Question about UK levels

Silverdragon102, BSN · Sep 9, 2006

I hope someone has the time to answer this question for me. What is the difference between an RGN level 1 and Level 2?

Level 2 is what used to be called Enrolled nurse, their training was 2 years to Staff nurse's 3 years.

I know cos I used to be one

Hope this helps

Noahm · Sep 9, 2006

Thanks for your reply. I work in the UK, but I am USA trained so some of these terms are lost on me!! I guess an enrolled nurse is like an LPN?

Silverdragon102, BSN · Sep 9, 2006

Thanks for your reply. I work in the UK, but I am USA trained so some of these terms are lost on me!! I guess an enrolled nurse is like an LPN?

yes but EN's haven't been trained for a long time but still some practicing as they haven't done the conversion course.

how are you finding working in the UK?

cariad · Sep 10, 2006

the lpn training is only a year long and the enrolled nurse training was 2 years long. some staes dont allow lpns to do certain things in nursing whereas an enrolled nurse can do 99.9% of things in the uk.

where I work lpns cant push iv meds. and some places they are not allowed to hang blood or take care of chest tubes.

then again, I worked in the VI and lpns did everything the same as me. although I understand as the rn I was responsible for them. even if the rn makes an assignment for the lpn and then the lpn makes a mistake she can blame the rn for giving her the wrong patient.

Silverdragon102, BSN · Sep 10, 2006

that is true, many a time I took charge as EN but this was mainly on nights and was an acceptable norm. The other thing to add is EN's are accountable for their own actions and can't blame the RN

RGN1 · Sep 10, 2006

On the new NMC guidelines you'll find that RN1 is the old RGN qualification - that is the general nurse trained in all the basics including paeds, psychiatry & maternity. RN2 is the enrolled nurse. RNA (hahaha - sounds genetic to me) is the new fangled, not general trained adult nurse.

Paed nurses are RN8/RNC, learning disabilities are RN5/RNLD, mental health is now RN3/RNMH & midwives are RM.

Ridiculous I know!!!! I've just checked it all out on my license form!!

english_nurse · Sep 10, 2006

On the new NMC guidelines you'll find that RN1 is the old RGN qualification - that is the general nurse trained in all the basics including paeds, psychiatry & maternity. RN2 is the enrolled nurse. RNA (hahaha - sounds genetic to me) is the new fangled, not general trained adult nurse.
Paed nurses are RN8/RNC, learning disabilities are RN5/RNLD, mental health is now RN3/RNMH & midwives are RM.
Ridiculous I know!!!! I've just checked it all out on my license form!!

its nice to know the nmc are earning their increased registration fees and putting the money to good use :uhoh21:

Fiona59 · Sep 10, 2006

LPN training varies from province to province and country to country. I was trained over 4 academic semesters (two years of college). My practice is restricted by my employer and I'm not utilized to my full scope of practice. I don't report to an RN, unless its the Charge, carry my own Liability Insurance and am held accountable for my practice/actions. Must be nice to be able to blame someone else....

cariad · Sep 11, 2006

I used to make the assignments for the day shift as I was the charge on nights. after some complaints about the assignment from one particular LPN, I took a course which was jahco regulated about delegation regarding the assignments and then found out that the LPN could take the assignment but ultimately I was responsible for making it. after that I refused to make assignments for nurses that were coming to work after I had gone home. I didnt mind assigning the LPN's that worked with me.

just to add, this particular LPN would complain about everything and anyone. the LPNs that worked with me took responsibility for their actions which is the way that it should be.

RGN1 · Sep 11, 2006

its nice to know the nmc are earning their increased registration fees and putting the money to good use :uhoh21:

:roll :roll