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I was employed at a hospital January 2012- August 2014. I have 8 years experience as an RN, with NO issues. I was working as charge RN on PCU ( critical care unit), having worked my way up from staff RN. I was what you called " a nurse's nurse". I worked overtime, helped everyone out, and took on the difficult patients etc. My patient satisfaction score was high, and my yearly evaluation was excellent. I loved my job, my coworkers, and the patients. I love being a nurse.
In May 2014- my "husband" ( been together 23 years not legally married) attempted suicide. He has serious depression - and it cycles. This was from a car accident when he was 19 yrs old. He was in a coma for a week, and has been dealing with this mental illness ever since. I was working alot so I didn't realize how bad he was getting until the night he tried to hurt himself( he had been having "episodes" since feb. and would call me at work crying, and yes that affected me too). I tried to stop him and he attacked me, and I called the police on him. He went to jail. I also found out he was having an affair. I was devastated.
Not only was I dealing with the above, but I was having issues with my gallbladder/liver( pancreas?). I worked and was sick, with severe RUQ pain and nausea/vomiting. It became worse in June, and I had some imaging done. I was supposed to get an ERCP but I was terminated before I could use my insurance to do the testing.
The DON - saw me sick in the parking lot! I still went to work ( when I could) - and worked a lot for this hospital.
On top of that, my mother was in the hospital at the same time with sepsis and pancreatitis. So it was a ROUGH couple of months for me. But NEVER was I so emotionally upset or physically ill that I was a danger to public safety/patient care.
The first time I even knew anything was " amiss" with my nursing was after I told my boss about my husband attacking me etc., and I called out of work for a couple of days. My manager said " we need to talk. do you have anything to tell me? I said no , why? I had already told her everything about what I was going through, I had nothing to hide. I thought she was concerned about me. She stated" we had a nurse here once who's husband did the same thing and she was taking meds home to him". I said, "excuse me? She said that it has come to her attention that I was not wasting meds until the end of shift. I explained to her that no, WE all don't waste until the end of the shift because we are so freaking busy that we don't have time to stop for every waste in the pyxis. That is a bad nursing habit, but it is the real world of nursing. We all watch each other waste, and we all waste at the end of the shift. I told her that even all the ICU nurses do it, and it was common practice in our units. She checked in on this and guess what? There were signs up everywhere to "waste meds when you pull them " and there was a big to-do with all the nurses. So they couldn't write me up for that. The next thing I know - I am getting a "talk" again, this about charting a pain scale of 0 then half an hour later giving a pain med. It happens. Someone was a 0, then they started to hurt. Now, I have been at this hospital for almost 2 years and I have NEVER had in issue, now all of a sudden I feel that it's a "witch hunt" to get rid of me. All this has happened since I told them about my husband. My manager went behind my back and asked my patients if they received their pain meds, and they all said yes ( and what a great nurse I am etc.). So I had sign a paper that said" I will make sure I document pain scale accurately " ( something like that). So then a week or two later, I get a call saying I needed to come in and meet with the ADON and my manager.
I show up, and the ADON - tells me- "I don;t know what kind of nurse you are, but I don't like you."
Huh? They proceed to tell me that I am in "trouble", for not scanning all my meds ( they only care about the narcs- not antibiotics, IV fluids, or any of the other meds I didn't scan). Then they ask me about the 1 mg of morphine, and 0.25 mg of morphine I didn't waste in the pyxis. Over almost 2 years, these are the only two things I didn't waste in the pyxis ? She "assumed I gave them" therefore I gave a dose larger than was ordered- I am sure I charted in the computer the correct dose, but may have been so busy I forgot to do so in the pyxis. Geez, I know a lot of the nurses I worked with who forgot to waste meds too but they still have jobs. Or whose scans rates were really low. They are still working. Then she states i gave narcotics to a patient within 24 hours of discharge, and this was against policy. What policy? I have been a nurse long enough to know that we medicate patients 2-4 hrs up to discharge. This patient stayed an extra 4 days after his "supposed " discharge. This same patient was a pain in the butt- a "pain management -pt". He was on a TON of oral pain meds, plus a patch, plus he was evaluated for pain meds from a pain management doctor in the hospital. This doctor prescribed all his home pain meds, including dilaudid 2 mgs every 2 hours as needed. The surgeon who worked on this pt discontinued his most of his home pain meds, so yes, the pt needed pain meds every 2 hrs. I called the doctor several times to address this pt's pain complaints, and charted everything. I am told that I gave this pt more meds than any other nurse for one shift. This pt was self medicating when he first came in with his secret "stash" that I told his girlfriend not to bring in. You take away someone's meds and give them lower doses, they have issues. He was angry, and a clockwatcher. I took care of him for a week, trying to help him not be so angry and miserable. I never gave him medication outside what was ordered. ADON even checked the times I gave it-( every three hrs not just every 2) my manager asked this pt if he received his meds, and he said yes. ADON says " do you know what this looks like?'" I was completely blown away by all this, and felt like there was nothing I could say or do. I was not disciplined or warned about any of this. Then "threatened" - "contact IPN or I turn you into the board of nursing". 2 day window. I worked 7 days in a row for them when they were so short - staffed they couldn't get any one in to cover. I worked my ass off for this company and I feel like something's not right. I feel like I was wrongly terminated. If they thought I was having a problem- why not offer me a leave of absence? I had a lot going on in my personal life, but I never was a danger to patient safety- or violated the nurse practice act.
I guess I was just another warm body to them.
So I called IPN, and the intake lady told me they treated " burnout- stress, mental issues, not just drugs or alcohol issues". I thought I would get evaluated then be able to work. Get therapy, etc. I was wrong.
My first evaluator stated I was fine and had no issues.( except for mental health - recommended therapy etc.) I had a hair test done and it was positive for tramadol, which I had taken from a friend who told me it was not a controlled substance. Well, tramadol just became a controlled substance the end of August, and I didn't know that. But NOTHING else.
Then I had to do a repeat hair test, and it was negative. I tried looking for work and of course it is very hard to find a job with "key restriction" ( I was told this was because I didn't scan my meds all the time). In the mean time I have had negative UAs, one dilute, one abnormal.
About 5 - 6 weeks ago I was really sick. I had a migraine, sinus infection, and acute gallbladder/pancreatic pain. I dark urine, clay stools, RUQ severe pain, and nausea/vomiting. I was a mess. The only thing I kept down was smoothies- when I could keep something down. I also mix my smoothies with liquid vitamins. I was sick for approx. 3-4 days. All I had were smoothies. I had to pee in a cup while this was going on, and tested positive for ETG( etg?) So I was surprised when I found that out. Of course my case manager thinks I am a total boozer now, not taking into consideration that all my other tests are negative. So I offer to take a PEth test, and she declines stating I need to be "reevaluated". I did , and the new addictionologist didn't think I had any problems. I explained to him the only thing I found with ethanol in it was my liquid vitamins- 5.7%) and I sent him the label. I had used a different brand before that didn't have any etoh in it- ( GNC) but since I have no income I used a "bargain" brand that didn;t show ethanol on the website- who puts ethanol in vitamins??? Anyway, a week later ( 4wks from my positive UA) I have to take a PEth test. Another 2 weeks go by, and I see on the affinity website it is positive. Another week goes by ( today) I find out that IPN requires me to go to INPATIENT HOSPITALIZATION for my alcohol issue. *****?? My level was 27- and the cutoff was 20- I have read several conflicting reports on PEth, and I can assure you that I have not been consuming the required 7-8 drinks a day for 2 weeks to get that number. I have never had any issue with alcohol or drugs, I have never even asked for pain meds with my RUQ pain, or my ovarian cyst pain. Anyway - needless to say I feel like telling IPN what to do with their "recommendation". I can get a second opinion - should I? I have no income to pay for this new IPN requirement. I worked hard to be a nurse, and I am sad that this is what nurses who have issues have to go through. I didn't even know you could talk to a lawyer before signing an IPN contract!! I was forced into this, and I wasn't even in my right frame of mind. I was burnt out from work, and my personal life. I felt like I had no choice.
I tripped in urine during this time at this hospital and had to do a random UA- it was negative.
So, history for me- childhood abuse, and sexual assault while I was working as an RN in the middle east 2010-2011. I am in therapy, and that's really all I needed. Time off from work, and therapy. Not more stress, or inpatient rehab!!! I went from having NO issues with and substance - now I am a raging , unsafe alcoholic......the power of IPN!!! Unbelievable.
I thank you for your time, and look forward to talking to you. I appreciate any advice you may have. Please let me know if there is anything else I can provide for you that may help you evaluate my case.
Sorry that I rambled- I wanted to get everything out - I am sure you hear from nurses with worse cases than mine. I am grateful for any information you may have regarding my situation- If you think I have a case- I could sell my car. But I not going to rehab.
I went to school after I got fired- I graduated with my esthetician license. I am currently looking for a job in this field, since I can't take the Hospice job I got accepted for due to my "alcohol addiction"....seriously - IPN is not a good program for nurses. I would eventually like to start a fund for nurses going through this- to help pay attorney /rehab/ testing etc costs since they don't have jobs either.
Sincerely,
NurseEmRn
( felt good to write my story - and get it all out!)
letter to potential attorney
Am I crazy??????? I am now!!!!!!
How did rehab do a "wallet biopsy" on your parents? I remember you saying that your parents helped you pay for the rehab. What they have or don't have is none of their business.
But I know---if you knew then what you know now, things would have been very different. I think most people can say that.
I would still have asked for an itemized invoice for the "investigative costs", though. Who did the "investigation" and what did the "investigation" consist of? I can say something really obscene here, but I won't.
That amount is obscene, no matter if you have a legit problem or not. If you have insurance, insurance covers inpatient and outpatient rehab, and there is no reason why you couldn't have done it that way instead of going to a private place that doesn't accept insurance.
The wallet biopsy thing was a joke. Nobody, including IPN ever said a thing about going anywhere that was not on their little list for the evaluation. The first eval 'recomnended' an extended neuropsychistric testing thing (which of course his facility could do for a couple thousand bucks) but that guy made my skin crawl. The one I went to (again, IPN directed) was the same thing. Turned out that week of testing represented the first week of their standard program that they shove everyone through. They had contacted my parents and set up all the financials before they even spoke to me about staying. Then they had the nerve to document that I voluntarily requested admission????? Wut?
So yeah, crock of corruption since the very beginning.
The wallet biopsy thing was a joke. They had contacted my parents and set up all the financials before they even spoke to me about staying. Then they had the nerve to document that I voluntarily requested admission????? Wut?So yeah, crock of corruption since the very beginning.
did you give them permission to contact your parents?
I don't recall directly saying/signing anything that said they could discuss money, etc with them, but frankly who knows. At this point I know in my heart that this whole thing (IPN, the BOH/BON, the "recovery industry) is a racket that is propelled by the almighty dollar and I am stuck in it with no way out. It's not right. It's not fair, and above all, its unethical. But like a lot of things, I can't fix it, but by G-d, I will not let it run/ruin my life.
Legitimate rehab/recovery places are not a scam----they accept insurance, have certified counselors working there, etc. I have a nephew that is a CASAC and he works in one so I know they're not all like that. Then again, the place he works at isn't getting referrals from BON or the DOH----I guess if somebody wanted to pay cash, they could, but it accepts all kinds of insurance.
What kind of "neuropsychiatric testing" takes 2 weeks to complete? I'd be interested to know exactly what is tested in a 2 week period of time that can't be done in one day. Furthermore, if you got roped into IPN because of drug use, why did you need "neuropsychiatric testing" in the first place? Just order you to go to rehab instead of all these ridiculous evaluations/tests. I can't imagine that some lawyer or media person wouldn't love to get their hooks into this whole thing..............
The things is, healthcare in general is sadly propelled by the almighty dollar.
This is more a rant about IPN and Affinity and the constantly flushing money toilet that this is. But hey, its been a minute since i vented about something......So once again, as is my routine, I go on to the Affinity site to log my "complete waste of time" meeting attendance and there is an automated "alert" that there is a missing chain of collection number. Really? No kidding. Isn't that what I documented the day it happened? There is a chain of collection number, just not one that Affinity can hook to my actual test. (I failed to hit submit and complete the registration before i went to pee.)
I know its the holiday, but it seems like these people routinely ignore anything we try to tell them, no matter how innocuous until we push really hard to get an answer. The BON ignored my efforts to tell them that was was no need to "board order" me into something i had long since done voluntarily, but that too was ignored. Not suprising.
So now I get to worry for however many days it takes these people to get around to responding to me, not because i am worried about the result (i'm not) but because this whole thing is wayyyyyyy more punitive than anything I've ever seen. Other than exacerbating the anxiety and depression that got me here in the first place, exactly what good is it for. My reputation and career is in shreds and I am severely limited in my advancement opportunities. I don't know how much more punishment i can take for the crime of having a mental health disorder. My therapist and my psychiatrist repeatedly document on their reports that the forced 12-step attendance is counterproductive. Thus far that has been ignored. Why do they make them turn in any reports if they are not read? According to my therapist, all the 6 months of inappropriate rehab did was give me PTSD. Great. You think IPN gives a rat's orifice? No. I'm over this garbage. If I did not love my job and love being a nurse, I would tell these jerks to take their contract and put it where the sun doesn't shine.
Am I still angry about all of this? Yes! Unequivocally Yes! No, I do not have any "serenity", I am not "grateful" or any of that bull. I am mad as heck. (I prefer much worse language, but.....) I am not sure if I am mad at all this garbage or mad that I can't do a darn thing about it. (besides unload it here.)
If the whole "in recovery" thing suits you and helps you, great. I'm glad. But that stuff says "be honest with yourself, etc". I am being honest with myself. i cannot force myself to be something i am not. it's not helpful, and I would be deluding myself if I thought it was.
I suspect many of these programs are just cash cows for certain people. The former director of my state's monitoring program was also a treatment provider/director at a treatment facility--interestingly, the one they referred people in the program to for "evaluations" and treatment. And was on the board of directors for an addiction drug's "education" program. Who knows how and where other physicians and treatment providers were involved.
These conflicts of interest were easily found out by me after a brief online search--and I'm hardly a computer-savvy person. Anyone could find out what I did. How can they give such power to people who clearly benefit from "recommending" treatment? You can't refuse an evaluation or treatment if ordered to go by the Board or its monitoring program--your license will get snatched away in a heartbeat.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: It's all about the money, honey. If someone gets helped, that's awesome, but it's not what these
programs are really about, in my opinion. It's sad, but also absolutely infuriating.
Honestly, I had no problem with IPN in my brief experience with them. Of course, I actually did things wrong, so I deserved what happened to me. My current state's program--oh, don't even get me started. Beyond awful. I'm just glad I'm finally done, but I swear I was suffering from a mild form of PTSD after I got out--I'm not kidding.
I have 3 years, 9 months and 19 days left....but who's counting:yawn:
The first thing my therapist said when I saw her after the so-called "treatment" nightmare, was "I bet you've thought more about drugs and alcohol in the last 6 months than in your entire life." Yep, that'd be correct....
So in regards to the UDS snafu from last week, buried in the Affinity site, I found where one can log a COC#, I guess if you go somewhere besides Labcorp. I tried that in an effort to help link the manual one to the one that Affinity assigns. i guess it worked, i still don't really know and its over a week now. The history page says "partial result"? What the heck is that? I would think you either have a result or you don't. I tried to send a note to my case manager, only to find out that my case manager has changed? When did that happen? I have no idea. Would have been nice to have been informed of that little tidbit!
It seems that these programs keep you in the dark until there is an issue (like this one) and then regardless of what the issue was, it's your fault. Period! The stock answer is "refer to your participant manual." Well, I can tell ya, this one ain't in there.
I have a hard time believing that the test selection is really random. The first 5 months or so of this, I had to go every two weeks like clockwork on the same day. For good reasons, i am very suspicious of the workings and the motives of anything remotely related to this whole process. It is almost like it is engineered for failure. I dunno. I'm sorry but I will never have a good attitude about any of this junk!
It's like being partially pregnant, right? "Are you pregnant?" "Partially."
If Affinity can't get their act together to do the urine screens properly, then they shouldn't be permitted to govern the process. It sounds like there are numerous problems with Affinity. While there can always be problems with labs and urine screens, I never heard of all these problems when you went straight to Labcorp and the results were sent directly to them.
You should be suspicious. They want you to fail so they can justify their paycheck. Why do you think nurses who have something from 30 years ago get called to the boards? On another website, somebody had a charge from 30 years ago that was expunged, has been a nurse for 20 years and got in trouble for not reporting the charge, as per their attorney's counsel. If a charge is expunged, it's like it never existed in the first place. It can't be found on a background check. So, for being honest, you get punished by the BON. That kind of negates the whole honesty thing now, doesn't it?
CryssyD----I'd love to be a fly on the wall at a hearing to see the looks on the faces of the BON if an attorney finds that stuff out & questions the BON about their roles in the process, and why they restrict their referrals only to places where there are parties that stand to profit from their referrals. It is a very underhanded process in many states, and that is what has to be stopped. A program that could actually be very beneficial for many is clouded by extremely suspicious circumstances in many states. It's when BON pull nurses in that really have no business being in a drug rehab program that you have to question their motives. Someone that got a DWI 20 years ago doesn't need drug rehab. But that's what they do.
catsmeow1972, BSN, RN
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The "investigative costs" were from the DOH. I've no idea how they arrive at the amounts they do but seemingly it is different for every case. I wonder if someone just throws a dart at a bingo card and where it lands determines the fee. This was over and above the "evaluation" costs. This whole thing over the last 2 years, including the so-called rehab that was not needed, has run in excess of 50K. Most of that was the fact that the sleazy rehab did a wallet biopsy on my parents and it came back positive. Pretty obscene for a single occurance related to unmedicated depression.