I will not defend nurses anymore

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My wife has been in the hospital 4 times in the past 2 months. During this time I have seen terrible nursing care. It seems that nurses are just robots who need to stay on a schedule of giving pills. There is no thinking at all. Every thing is by route.

A good example is that my wife is a diet controlled type 2. (diabetic) She was on glucose checks AC and HS. At HS she was 85. That was at 2100. I left to go home at 2300. When I arrived at 0700 I found out that the night nurse treated her low sugar.... This blew me away.. I asked her why she would treat some one with a normal blood sugar and on no hypoglycemics, and asymptomatic........ I honestly think she did not even understand the question.

Her next admission was for only 24 hours. She arrived in the er at 1900. They did blood work. I found out that her glucose was 75. (normal) Remember this was at 1900. She was sent to a room and I met the nurse. It was routine for her. Just fill out the paperwork. I left to go home at midnight. I arrived at 0700 the next morning. I was told that the nurse treated my wife's low sugar. Again, the same idiocy. She did not even due a finger stick, even though it was several hours after the blood work was done.

If they actually thought they were doing the right thing, they would have checked her glucose after they gave her the food and drink, to make sure her bs was normal. I am sure that if they did that, she would have been high and they might have given her insulin....then they could recheck, and she would be low, and round and round they would go......

I am adding this as an edit, as I may have not been clear. What is below has noting to do with her glucose. They gave her juice and crackers to treat the "low sugar"

I was with her for 16 hours a day for 2 weeks while she was in the hospital. What I saw scared the hell out of me. I had to constantly fight with the nurses to get her care that she needed. They would give her pills that made her vomit on an empty stomach. Then they would not learn and try to do it again. I had to fight for them to give meds with food. I had to dig the pills out of the puke to show that she did not ingest them.

I had this one nurse who wanted her to drink salt water to treat hyponatremia. I finally had to call the pharmacy and ask, or beg, for a pill. Who the hell wants to drink salt water? I pill is just as effective.

dont ask about the pain pills.......

I could write a book about all this. I am sick over health care.

When I was at the university, I was told "patients get well in spite of what we do to them" I had no idea how prophetic that was.

Specializes in M/S, LTC, Corrections, PDN & drug rehab.

I just want to know why the OP thought *this* was a good place to come to about not defending nurses.

What was his thought process? "I'm so angry, I need to vent." *googles stuff on nurses & AllNurses pops up* "Ah ha! I'll go here & yell at a bunch of random nurses over the internet!"

ETA: Just looked at his profile & saw the OP is a nurse. Which makes this all the more weird. Methinks someone needs a long vacation with a margarita.

I wonder if the OP will come back and respond-probably not since he doesn't want to "defend" us anymore...

Kind of funny for a nurse with 20 years experience himself to write a post like this.

Got sucked into another one of his posts last night. I'll be ignoring him from now on, just not worth it.

From what I gather OP is disabled from working as a nurse and his wife has been seriously ill, the stress level must be off the charts. I just had a meltdown from exhaustion after 2 days at Disneyland so I gotta cut him some slack.

Specializes in Acute Care Pediatrics.

Just as you don't want to defend nurses anymore, I do not see the point in trying to defend myself. ;) If you think you can do a better job, dude - I welcome you into the profession with open arms. Have fun. :)

Specializes in ED, Pedi Vasc access, Paramedic serving 6 towns.

I am going to come off as a total **shole for saying this...

Original Poster you and your wife sound like yet another set of people who need to complain about anything no matter how good the care was! Nurses are not perfect, just as I assume you are not perfect at everything. As many others have said, assuming you are not a nurse, you have no idea what the nurses SHOULD be doing, you only have your OPINION of what the nurses should be doing. As others have also said nurses do think critically, but that doesn't mean we can completely change how an order is performed if the MD writes it a certain way! For a diabetic a CBS in the 70s can be considered low, did you verbalize that this is normal CBS for your wife? I assume not, since you seem like you would rather complain here about what you have interpreted as poor care.

Your wife sounds like a professional patient to be honest, and those folks tend to be needy, just my opinion!

P.S. Your wife's nurse probably had another 6 patients to take care of as well, so don't think she was sitting on her butt eating bon bons when she wasn't with your

wife! Family members who are never satisfied with nursing care are the reason many nurses leave the profession!

Annie

Specializes in ICU, psych.

I want to thank all who took the time to respond.

I think I should have titled this post " I used to be proud to be a nurse"

I find the responses interesting. Some want to discount my experience and chalk it off rather then entertaining the idea that it may actually be true. One called me a troll. Others had varied responses.

The thing is that my wife received terrible care. This is a fact. What I have seen makes me fear for the future of health care. (some of the responses do too) It does seem that no one would admit that the care was bad. This was my whole point. I was just wondering what the nurses here might say.

I did not say why she in the hospital because it makes no difference. It has been 2 months since she was discharged and she is doing well. Thanks for the kind words towards her recovery.

What bothers me the most is the lack of caring on the part of the nurses in the hospital. Maybe they just dont have any idea what it means to be a nurse. As long as they get paid they dont care. It is just a job.

I became a nurse because I actually cared about people. There is no excuse for the care that she received. We are nurses, caring is what we do, or what we are supposed to do. We cant let the problems of health care stop us from acting in the best interest of our patients. I also wonder about the education of nurses. there is no excuse for not knowing how to treat blood sugar.

What scares me the most is that it seems that anyone can be a nurse these days. They dont need to have basic intelligence. I see few critical thinking skills.

Why did I post here? Seems obvious to me.

Specializes in M/S, LTC, Corrections, PDN & drug rehab.
I want to thank all who took the time to respond.

I think I should have titled this post " I used to be proud to be a nurse"

I find the responses interesting. Some want to discount my experience and chalk it off rather then entertaining the idea that it may actually be true. One called me a troll. Others had varied responses.

The thing is that my wife received terrible care. This is a fact. What I have seen makes me fear for the future of health care. (some of the responses do too) It does seem that no one would admit that the care was bad. This was my whole point. I was just wondering what the nurses here might say.

I did not say why she in the hospital because it makes no difference. It has been 2 months since she was discharged and she is doing well. Thanks for the kind words towards her recovery.

What bothers me the most is the lack of caring on the part of the nurses in the hospital. Maybe they just dont have any idea what it means to be a nurse. As long as they get paid they dont care. It is just a job.

I became a nurse because I actually cared about people. There is no excuse for the care that she received. We are nurses, caring is what we do, or what we are supposed to do. We cant let the problems of health care stop us from acting in the best interest of our patients. I also wonder about the education of nurses. there is no excuse for not knowing how to treat blood sugar.

What scares me the most is that it seems that anyone can be a nurse these days. They dont need to have basic intelligence. I see few critical thinking skills.

Why did I post here? Seems obvious to me.

It doesn't seem obvious to blast a whole bunch of nurses here but maybe it's just me. If you had issues with her care you should've taken it up with her doctor & care team. Did you talk to the doctor or nurse manager about the issues you had?

Also not anyone can be a nurse. With the influx of everyone wanting to be nurses it is quite competitive & they only accept the smartest & highest scoring.

I want to thank all who took the time to respond.

I think I should have titled this post " I used to be proud to be a nurse"

I find the responses interesting. Some want to discount my experience and chalk it off rather then entertaining the idea that it may actually be true. One called me a troll. Others had varied responses.

The thing is that my wife received terrible care. This is a fact. What I have seen makes me fear for the future of health care. (some of the responses do too) It does seem that no one would admit that the care was bad. This was my whole point. I was just wondering what the nurses here might say.

I did not say why she in the hospital because it makes no difference. It has been 2 months since she was discharged and she is doing well. Thanks for the kind words towards her recovery.

What bothers me the most is the lack of caring on the part of the nurses in the hospital. Maybe they just dont have any idea what it means to be a nurse. As long as they get paid they dont care. It is just a job.

I became a nurse because I actually cared about people. There is no excuse for the care that she received. We are nurses, caring is what we do, or what we are supposed to do. We cant let the problems of health care stop us from acting in the best interest of our patients. I also wonder about the education of nurses. there is no excuse for not knowing how to treat blood sugar.

What scares me the most is that it seems that anyone can be a nurse these days. They dont need to have basic intelligence. I see few critical thinking skills.

Why did I post here? Seems obvious to me.

I am not sure how long it has been since you have been at bedside, however, caring and nursing being an art as well as you have to care for people to be a nurse---just doesn't work that way anymore.

Nursing is a cog of a business that helps make money. No one is taught how to communicate and care anymore. Because the facilities don't care. And are getting rid of more and more nurses who take the time and energy to care.

It is "just a job" as that is the climate that nurses are led into. More seasoned nurses who know better and have worked better are also being phased out quicker and under the most bizarre circumstances you could imagine.

No matter how small the hospital, patients are numbers. You have to smile, curtsey, bow and say things like "I want you to be DELIGHTED" however, no one MEANS that garbage.....but if one would like to retain their job, they must say it.

Again-the blood sugar situation--in the 70's is low in my opinion. If your wife was symptomatic, it needs to be treated.

There doesn't need to be critical thinking in this day and age. The parameters of duties is very black and white with no grey.

It used to be nursing was an honor that one had to be a certain kind of person....almost "saint like", with razor sharp critical thinking skills. If you bring that to the bedside now, you can pack up your stuff and call it a day.....they will replace you with 2 others that will just do as they are told.

All dollars, no sense.

Question to PP's about the need to treat the glucose level..

If her glucose is under 100, she is asymptomatic and isn't taking any anti-diabetic meds, what is there to treat? Since she's diet controlled, it seems jacking up her glucose with crackers and juice would only raise her insulin levels and spiral her glucose back down again. What am I misunderstanding?

where I am employed it is policy to treat a diabetic with a Blood sugar of 80 and below. Many of us will err on the side of caution and treat a blood sugar that is a little above 80 because simply put a low blood sugar is much worse than a high blood sugar and can put someone into a coma much much quicker. If her HS blood sugar was 85 I would have treated it too by giving juice just as the nurse you were so rude to did. your wife was going all night without eating or drinking anything and many diabetics blood sugars will severely drop during the night. We as nurses and doctors included would rather a blood sugar be a little high than low because someone will die much quicker from a low blood sugar than a high blood sugar.

Specializes in Emergency RN, Trauma RN.

Strange that this profile belongs to a BSN RN...

I am not sure where you work but where I work the nurses are appreciated especially on the more critical floors and our input is very appreciated by the DRs. Alot of critical thinking is involved and if we dont agree with an order we let the DR know. There are of course the DRs that are old fashioned and dont like this. but usually the doctors appreciate and even ask us for our opinions.

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