I paid 200 dollars for pvt

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I took the nclex this august 2015 and did the pvt, problem is i did it 30mins after my exam, i didnt know about the 24hr rule. They charged me 200 bucks. Is it certain that i have failed?

Agree to disagree.

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Agree to disagree.

By the way the TOS are legally binding. So there is no case.

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There never was a case. It was a nice, fun debate on an Internet forum.

I think you cannot be legally bound if something is found to be illegal. (Accepting payment for not rendering goods or services is illegal... I think it could be argued)

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Just to add, after this discussion, I would be slightly more surprised if there was a class action lawsuit.

Although I do still think people should go to their card companies to charge back.

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There never was a case. It was a nice, fun debate on a Internet forum.

I think you cannot be legally bound if something is found to be illegal. (Accepting payment for not rendering goods or services is illegal... I think it could be argued)

They weren't trying to sign up for the NCLEX. They were trying to do the PVT. Pearson Vue clearly states they will not be held liable for any charges. It would be different if someone was trying to sign up for the NCLEX but didn't get to take it.

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Right but a lot of companies say that and are then held liable when losses or damages are incurred.

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Right but a lot of companies say that and are then held liable when losses or damages are incurred.

Yeah but people are knowingly doing something wrong, that's what probably will prevent any refund.

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Agree to disagree.

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I really wish PV would just start taking money from every fool who does this.

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Hey, guys...? I wonder if I might throw something out there, maybe it would change a position.

When someone submits a $200 charge, they are NOT paying for a test.....and therefore if they pass they don't NEED to take the test again, so a service isn't rendered. That's not the situation.

The submission of the $200 fee is for a REGISTRATION to take a test. The registration is the service provided for the fee....and PV does say (repeatedly) that if someone intentionally creates a DUPLICATE registration (because they still have one that is considered current until their results are submitted to the BoN)....then THAT is not something they agree to. Terms of Service. That if someone makes a duplicate registration, PV is under no obligation to return funds paid to MAKE that registration---that they did, in fact, MAKE.

I do understand the argument, entirely, that someone could allege in a lawsuit that PV did not provide a service in exchange for the $200 fee. Thing is, they would be wrong because the SERVICE provided was the registration ONLY. The exam comes later.....and is included in the registration.

Two hundred bucks to register for an exam....whether or not the candidate TAKES the exam. Like this: You pay for a registration. You oversleep, completely miss the exam time and date. Oops. But you are not owed a refund....you GOT the registration, what you DID with it was YOUR mistake. Make a registration you choose to not use....NOT Pearson Vue's problem ;). AEB the people who do that very thing: miss their appointments, and DO NOT get a refund. They can ask. They will lose. They HAD the registration service provided. Not showing up does not translate into the business losing the fee for the service ALREADY provided.

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Hey, guys...? I wonder if I might throw something out there, maybe it would change a position.

When someone submits a $200 charge, they are NOT paying for a test.....and therefore if they pass they don't NEED to take the test again, so a service isn't rendered. That's not the situation.

The submission of the $200 fee is for a REGISTRATION to take a test. The registration is the service provided for the fee....and PV does say (repeatedly) that if someone intentionally creates a DUPLICATE registration (because they still have one that is considered current until their results are submitted to the BoN)....then THAT is not something they agree to. Terms of Service. That if someone makes a duplicate registration, PV is under no obligation to return funds paid to MAKE that registration---that they did, in fact, MAKE.

I do understand the argument, entirely, that someone could allege in a lawsuit that PV did not provide a service in exchange for the $200 fee. Thing is, they would be wrong because the SERVICE provided was the registration ONLY. The exam comes later.....and is included in the registration.

Two hundred bucks to register for an exam....whether or not the candidate TAKES the exam. Like this: You pay for a registration. You oversleep, completely miss the exam time and date. Oops. But you are not owed a refund....you GOT the registration, what you DID with it was YOUR mistake. Make a registration you choose to not use....NOT Pearson Vue's problem ;). AEB the people who do that very thing: miss their appointments, and DO NOT get a refund. They can ask. They will lose. They HAD the registration service provided. Not showing up does not translate into the business losing the fee for the service ALREADY provided.

Thank you for saying what I was trying to say. You said it a lot better than I could & went into a lot more detail.

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Thank you for saying what I was trying to say. You said it a lot better than I could & went into a lot more detail.

I definitely see what Shye was saying, no doubt. If someone pays for something that is then not received, the argument is easily made that the person paying doesn't actually OWE anything. Makes sense. In this case, I think where it would fall flat would just be in WHAT the person was paying for.....a registration for an exam.

I think another like example would be when I register for a conference. I agree when I register that if I am unable to attend, I provide the conference hosts with sufficient notice (whatever they say that is) so that I can obtain a full or partial refund. HOWEVER, if I don't provide that notice, or the deadline has passed, they owe me nothing: they provided the service (my spot in the conference) and I chose to not attend. No refund owed.

I don't know how many people register for a spot, then fail to appear for an NCLEX. We do know it definitely happens, and we do know that there are definitely no refunds given, they don't care WHAT the reason was for not showing up.

Hey, we all know PV is going to change their software program at some point in the future, and who knows how that will affect all this nonsense. Might make it go away (if we're lucky!) or it might do something weirder still.

People are really their own worst enemies. They "can't help themselves", "can't stop themselves", "thought they would die if they didn't try it". Ok.....but these are the same people who are going to calmly, rationally approach a patient in crisis? One wonders.... :unsure:

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