I m in big trouble! I think I failed my drug screen

HM2VikingRN, RN · Apr 2, 2009

As a federal employee I would be down the road instantly for a dirty UA.

As a professional I don't smoke cannabis or tobacco. I do think an 8 hour bottle to throttle rule is reasonable if we ever do legalize marijuana for recreational use.

Philosophically I support legalized medicinal marijuana.

Aneroo, LPN · Apr 2, 2009

Oh well, you didn't get caught this time. Now, somewhere out there, we have a nurse who does illegal drugs being in charge of narcotics and the monitoring and assessment of patients. I don't care if everyone thinks I'm an old square not fitting into a round world. Illegal drugs are illegal drugs, and because they are, the people who use them are involved in criminal activity and are in the company of the criminal drug elements of our society--and you have access to narcotics. If pot were legal, it would be a whole 'nother issue. Then it would just be a matter of whether or not you were high at work.
I think you should stop: stop being a nurse, or stop using pot.

I agree.

To me the issue is that it's illegal. It's still illegal for a reason (whether you see it as a safety issue or if you see it as a government control issue). I'm one who believes rules are there for a reason (and not to be broken).

LovebugLPN · Apr 2, 2009

I am not going to fight about the legality of pot because that is where this always leads. But to every poster who says "rules and laws are not to be broken" can I ask you a question? Have you ever broken the speed limit or littered? Those are laws. Now go ahead and tell me how that is so different and you will have a million reasons why but it's still the law and you broke it. :smokin: Now put that in your pipe and smoke it.

~Mi Vida Loca~RN, ASN, RN · Apr 2, 2009

I just want to add my two cents...First of all, STOP ADMITTING WHAT YOU DID...The reason is that anything on boards such as this can be seen by anyone. I was actually on a forum that that was dealing with disputing your credit and ways to get out of paying, whether it was a valid debt or not.
A person had posted questions and comments on a debt she knew was hers by admission, and was trying to get out of paying the debt. One of the ways and suggestion given was make the company prove it was bill or sue them. She tried to sue them and the COMPANY showed up in COURT with all the post she had done on this website. BUSTED!!!!!!!! DONT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE.

Ummm how did the creditors know it was her? She would have needed to post a LOT of identifiable information in her post for this to hold up. Creditors are not allowed to seize computers to see what you are posting online. Since her post wasn't threatening anyone, the cable company would not even verify if the IP's matched. That only happens if they are supeonaed sp? to and those are for criminal cases. It is not criminal to make a creiditor show proof of the debt. Sorry but I call BS on this whole story. Even if she gave her name on the message board I would go out on a limb that she is not the only person with that name and she could have always claimed she didn't post it but she told a friend about the problems she was having and maybe someone else did.

Belfegor · Apr 2, 2009

everyone knows when they take a job they can be screened at anytime. stop listening to what other employees tell you and for the love of god stop smoking pot people! this web site would have a whole hell of a lot less people panicked on it if they didn't touch it. be like me and just sit in the room while your friends blow it in your face.

news brake! you can test positive if you have inhaled second hand smoke from "pot"!

andrena67 · Apr 3, 2009

Belfegor..The bottom line is you can be tracked by a ip address.. the same thing the music industry can sue you for illegaly downloading there music. When you are using the internet, it is a open source for anyone to see and view.

Regardless of what you may believe, it can happen. Its all over the internet, people have been fired what websites they have been registered with. Just the facts and I would hate to see this person lose there job over something like this.

Atheos · Apr 3, 2009

Belfegor..The bottom line is you can be tracked by a ip address.. the same thing the music industry can sue you for illegaly downloading there music. When you are using the internet, it is a open source for anyone to see and view.
Regardless of what you may believe, it can happen. Its all over the internet, people have been fired what websites they have been registered with. Just the facts and I would hate to see this person lose there job over something like this.

First off, that's why you use an unsecured wireless access point for regular surfing and what not. Then they can't ACTUALLY prove it was you. Anyone could have piggy backed on your signal.

Secondly, IP addresses change as anyone with hi speed net access (cable/fios/dsl) has dynamically assigned IP's unless you specifically purchase a static IP (The IP lease time is set by the ISP but other events can force a change as well). So except for the gov't no one is going to find out where or what you do. The ISPs are notorious for withholding that information. Even the RIAA and MPAA have eased back on law suits of individual people as they were generally unsuccessful. The number of successful suits was small. A large portion of people settled but more than settlements and suits combined flaunted their noses at them and got off scot free because the RIAA/MPAA had weak cases.

The courts have regularly upheld that IP address alone is not sufficient evidence of anything. That's also why those wierdos don't get arrested for 'looking' or 'logging into' child Media sites. They have to have evidence on their computer. Even if it is just a temporary cache file.

Thirdly, when you hear about someone getting caught for breaking into a government computer or getting sued for downloading songs you can rest assured that for that 1 person 500+ are doing it with impugnity.

What do I offer as proof? My 600+ GB music collection and my 3+ TB HD video collection. None of which was purchased.

andrena67 · Apr 3, 2009

btw. for those that are non believers of what can be used against you on open sites. Check out this link... http://www.scfamilylaw.com/2008/11/articles/research-investigation/what-evidence-can-you-discover-on-social-networking-sites/

Atheos · Apr 3, 2009

Oh - I'm sorry.

I'm not a non-believer, I'm a techno geek... I actually KNOW how they can catch you. I'm not using second hand knowledge...

That site is using examples of say you putting a naked picture up. Then OBVIOUSLY it is you. They aren't tracking you. You screwed yourself if that situation were to happen.

That's about on par with smoking weed in the break room...

There is, however, NO computer nerd sitting in a corporate office trace routing your home computer's socket connections.

Now, they can monitor computers AT the work place. That's a different monster altogether...

SunnyAndrsn · Apr 3, 2009

Lesson learned? That was really dumb, should have been a no brainer.

Here's the scoop. I was told by another nurse that the facility I work in (I work agency) didn't do pre employent Urinalysis drug screens. Now, I m an occasional pot smoker(never before work. usually about 3x a month), I don't drink, I don't do any hard core drugs. SO anyway, to my surprise, when I went to the physical on Monday... they drew labs, xrays and did a Urinalysis. In about 2 hours I have to go in and get the update of the physical and test results... Guess what? I know they're gonna find thc in my urine. Now, I m not only looking at definitely not getting this job but I might even be turned in to the state boards. I m screwed. I didn't sleep at all last night. My wife's panicked and so am I. There's nothing I can do now. I don't consider myself an addict in any way shape of form. some people drink a couple beers, some do a couple puffs once in a while. Had I been smarter about it, i would have abstained from it.... but being gullible and stupid.. I didn't. God help me!I smoked the day before the test. lesson learned.

~Mi Vida Loca~RN, ASN, RN · Apr 3, 2009

Oh - I'm sorry.
I'm not a non-believer, I'm a techno geek... I actually KNOW how they can catch you. I'm not using second hand knowledge...
That site is using examples of say you putting a naked picture up. Then OBVIOUSLY it is you. They aren't tracking you. You screwed yourself if that situation were to happen.
That's about on par with smoking weed in the break room...
There is, however, NO computer nerd sitting in a corporate office trace routing your home computer's socket connections.
Now, they can monitor computers AT the work place. That's a different monster altogether...

Thank You, and yes when people are breaking the laws ONLINE they can seize your computer and subpoena your information from your ISP and stuff.

Not going to happen when someone says "Hey I think this person admitted this debt, can we get a search warrant and verify this":rolleyes:

People that have been fired or not gotten jobs for stuff online are hmmmm not the smartest people. Giving your email address that you use for myspace and facebook where you might behave a certain way, to your employer is dumb. I can't tell you how many responses to various things on CL I have gotten and I run their email address. I especially loved the girl wanting to babysit for me and I checked her myspace and her occupation was "homewrecker" yea she didn't get a call back LOL.

They can search you by name but if you keep your profiles private you wouldn't run into any problems.

Yes you should be careful what you post on open websites. As long as you are not posting any identifiable information about yourself you don't have to worry if you admit to some things. :twocents:

Oh and Stanley, none of that was directed towards you, I only quoted your post because I was agreeing with it at the beginning of my post. I am sure this is obvious but ya never know

LovebugLPN · Apr 3, 2009

Do you know what would make this thread better? Is if we sat back and smoked pot while we read the posts that were completely off the topic about people downloading illegal music, Mediao and the babysitter that let people know she was a "home wrecker". :smokin: