Infuriating Code Status Changes

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One thing I've had a really hard time with ethically, especially in the past few months, is when an alert, oriented, informed, patient is admitted- usually a COVID patient- and makes themselves a DNR/DNI. Then, as they become hypoxic and hypercapnic, confusion can set in. We have had MULTIPLE times when family members step in and change that person's code status to full code, and they have been intubated. Most of them die, after an awful intubation course. But we've had a couple make it. One in particular is trached, pegged, and miserable. He constantly pulls things out, Foley, PEG tube, central line, and recently, he purposely threw himself over the bed rail onto the floor. He does not want any of what he's enduring and now he's stable and there's nothing we can do.

I've considered contacting our ethics committee members to see what their guidance is on this issue. It seems that defensive medicine will always win, a dead patient can't sue us, but the dead patient's family members can. So, we ignore the wishes of a patient and acquiesce to the family. In one particularly horrifying instance, we had a patient admitted who stated she had a living will. She had also named her daughter as the health care proxy. The daughter refused to bring in the living will and made her mother a full code until she basically rotted away on the vent. Her family members were furious because they knew it wasn't what the patient wanted. The ethics committee was called about that situation, but they don't meet often so it wasn't addressed before the poor woman lingered for almost a month on a vent before dying.

It's bad enough that all these people are dying, but to know that some of their suffering could have been avoided, per their OWN wishes, is just infuriating. 

Specializes in Geriatrics.

If I could shout it from the rooftops, ADVANCED DIRECTIVES!

you are never too young to out one in place. 

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Specializes in Psych, Addictions, SOL (Student of Life).

Although I am still relatively young (59 next Friday) I do have a DNR on file with both my attorney and my family. In it there is a clause that states I will come back to haunt anyone who tries to or succeeds in placing me on a vent if I ever get to the point where extraordinary measures are fruitless. 

hppy 

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Specializes in Telemetry, DD, Ortho, CCU, BHU.

As nurses we have all been faced with this situation.
 My brother has an air tight living will drawn up by a lawyer.  It covers all the possible loop holes.  I am his health care proxy and we have talked about all scenarios.  If the time comes I will follow his wishes because it’s his right and we agreed to make it so even I can’t change it.  It covers how many physicians must agree and how many times his brain activity must be checked and other stipulations.  I would encourage everyone who wants to die their way to engage a lawyer and make it air tight.  You’ll get what you want and although family may not agree at the time , it will make it easier on them.

1 hour ago, Gratefulbutnotstupid said:

As nurses we have all been faced with this situation.
 My brother has an air tight living will drawn up by a lawyer.  It covers all the possible loop holes.  I am his health care proxy and we have talked about all scenarios.  If the time comes I will follow his wishes because it’s his right and we agreed to make it so even I can’t change it.  It covers how many physicians must agree and how many times his brain activity must be checked and other stipulations.  I would encourage everyone who wants to die their way to engage a lawyer and make it air tight.  You’ll get what you want and although family may not agree at the time , it will make it easier on them.

My father had a professionally prepared living will.  It was on file at the hospital where his wife, my mother, worked for decades.  When he was admitted to that ED a few years back in cardiac arrest they said they couldn't find the document and he was intubated and placed on a ventilator with the accompanying arterial and venous access lines.  I flew to Florida from Alaska the next day to supervise the removal of the equipment and hold his hand while he took his last breaths.  

The hospital didn't even apologize for their incompetence. 

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Specializes in Perioperative / RN Circulator.

Could you get Adult Protective Services involved?

10 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

My father had a professionally prepared living will.  It was on file at the hospital where his wife, my mother, worked for decades.  When he was admitted to that ED a few years back in cardiac arrest they said they couldn't find the document and he was intubated and placed on a ventilator with the accompanying arterial and venous access lines.  I flew to Florida from Alaska the next day to supervise the removal of the equipment and hold his hand while he took his last breaths.  

The hospital didn't even apologize for their incompetence. 

This is surprisingly common.  My 96 year old aunt had DNR on file with the hospital, and was admitted full code.

And, in the ER, we sometimes get the information late, and wrongly resuscitate.

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Specializes in Telemetry, DD, Ortho, CCU, BHU.

I am so sorry that occurred to your father.  That hospital definitely messed up.  It was fortuitous that you were able to get there the next day.  The sad part is he was intubated, ventilated with central and venous lines.  He should not have gone through that and his family shouldn’t have watched him endure it.

As a result of your comments , I have made a copy of my brother’s living will that I will carry with me in case it is needed.  Thank you and so sorry for your loss.

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Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
On 1/29/2022 at 8:43 AM, vintagegal said:

If I could shout it from the rooftops, ADVANCED DIRECTIVES!

you are never too young to out one in place. 

Nearly every advanced directive I've ever encountered was totally useless. Containing useless terms like "persistent vegetative state", or "brain dead". As if your body can't rot away in the ICU in the absence of brain death.

   My advanced directive is running to 10 double sided pages now and my attorney is a friend and former ICU nurse. It gets very detailed and complicated but the gist is, once I go into multi system organ failure, all they can give me of morphine and stool softeners. 

     Most importantly, I have a large amount of life insurance. I want it to be worth my family's while to pull the plug on me.  

On 2/9/2022 at 10:19 PM, hherrn said:

This is surprisingly common.  My 96 year old aunt had DNR on file with the hospital, and was admitted full code.

And, in the ER, we sometimes get the information late, and wrongly resuscitate.

What ya'll need is a couple of highly publicized cases of staff being criminally charged for battery. We had a couple of them here in Wisconsin in the late 90's  and everyone still mentions them. 

Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
On 2/9/2022 at 11:22 AM, toomuchbaloney said:

My father had a professionally prepared living will.  It was on file at the hospital where his wife, my mother, worked for decades.  When he was admitted to that ED a few years back in cardiac arrest they said they couldn't find the document and he was intubated and placed on a ventilator with the accompanying arterial and venous access lines.  I flew to Florida from Alaska the next day to supervise the removal of the equipment and hold his hand while he took his last breaths.  

The hospital didn't even apologize for their incompetence. 

Did you consider calling the cops and trying to get staff charged with battery? Something I would have definitely considered. 

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Specializes in New Critical care NP, Critical care, Med-surg, LTC.
On 2/11/2022 at 9:02 PM, PMFB-RN said:

What ya'll need is a couple of highly publicized cases of staff being criminally charged for battery.

This is a concern of mine. If a doctor has allowed a patient's family to change their code status and orders intubation, but I am the nurse that actually attends the intubation and care of the patient, I already feel in part morally responsible for it, but could I also be legally responsible if the patient survives and decides to sue. 

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