I Really Do Not Want the COVID Vaccine ?

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(So glad I stumbled across this website again after almost 6 years! I need to change my username because I am not an aspiring nurse anymore, I have been a nurse for almost 3 years! ?)

Anyway, I really do not want to take this new covid vaccine. I know I can’t be the only one who feels this way. Typically I am not an anti-vaxxer but something about this illness is making me think otherwise. For personal reasons I really do not want to take it when available at my hospital, but I’m afraid it will be mandatory. I am almost considering finding a new job if my hospital forces us all to take it. What a shame because I do like my job and wouldn’t know what else to turn to that isn’t nursing, because chances are most healthcare related places of employment will likely require all employees take it.

I want to use the excuse of it being against my religion but I already took the flu vaccine this year. I have nothing against the flu vaccine but didn’t necessarily want it, but my hospital practically FORCED everyone to take it unless they grant you an exemption. I’m afraid they’ll question me why I took the flu shot but cannot take the covid vaccine. 

What do you guys think about this? Will you be taking the vaccine? I just want us to be able to make our own decisions about this. If patients can refuse medications, procedures, and treatments, why can’t healthcare workers do the same? I read in multiple articles it will not be required by the federal government but each state and employer can decide whether or not it will be mandatory.

And forget the $1500 “stimulus check” that may be offered if you take it. All the money in the world would not change my mind about taking the vaccine. I feel as though if you have to bribe people to take it, something is peculiar.

I don’t know why this is bothering me so much. It should be a choice in my opinion. But by telling a few friends about not wanting it I feel judged. I have worked with covid patients multiple times since I am one of the younger nurses who does not have any kids/am pregnant. I feel like week after week I was always chosen to go to the covid section. At first I was mad but now it doesn’t bother me. I am not afraid to be near covid patients. Luckily through all this time I haven’t caught it. I always tell people I’d rather catch it than get this vaccine. That’s how strongly I feel against taking the vaccine. All of my non-nursing who have had covid are covered and thriving. To me catching it isn’t the biggest deal but others have called me selfish because I could be spreading it to others. Why is it looked at as selfish for not wanting to inject something into MY body. #mybodymychoice

Am I thinking about this too much? What would you do?

I am done responding on this thread for now- I’ve made my point many times. Just here to remind people to not shame and belittle others personal medical choices. I’m all for the links to educational resources but completely done with nitpicking! Bye

Specializes in Public Health, TB.
29 minutes ago, ohbejoyful said:

I am done responding on this thread for now- I’ve made my point many times. Just here to remind people to not shame and belittle others personal medical choices. I’m all for the links to educational resources but completely done with nitpicking! Bye

Flounce!

Specializes in LTC.

@ohbejoyful

I understand your point. Thank you for your post.  Alot of those who responded negatively and condescendingly, more than likely began their careers at the lowest level of nursing, CNAs, then became LPNs , deploma RNs , where a majority stopped and others continued their education through a bridge program. Of course there are a few who probably started at the community college level and worked their way up.  I started at the community college but got into a bad accident, yadayada. So I decided to go a quicker route so that I would make it to DNP in approximately 3 yrs. The means doesn't matter, it's the end result.  There was someone who gave a long scientific article that they found.  It included mRNA. which is the messenger RNA and that is dealing with DNA. I don't want to put anything into my body that's going to change, in my opinion, my DNA.  You have every right to be skeptical.  That shows that you are an independent thinker and not a sheeple (follower).  As for the condescension, that is just their own insecurities.  No matter what level they are in nursing, it doesn't matter to me.  I'm still holding to my opinions.  You know what they say about opinions. But really, these comments I find amusing.  I view them as being very neurotical and hysterical personalities.  One woman who responded to my comment had a reading comprehension problem.  She accused me of calling her a communist.  My comment clearly stated that as far as I knew this country was not communist yet, and the first amendment still stands.  They still keep coming. I've actually shared some of these responses with others in the profession, and they laughed their derrieres off.  They told me that I should stop too, BUT they make it so much fun, I said. LMAO

Specializes in Public Health, TB.
1 hour ago, ohbejoyful said:

 Grateful for those willing to take the experimental/emergency vaccination as it will provide the data for long term effects including fertility, ADE, autoimmune disease etc. 

Speaking of autoimmune disease, did anyone see the article from New England Journal of Medicine that reported on the observation of new onset diabetes in Covid-19 patients? 

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2018688

Specializes in LTC.

@nursej22

Point well made.  However, if you think that I am ashamed or feel belittled, I don't.  Actually, I think people who have to lower themselves to that level should not even be in this profession.  It's so demeaning on them not on the person that they are trying to bully into following their opinions and beliefs.  Thank you for your comment.

Specializes in Public Health, TB.
3 minutes ago, Aries22 said:

@ohbejoyful

 There was someone who gave a long scientific article thyat they found.  It included mRNA. which is the messenger RNA and that is dealing with DNA. I don't want to put anything into my body that's going to change, in my opinion, my DNA.  

the mRNA contained in the vaccines do not enter the nucleus and do not change your DNA. It enters the endoplasmic reticulum, which then synthesizes the spike proteins. The spike proteins are then released and our immune systems produce antibodies against them. 

Specializes in Public Health, TB.
5 minutes ago, Aries22 said:

@nursej22

Point well made.  However, if you think that I am ashamed or feel belittled, I don't.  Actually, I think people who have to lower themselves to that level should not even be in this profession.  It's so demeaning on them not on the person that they are trying to bully into following their opinions and beliefs.  Thank you for your comment.

I apologize if you think I attempted to shame or belittle you. I try to stick to facts and evidence.

I do wish you well in your studies. 

 

Specializes in Physiology, CM, consulting, nsg edu, LNC, COB.
7 minutes ago, Aries22 said:

@ohbejoyful There was someone who gave a long scientific article thyat they found.  It included mRNA. which is the messenger RNA and that is dealing with DNA. I don't want to put anything into my body that's going to change, in my opinion, my DNA. 

Couldn't quote accurately ~ Aries had nothing to do c this. @ohbejoyful:

From https://www.CDC.gov/vaccines/covid-19/hcp/mrna-vaccine-basics.html    Patient teaching materials

"Like all vaccines, COVID-19 mRNA vaccines have been rigorously tested for safety before being authorized for use in the United States.

"mRNA technology is new, but not unknown. They have been studied for more than a decade.

"mRNA vaccines do not contain a live virus and do not carry a risk of causing disease in the vaccinated person.

"mRNA from the vaccine never enters the nucleus of the cell and does not affect or interact with a person’s DNA."

I hope that makes that clear for you. I cannot think of a clear analogy that doesn't sound completely ridiculous.

 

Specializes in LTC.

@nursej22

Thank you for the correction! See I need to take Biology over.  It's been approximately 10 yrs.  I appreciate it. 

No, I did not think that you were attempting to shame me. Not at all.  I don't have an ego, like that.  It has been awhile since I have taken my core sciences. I am not intimidated by anyone who is knowledgeable.  I appreciate it. That's how you learn.

Specializes in Physiology, CM, consulting, nsg edu, LNC, COB.
13 minutes ago, nursej22 said:

Speaking of autoimmune disease, did anyone see the article from New England Journal of Medicine that reported on the observation of new onset diabetes in Covid-19 patients? 

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2018688

This is not a report of a study, it's a letter to the editor. It reads in part: (my emphasis)

"In the aggregate, these observations provide support for the hypothesis of a potential diabetogenic effect of Covid-19, beyond the well-recognized stress response associated with severe illness. However, whether the alterations of glucose metabolism that occur with a sudden onset in severe Covid-19 persist or remit when the infection resolves is unclear. How frequent is the phenomenon of new-onset diabetes, and is it classic type 1 or type 2 diabetes or a new type of diabetes? Do these patients remain at higher risk for diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis? In patients with preexisting diabetes, does Covid-19 change the underlying pathophysiology and the natural history of the disease? Answering these questions in order to inform the immediate clinical care, follow-up, and monitoring of affected patients is a priority."

In short, calling for studies, which will take some time. NOT saying this is a done deal by any stretch.

Specializes in LTC.

@hannabanana

I was trying to recall what had been stated, If I misquoted, which  most likely I did, then mea culpa. @nursej22 adequately corrected me.  Thank you for your post and comment.  Both of you ladies have significant years of experience as nurses, so I have no dispute of what you have stated.  Thank you kindly!

29 minutes ago, Hannahbanana said:

Couldn't quote accurately ~ Aries had nothing to do c this. @ohbejoyful:

From https://www.CDC.gov/vaccines/covid-19/hcp/mrna-vaccine-basics.html    Patient teaching materials

"Like all vaccines, COVID-19 mRNA vaccines have been rigorously tested for safety before being authorized for use in the United States.

"mRNA technology is new, but not unknown. They have been studied for more than a decade.

"mRNA vaccines do not contain a live virus and do not carry a risk of causing disease in the vaccinated person.

"mRNA from the vaccine never enters the nucleus of the cell and does not affect or interact with a person’s DNA."

I hope that makes that clear for you. I cannot think of a clear analogy that doesn't sound completely ridiculous.

 

Actually you had it right the first time... I never said that, it was Aries’ post ... I’m aware of this fact from extensive research and debate and never said this.

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