I hate it!!!

ERbunny · Jun 17, 2008

This 17 year old sounds like a perfect candidate for the "medical necessity" screening by the MD....More of the hospitals in our area are going this way and perhps when word get around some of the abuse of the ER will diminish ( I know better than to think it will stop. LOL)

RN1982 · Jun 17, 2008

Society has turned out some real winners...just think...this is our future.

angel337, MSN, RN · Jun 17, 2008

i see this on a daily basis also, but to me it is very sad because i have had the opportunity to actually talk with these young women and men and you would be surprised the environments that most of them are exposed to and forced to live in. i really don't want to get into a long drawn out story about poverty but for those of us that grew up with caring parents and food on the table evry night should be grateful because it could have easily been one of us. this does not excuse the fact that these people saturate the ER's with insignificant complaints but what it should do is make us aware that patient education is so necessary. i have worked in community clinics where the nurses and nurse practitioners dedicate their careers to helping people like this and it is so wonderful to see those that benefit from basic STD education because no one ever taught them anything at home. i can vividly remember a young lady that had 5 children by the age of 20 and 4 of those children were fathered by her uncle. so yes it is easy for us to judge because we don't always understand the circusmstances and yes people that abuse the system are definitely out there but we as health care professionals are in a position to educate even if it is a little bit.

RN1982 · Jun 17, 2008

i see this on a daily basis also, but to me it is very sad because i have had the opportunity to actually talk with these young women and men and you would be surprised the environments that most of them are exposed to and forced to live in. i really don't want to get into a long drawn out story about poverty but for those of us that grew up with caring parents and food on the table evry night should be grateful because it could have easily been one of us. this does not excuse the fact that these people saturate the ER's with insignificant complaints but what it should do is make us aware that patient education is so necessary. i have worked in community clinics where the nurses and nurse practitioners dedicate their careers to helping people like this and it is so wonderful to see those that benefit from basic STD education because no one ever taught them anything at home. i can vividly remember a young lady that had 5 children by the age of 20 and 4 of those children were fathered by her uncle. so yes it is easy for us to judge because we don't always understand the circusmstances and yes people that abuse the system are definitely out there but we as health care professionals are in a position to educate even if it is a little bit.

Ok, ok, you're right. We should never judge. I'm a bit disgusted about the story of the girl with five children. not so much her having that many kids, just the fact that four were by her uncle. I'm thinking some serious abuse was going on and wasn't reported?

Jelli_Belli · Jun 17, 2008

I think that in order to pick up your welfare check every month you should have to get a Depo shot. No Depo shot...no free money. I don't know about you guys but I am sick to death of paying for other peoples kids.

My husband and I are going through some fertility issues right now, and because the insurance that I PAY for won't cover fertility treatments we can't AFFORD to have a child because 60% of my paycheck goes to taxes to pay for every dead beat in the world to have 4 or 5 children. And they get free healthcare.

The whole system makes me want to puke. :banghead:

queen777 · Jun 17, 2008

Ok, I strongly dislike it when 17 year olds come in at 2:30 AM looking for a pregnancy test...hello? Drugstore?
And i dislike it even worse when they come back positive.
And when they bring the baby daddy with them.
Blech!:argue:

Oh this is one of the reasons I quit nursing. No one takes responsibility anymore and that goes for nurses too!

Harparia · Jun 17, 2008

Charity used to come with conditions. Now, it has almost become an entitlement. I remember my grandmother telling me about the Great Depression, and how they had to ask for the charity of those around them. It was their friends and neighbors who responded. NOT the government. And for that charity their family was expected to behave in a humble and upstanding way. What a concept.

queen777 · Jun 17, 2008

I think that in order to pick up your welfare check every month you should have to get a Depo shot. No Depo shot...no free money. I don't know about you guys but I am sick to death of paying for other peoples kids.
My husband and I are going through some fertility issues right now, and because the insurance that I PAY for won't cover fertility treatments we can't AFFORD to have a child because 60% of my paycheck goes to taxes to pay for every dead beat in the world to have 4 or 5 children. And they get free healthcare.
The whole system makes me want to puke.

Oh yeah, I worked in a Free Clinic for a few monthes and that was it! I couldn't stand it anymore. The "patients" would come there like it was a thing to do every week. Their hair and nails were done. Shoot I have never in my life had a manicure! I cut my own hair. On my second pedicure the girl cut me, so that ended that!

On yes, our dear system sucks royally for us who work. Believe me the ones who sit around know exactly what they are doing by doing just that. They know they will be taken care of. Yet they would come in wearing their brand spanking new shoes with not a dirt speck on them, looked as though they just went shopping.

Sickening. I know the feeling. It sure put a damper on the nursing field for me because I went into to nursing to help people who were honestly sick not just wanting to suck us dry. Oh and don't forget the cabinet full of inhalers for those who smoke their brains out! :smokin: Really, what is the use? They are still going to be however they are.

I asked one man why he didn't get a job? He was healthy just gaining weight. His answer, "I sit around all day. I make pastry then I eat it.":confused:

Another Latino wanted disability because in his words, " I have smoked myself to death and can't breath." And the diabetics don't use the insulin they are given.

So, they know what they are doing. They are not dumb, we are for taking care of their a**!

I worked in a county hospital in training for OB. This dark woman who just had a baby said she was not going to give the child the baby daddy's last name, but her last name. She is going to keep popping those kids out and collecting that free money.

Makes me want to sell my house and sit on my a**. But I couldn't stand to be like them.

Ruby Vee, BSN · Jun 17, 2008

i see this on a daily basis also, but to me it is very sad because i have had the opportunity to actually talk with these young women and men and you would be surprised the environments that most of them are exposed to and forced to live in. i really don't want to get into a long drawn out story about poverty but for those of us that grew up with caring parents and food on the table evry night should be grateful because it could have easily been one of us. this does not excuse the fact that these people saturate the er's with insignificant complaints but what it should do is make us aware that patient education is so necessary. i have worked in community clinics where the nurses and nurse practitioners dedicate their careers to helping people like this and it is so wonderful to see those that benefit from basic std education because no one ever taught them anything at home. i can vividly remember a young lady that had 5 children by the age of 20 and 4 of those children were fathered by her uncle. so yes it is easy for us to judge because we don't always understand the circusmstances and yes people that abuse the system are definitely out there but we as health care professionals are in a position to educate even if it is a little bit.

and i grew up without plumbing or electricity, went to a doctor only when i fell off the horse and broke my arm and when i got stabbed through the finger by a chicken and my whole hand swelled up to the size of a cantelope. i understand your point. however, this is a vent thread and it's not nice to get on a vent thread and tell everyone they're wrong to vent.

angel337, MSN, RN · Jun 17, 2008

and i grew up without plumbing or electricity, went to a doctor only when i fell off the horse and broke my arm and when i got stabbed through the finger by a chicken and my whole hand swelled up to the size of a cantelope. i understand your point. however, this is a vent thread and it's not nice to get on a vent thread and tell everyone they're wrong to vent.

i didn't say it was wrong to vent. i only gave my view from another angle. i share everyone else's frustration as well at times.

angel337, MSN, RN · Jun 17, 2008

Ok, ok, you're right. We should never judge. I'm a bit disgusted about the story of the girl with five children. not so much her having that many kids, just the fact that four were by her uncle. I'm thinking some serious abuse was going on and wasn't reported?

from what i gathered (i was a student at the time) it was reported. i know its hard not to judge people when you see the same redundant behavior day in and day out. we all are guilty of it. no harm meant.

mwboswell · Jun 18, 2008

Ok, I strongly dislike it when 17 year olds come in at 2:30 AM looking for a pregnancy test...hello? Drugstore?
And i dislike it even worse when they come back positive.
And when they bring the baby daddy with them.
Blech!:argue:

...why do they not make them pay for their ER visit up front? EMTALA does not say you have to provide them a pregnancy test?