a "pain management -pt". He was on a TON of oral pain meds, plus a patch, plus he was evaluated for pain meds from a pain management doctor in the hospital. This doctor prescribed all his home pain meds, including dilaudid 2 mgs every 2 hours as needed. The surgeon who worked on this pt discontinued his most of his home pain meds, so yes, the pt needed pain meds every 2 hrs. I called the doctor several times to address this pt's pain complaints, and charted everything. I am told that I gave this pt more meds than any other nurse for one shift. This pt was self medicating when he first came in with his secret "stash" that I told his girlfriend not to bring in. You take away someone's meds and give them lower doses, they have issues. He was angry, and a clockwatcher. I took care of him for a week, trying to help him not be so angry and miserable. I never gave him medication outside what was ordered. ADON even checked the times I gave it-( every three hrs not just every 2) my manager asked this pt if he received his meds, and he said yes. ADON says " do you know what this looks like?'" I was completely blown away by all this, and felt like there was nothing I could say or do. I was not disciplined or warned about any of this. Then "threatened" - "contact IPN or I turn you into the board of nursing". 2 day window. I worked 7 days in a row for them when they were so short - staffed they couldn't get any one in to cover. I worked my ass off for this company and I feel like something's not right. I feel like I was wrongly terminated. If they thought I was having a problem- why not offer me a leave of absence? I had a lot going on in my personal life, but I never was a danger to patient safety- or violated the nurse practice act.

I guess I was just another warm body to them.

So I called IPN, and the intake lady told me they treated " burnout- stress, mental issues, not just drugs or alcohol issues". I thought I would get evaluated then be able to work. Get therapy, etc. I was wrong.

My first evaluator stated I was fine and had no issues.( except for mental health - recommended therapy etc.) I had a hair test done and it was positive for tramadol, which I had taken from a friend who told me it was not a controlled substance. Well, tramadol just became a controlled substance the end of August, and I didn't know that. But NOTHING else.

Then I had to do a repeat hair test, and it was negative. I tried looking for work and of course it is very hard to find a job with "key restriction" ( I was told this was because I didn't scan my meds all the time). In the mean time I have had negative UAs, one dilute, one abnormal.

About 5 - 6 weeks ago I was really sick. I had a migraine, sinus infection, and acute gallbladder/pancreatic pain. I dark urine, clay stools, RUQ severe pain, and nausea/vomiting. I was a mess. The only thing I kept down was smoothies- when I could keep something down. I also mix my smoothies with liquid vitamins. I was sick for approx. 3-4 days. All I had were smoothies. I had to pee in a cup while this was going on, and tested positive for ETG( etg?) So I was surprised when I found that out. Of course my case manager thinks I am a total boozer now, not taking into consideration that all my other tests are negative. So I offer to take a PEth test, and she declines stating I need to be "reevaluated". I did , and the new addictionologist didn't think I had any problems. I explained to him the only thing I found with ethanol in it was my liquid vitamins- 5.7%) and I sent him the label. I had used a different brand before that didn't have any etoh in it- ( GNC) but since I have no income I used a "bargain" brand that didn;t show ethanol on the website- who puts ethanol in vitamins??? Anyway, a week later ( 4wks from my positive UA) I have to take a PEth test. Another 2 weeks go by, and I see on the affinity website it is positive. Another week goes by ( today) I find out that IPN requires me to go to INPATIENT HOSPITALIZATION for my alcohol issue. *****?? My level was 27- and the cutoff was 20- I have read several conflicting reports on PEth, and I can assure you that I have not been consuming the required 7-8 drinks a day for 2 weeks to get that number. I have never had any issue with alcohol or drugs, I have never even asked for pain meds with my RUQ pain, or my ovarian cyst pain. Anyway - needless to say I feel like telling IPN what to do with their "recommendation". I can get a second opinion - should I? I have no income to pay for this new IPN requirement. I worked hard to be a nurse, and I am sad that this is what nurses who have issues have to go through. I didn't even know you could talk to a lawyer before signing an IPN contract!! I was forced into this, and I wasn't even in my right frame of mind. I was burnt out from work, and my personal life. I felt like I had no choice.

I tripped in urine during this time at this hospital and had to do a random UA- it was negative.

So, history for me- childhood abuse, and sexual assault while I was working as an RN in the middle east 2010-2011. I am in therapy, and that's really all I needed. Time off from work, and therapy. Not more stress, or inpatient rehab!!! I went from having NO issues with and substance - now I am a raging , unsafe alcoholic......the power of IPN!!! Unbelievable.

I thank you for your time, and look forward to talking to you. I appreciate any advice you may have. Please let me know if there is anything else I can provide for you that may help you evaluate my case.

Sorry that I rambled- I wanted to get everything out - I am sure you hear from nurses with worse cases than mine. I am grateful for any information you may have regarding my situation- If you think I have a case- I could sell my car. But I not going to rehab.

I went to school after I got fired- I graduated with my esthetician license. I am currently looking for a job in this field, since I can't take the Hospice job I got accepted for due to my "alcohol addiction"....seriously - IPN is not a good program for nurses. I would eventually like to start a fund for nurses going through this- to help pay attorney /rehab/ testing etc costs since they don't have jobs either.

Sincerely,

NurseEmRn

( felt good to write my story - and get it all out!)

letter to potential attorney

Am I crazy??????? I am now!!!!!!

Specializes in ER, ICU/CCU, Open Heart OR Recovery, Etc.

Luckily in my state, it specifically states that if you have an expunged criminal conviction, you are not obligated to reveal it. Just make sure you have the court paperwork to back it up with. You are also not required to report convictions unless it's either for initial licensure or since your last renewal period. For the most part, if you can demonstrate significant recovery time, documented recovery time, you won't get slammed for it.

On the other hand, they do use Affinity. There are interesting snafus with reporting UDS results as well. There are none that I've been called on, but some have been reported as "Abnormal". Who knows what that means. There's a tab where one can check compliance with testing, and that reads nothing. Nor have I heard from my caseworker, nor seen an increase in the frequency of testing.

Specializes in OR.

Because I drink water all day (tendancy towards kidney issues) I am terrified of getting a dilute. I therefore am in the habit of doing the stupid check-in at 4am (I'm usually getting up then anyway) and if I must go, I do a pee pee dance (fabulous for the aforementioned kidney issues) until 6am when the lab opens and go 1st thing. Even with this snafu, that routine was no different. I challenge them to find an issue with this that is anything other than clerical. Just another way that I have been forced to alter my self care for this idiot outfit.

Specializes in PDN; Burn; Phone triage.

I had a partial result reported through Affinity. A few hours later, it changed to "further processing." Two days later, it was reported as normal. I called my program, freaking out, and was told that they had never received anything from Affinity saying that something was amiss. I was also told to take a chill pill which was poor wording, lol.

You should have asked them what kind of "chill pill" you could have taken. That would have been interesting.

I have chronic kidney stones, and drink about one gallon of water every day. If I had to do UDS, I'd have my urologist write a letter stating that my one gallon water intake was mandatory to avoid getting kidney stones. It's ridiculous that you have to risk your own health for a UDS. Let them do serum drug screens so you can drink the amount of water you need.

Specializes in ER, ICU/CCU, Open Heart OR Recovery, Etc.

I've had questions for a while about how Affinity reports things, time length and otherwise. Since I have heard nothing from my caseworker about any issues, I am assuming no news is good news and am thus not worrying about it. So much of what they tell you when you begin these programs is designed to scare people. Seems counterproductive but it is what it is.

On the other hand, part of making it through these programs is learning to live well in spite of being on a tether. I take precautions, don't drink and don't use, and do the best I can to follow instructions. But I will not live in fear. I did that when I was using and it sucks.

Specializes in OR.

I am having a head-desk, face-palm moment about this junk. So I actually say something at that "support group" thing yesterday. I rarely say much of anything beyond banal doing fine, nothing new, whatever. I am the only mental health participant in a room full of substance use folks. I am a bit angry because i am shopping graduate programs and getting doors shut in many programs because "I don't have an unemcumbered" license. Is that the buzzword for the "we don't deal with those IPN people because y'all are a bunch of junkies" mentality? I was proactive and did everything right and still got nailed the wall. Those people said "you've got to put this behind you." Yes I do, but the IPN system seems to make absolutely sure that does not happen. Even from the moderator i got the "you should be grateful they didn't just tear up your license" bull, complete with hand gestures. Yeah, real supportive.

Would someone please enlighten me on how this junk is supposed to "protect the public." Humiliate the heck out of me, financially ruin me, mess with my head, trash my career and keep me from trying to move forward. yet, telling me to "put it behind me and "forgive myself." Is it just me or can all this recovery bull**** be twisted to suit the moment? So unless I swallow all the slogans, hook line and sinker (speaking of slogans, heh), this is never going to end? Was I the only one in that room who thinks there's something fundamentally wrong with this whole situation.

I realize that the "system" is bigger and apparently stronger than me, but I can totally understand those folks who gave IPN and the BON a rude hand gesture and went on their merry way. The problem is I have been in healthcare so long that I don't know how to do anything else and the funds are not there to go to school for something non-nursing related. Also, for some reason, in spite of the crummy way that nurses are treated in general and the scarlet letters of IPN, i actually like working with my patients. i guess I like to flog myself....or something....

Specializes in OR.

So recently I was filling out my lovely quarterly "self report" for IPN. Per usual, it asks if I have a sponsor and so forth. As it was a mental health issue that landed me here, I have never been sure what I am supposed to get from mandated meeting attendance other than a complete waste of my time. AA says that "the only requirement for attendance is a desire to stop drinking." ( I know this from getting 12step stuff shoved at my for nearly the last 2 years). Mmmmm....how can i want to stop doing something I never did in the first place? Anyhow, I go to the meetings, sit in the back row or corner and either read or daydream, put another tick on my list and be on my way. One of the questions on the report is if i have a sponsor and how often we meet etc. My question is how (and why) the heck would I get a sponsor for something that is totally irrelevant to my situation. So I have always checked "No I do not have a sponsor." At the bottom, where it says "would I like for them to contact me regarding anything and if so how." Every quarter i put that I'd like for the meeting attendance requirement be removed from my contract. Every quarter i am completely ignored. I doubt they actually read these things, but if they do, I wonder if that request is ignored because of the "no sponsor" issue. As IPN is in the habit of keeping us in the dark about a lot of things, does anyone else have thoughts on this?

Specializes in ER, ICU/CCU, Open Heart OR Recovery, Etc.

Its not just IPN. My state also requires meeting attendance, even though I've been clean for 15 years and had no issues with anything other than benzodiazepines. At one point, my caseworker tried to tell me I was required to have a sponsor, I pointed out the wording in my contract that stated I was not required to have one.

So I think this is, as has been well stated in this thread, another example of how they lump all of us together and don't individualize their "healing" work.

Hi all! Been awhile! Sooooo........

I never made enough money for my retainer to go to DOH court. In the mean time I went to massage school and got my massage license. I was working again and loving my massage career. In August 2017 I couldn't renew my massage license because I was on the OIG list due to myRN

License suspension. If you don't know about th is please check their site, and start the process of getting your name off of it! This is the site that manages medicare, if you are on it you cant work anywhere that deals with medicare. So it took 3 months to get my name off the list, but I got evicted from my apartment and have had to move back home to nc.

I don't miss Florida!! I'm attempting to get my RN license here, and I will be working as a massage therapist as well. Cost of living is much lower, people are much friendlier.

I am still actively working on getting the IPN in florida investigated. I wanted to tell you all that if you need a new career that pays great and uses your nursing knowledge.ho to massage school. 4- 6 months and you can get govt. Money to pay for it. I love it. It's rewarding helping peoplefeel.good. I only work 6 hrs, and make approx. 40an hour. No call bells!! Lol. Will keep you all updated.

OMG, I was the only mental health member in a room full of addicts. How does that "meeting" help us? Why drug test us? Why can't those of us with NO addiction issues take a benadryl?

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