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Intrusive application questions!

I was recently completing my hiring paperwork for a pediatric home health company, and I came upon a "health history" page. It asked me to list every surgery I've ever had, the date, and why. It then asked me to list any new or chronic health conditions I've been diagnosed with in the last 5 years!!! When I asked why they need all that information; they stated it was pertinent to ensure we're capable of performing the functions required for the job! Also, they sent a paper to each of your prior employers that had to be returned prior to starting where they graded you 1-5 on dependability, attitude, etc., then asked if we were ever disciplined and why. I very honestly told them I had no interest in working for an employer that felt entitled to that much personal information, especially home health that offered average pay and said they are building clientele and have people who have been hired for 5 months that haven't gotten a patient yet!!! Forget it!! Anyone else have their employers ask questions this personal?

umbdude, MSN, NP

Specializes in Psych/Mental Health.

Check the laws. Employers might ask, but that doesn't mean you must tell them (especially things such as HIV and mental illnesses). If they ask for your health records, I would not provide anything more than immunization records and a letter from my PCP stating that I don't have any conditions that would impede my ability to perform the work.

As for prior employer checks, I think that's pretty standard and most employers run a check on that.

But you can always walk away and not work for them. Most employment applications are annoying to fill out. I just give them very basic information and let them figure things out themselves.

Yeah...I certainly chose to pass on them. I do believe it's standard for them to contact prior employers...having them fill out a whole survey was surprising lol. We always have the right to turn a job down, I just feel in the last handful of years employers feel more entitled to know what you do in your life and able to control it. E.g., testing for nicotine upon hiring!

For my job on a gero-psych unit, I was asked: if a had a boyfriend or husband, and then I was asked if I planned on becoming pregnant in the next two years.

I kept the shock off my face! But my head was like *****

FolksBtrippin, BSN, RN

Specializes in Psychiatry, Pediatrics, Public Health.

For my job on a gero-psych unit, I was asked: if a had a boyfriend or husband, and then I was asked if I planned on becoming pregnant in the next two years.

I kept the shock off my face! But my head was like *****

Wow. That is illegal in the US. What year was this? What country?

Every single large company that I have worked for has asked for the exact same information. I think it's more of a formality than anything. Never got any follow up questions and always got the positions I applied for

KelRN215, BSN, RN

Specializes in Pedi.

For my job on a gero-psych unit, I was asked: if a had a boyfriend or husband, and then I was asked if I planned on becoming pregnant in the next two years.

I kept the shock off my face! But my head was like *****

That is definitely 100% illegal in the US.

Wow. That is illegal in the US. What year was this? What country?

Yup, I knew they were illegal questions, it was the 20teens, and good old USA.

Also, they sent a paper to each of your prior employers that had to be returned prior to starting where they graded you 1-5 on dependability, attitude, etc., then asked if we were ever disciplined and why. I very honestly told them I had no interest in working for an employer that felt entitled to that much personal information, especially home health that offered average pay and said they are building clientele and have people who have been hired for 5 months that haven't gotten a patient yet!!! Forget it!!

The questions about your work history, dependability, etc. were not personal questions. The questions about your medical history, however, were pretty intrusive. I wouldn't be answering those kinds of questions either.

I know, it happened right here in the US, people still ask the "illegal"questions, theres virtually nothing you can do other than wipe the shock off your face.

This person also would call and leave a message (I learned never to answer my phone), about picking up a shift and if you didn't call back would call you back 8,9,10 times. This person would also change peoples time cards from home if they punched out late (illegal as well)

That was a FUN place to work.

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The questions about your work history, dependability, etc. were not personal questions. The questions about your medical history, however, were pretty intrusive. I wouldn't be answering those kinds of questions either.

They ask the questions about health for insurance and workers comp reasons. One of the places I worked changed insurance companies and they wanted a health questionaire filled out by everyone so they could "set premiums" I refused to do it as I didnt feel they had any reason for legitimate need for the info.

Wow. That is illegal in the US. What year was this? What country?

That's what I wondered! Was this in the 50's? Those are all on the list of things we're expressly prohibited from asking!

The questions about your work history, dependability, etc. were not personal questions. The questions about your medical history, however, were pretty intrusive. I wouldn't be answering those kinds of questions either.

Yes your work history is open season. That wasn't what I considered intrusive. I just never have seen a full sheet that had to be sent back before employment can start. I think every job I've had has required contacting former employers. Just found the questionnaire itself to be odd and something I've not seen before!

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D’oh grammar!

I know, it happened right here in the US, people still ask the "illegal"questions, theres virtually nothing you can do other than wipe the shock off your face.

This person also would call and leave a message (I learned never to answer my phone), about picking up a shift and if you didn't call back would call you back 8,9,10 times. This person would also change peoples time cards from home if they punched out late (illegal as well)

That was a FUN place to work.

Did you report the time card changes to Dept. of Labor or whoever would be interested in that sort of thing?

How were time cards changed from home?

Pixie.RN, MSN, RN, EMT-P

Specializes in EMS, ED, Trauma, CNE, CEN, CPEN, TCRN.

For a government nursing position, I had to have a physical with an occ health PA as well as a lab draw - and not just labs for titers. One job (civilian, not military or government) measured my waist as part of my employment inprocessing, when I did the fit test and all that. Military nursing was 200% all up in my business. So, yes. Sometimes I have been asked a lot of personal questions for employment.

Well good thing they didn't want to measure my waist...I'd have been disqualified right there! :roflmao: nteresting experience ! We already know we're held to higher standards than other fields. I wonder where it's appropriate to draw the line? I have though seen people who were not "fit" mentally or physically for their occupation and it would probably be best to ensure they were.

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KatieMI, BSN, MSN, RN

Specializes in ICU, LTACH, Internal Medicine.

I found out that many of these questions are, in fact, optional and nobody cares if they are even answered.

I was so pissed off with one recent hospital staff application which asked, among many other things, about my husband's and "other partner's" (I still wonder who he or she might be) name, contact and occupation that I wrote over that part "why do you ever care?" The response was immediate, fully apologetic, and like "oh, we just wanted to know more about you - but if you do not want, that's fine".

Yeah, guys. If I ever decide to get a lover, you'd not gotta be the first to know about it (sarcasmometer rings up) :sarcastic:

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NurseCard, ADN

Specializes in Med/Surge, Psych, LTC, Home Health.

For my job on a gero-psych unit, I was asked: if a had a boyfriend or husband, and then I was asked if I planned on becoming pregnant in the next two years.

I kept the shock off my face! But my head was like *****

I got asked pretty much that exact same question once. Wasn't a nursing job, but

a graphic design job. Still... geez, get a clue people.

The great thing was, the interviewer's attitude made me not want the

job anyway. So I didn't give a rat's behind.

That moment.. that moment during an interview when you've

decided that you DON'T WANT this job... that's when you start

messing with your interviewers. "Will I have time during the

day to set up my altar? I need you to know, I'll be bringing

in crystal bottles full of goat's blood, and sacrificial baby

chickens". That kinda thing.

TriciaJ, RN

Specializes in Psych, Corrections, Med-Surg, Ambulatory.

Well good thing they didn't want to measure my waist...I'd have been disqualified right there! :roflmao: nteresting experience ! We already know we're held to higher standards than other fields. I wonder where it's appropriate to draw the line? I have though seen people who were not "fit" mentally or physically for their occupation and it would probably be best to ensure they were.

It's pretty appropriate to draw the line at questions that can be asked legally.

Julius Seizure

Specializes in Pediatric Critical Care.

It seems like every job I've had in my life, as time has progressed, has become more and more intrusive in the info that it asks. The last one had a two page check list of potential diseases/diagnoses, including a write-in section for any hx of mental health problems (past or current). Specific items that they wanted to know about on the checklist also included frequent hemorrhoids, a weak urine stream, menstrual cramps, heavy or irregular menstrual bleeding, number of pregnancies and living children, and if I examined my testicles regularly.

They also wanted to know every medication, including OTCs and vitamins/supplements (past and present!) that I had taken.

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