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So I am in the 3rd week of my second quarter at ITT-Tech in Phoenix. I am not going to lie, the first quarter nursing class is very boring and dry, but it is picking up a bit in this quarter. In our first quarter (11 weeks) we basically learned the history of nursing, the nursing process, and a brief intro to nursing diagnosis.

In the second quarter we have began doing labs. So far we have done mostly CNA stuff, which is fine.

I am basically just curious if this sounds somewhat similar to other schools. We only go 1 day a week (for nursing), for 4 hours. (we also have other classes like math, anatomy and physiolgy ect ect for a total of 3 classes a quarter, so 3 days a week in all)

I am also more then happy to answer any questions you have about the school.

PS. Just so you know, I am enjoying the program, I am just curious how other schools do things.

Thanks in advance!

RN2064 are you seriously trying to compare , a huge and private, non-profit university that many consider to be on par with the Ivy League Universities, or Brown, or any of the very prestigious schools you mentioned.....with a local community college?

Yes, prestigious universities have research grants and alumni endowments which greatly add to their bottom line. I've never heard of a community college that had anywhere near the private support that a school like Vanderbuilt or Brown does.

And no one says that nonprofits don't accept tuition....but the money they take in from tuition and fees do not equal the amount that it costs to run the school....that's why they are government funded.

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Why are people on here that don't go to/hasn't gone to ITT? Okay, we know we go to a for-profit school..there's no need to get on here and argue about it in the space that could be used for us to talk about our school...please stop :)

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RN2064 are you seriously trying to compare Vanderbilt University, a huge and private, non-profit university that many consider to be on par with the Ivy League Universities, or Brown, or any of the very prestigious schools you mentioned.....with a local community college?

Yes, prestigious universities have research grants and alumni endowments which greatly add to it's bottom line. I've never heard of a community college that had anywhere near the private support that a school like Vanderbuilt or Brown does.

And no one says that nonprofits don't accept tuition....but the money they take in from tuition and fees does not equal the amount that it costs to run the school....that's why they are government funded.

Please read the actual post. First of all I never compared Vanderbilt to any other school. I quoted a article dismissing the previous statement that non-profits do not actually make a profit. Please re-read it maybe then it will make sense to you. I was not trying to dispute that non-profits do not accept tuition. We all know they do. You are right, the money they take in from tuition and fees does not equal the amount it costs to run the school, IT'S MORE! The point I was making is that just because it is a non-profit organization does not mean it doesn't make money.

For-profit institutions tend to run nearly 100% on tuition income. Some for-profits like the Game Art & Design program at the Art Institute of Los Angeles and the Doctor of Pharmacy degree program at South University are very selective, some are not selective at all. The same is true of non-profit institutions. While Harvard is very selective, your local community college is not at all selective. And while state institutions generally DO receive funds from state budgets, that is rarely the only source of their operating revenues. Many public schools have big endowments too, though no doubt dwarfed by "private" ones. And many of them do not give out more than 50% of their total donations. These are facts.

Nonprofit Corporations Can Do Good Works and Make Money, Too

http://www.inc.com/articles/1999/10/14703.html

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KaylaRN2013,

You are right!! I am just so tired of people who have not attended our school to keep knocking it. SO what it is a for-profit. We know that and we all can make our own minds up if the school is worth while or not!

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I hope to not bump heads with anyone. I do not go to a "for profit" school. I think that the people who are against for profit schools are just trying to advise to save someone not necessarily the op but someone who maybe pursuing the forum a little time, money and undue anguish. Personally i live in MD and the hospitals here are phasing out ADN nurses for BSNs and the nurses who currently ADN are given a time frame to achieve their BSn in order to keep their job and no for profit schools are accredited in MD at least not RN(they have MA & CNA that can get licensed). So the for profit grads would be at a disadvantage. Those credits are nontransferable at all schools here so it would be like starting from scratch even if you were to do the RN to BSN because you would have to take everything as if you were a freshman. Again I am not trying to step on any toes I just happen to see what they are trying to say.

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Please read the actual post. First of all I never compared Vanderbilt to any other school. I quoted a article dismissing the previous statement that non-profits do not actually make a profit. Please re-read it maybe then it will make sense to you. I was not trying to dispute that non-profits do not accept tuition. We all know they do. You are right, the money they take in from tuition and fees does not equal the amount it costs to run the school, IT'S MORE! The point I was making is that just because it is a non-profit organization does not mean it doesn't make money.

For-profit institutions tend to run nearly 100% on tuition income. Some for-profits like the Game Art & Design program at the Art Institute of Los Angeles and the Doctor of Pharmacy degree program at South University are very selective, some are not selective at all. The same is true of non-profit institutions. While Harvard is very selective, your local community college is not at all selective. And while state institutions generally DO receive funds from state budgets, that is rarely the only source of their operating revenues. Many public schools have big endowments too, though no doubt dwarfed by "private" ones. And many of them do not give out more than 50% of their total donations. These are facts.

Nonprofit Corporations Can Do Good Works and Make Money, Too

http://www.inc.com/articles/1999/10/14703.html

I read the post. You're using an article that discusses wealthy, prestigious schools as evidence that community colleges "make" money. The two have nothing to do with each other. Yes, a non-profit organization can show a profit....it's possible. That profit goes to running the organization. Yes, leading state universities might have modest endowments.

None of this supports the premise that Community Colleges "make" money. In fact, as multiple posters have pointed out to you....community colleges run at a a loss. None of the articles you have shown have spoken to this at all.

I'm not sure why you would continually insist that community colleges are making all this money?

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38598344/ns/business-your_retirement/

This is an article from a reputable source that states that community colleges all over the nation are struggling just to keep the doors open and that they depend on federal funds to stay afloat just hoping that this will quell some of the animosity on this forum.

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38598344/ns/business-your_retirement/

This is an article from a reputable source that states that community colleges all over the nation are struggling just to keep the doors open and that they depend on federal funds to stay afloat just hoping that this will quell some of the animosity on this forum.

This is something else I found:

"Most community colleges are operated either by special districts that draw property tax revenue from the local community, as a division of a state university, or as a sister institution within a state-wide higher education system. In all cases, community colleges are governed by a board of trustees, appointed by the state governor or elected from the community. Depending on the operational system, the board of trustees may directly govern the college or may govern the college through a university or system-level office. Depending upon the locus of control, the board may or may not be subject to control by a state agency that supervises all community college districts or all higher education institutions within the state.

The board of trustees selects a president or chancellor of the community college to serve as the chief executive officer and lead the faculty and staff.

How the board is chosen. Examine Wisconsin system Generic org chart Variety of structures Property tax- how does board work as a taxing body." Wikipedia

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http://www.fastweb.com/college-search/articles/2217-do-your-homework-before-choosing-for-profit-career-college?page=1 And this one is from fastweb.com a free services that provides information on scholarships and college info for prospective and current students. Hope this helps!!!
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Just pointing this out... There is a difference between Private "for profit" colleges, like ITT Tech and Devry, and a Private " Non Profit" college like Vanderbilt/Emory...

Also, I would note the distinction between private " for profit" colleges like ITT Tech, which aren't accredited, and accredited colleges like University of Phoenix...

If there were no other options I would go to the University of Phoenix, it is in essence and actual degree. I would never go to ITT Tech or Devry, the degree's aren't worth the paper they are printed on. I secretly laugh at people when they say they go somewhere like that. It would be an embarrassment to me... If you go there, please be aware many employers want a degree from an " Accredited University." You might be an RN, but at some places your degree will be looked at like a High School Diploma.

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Also, I would note the distinction between private " for profit" colleges like ITT Tech, which aren't accredited, and accredited colleges like University of Phoenix...

If there were no other options I would go to the University of Phoenix, it is in essence and actual degree. I would never go to ITT Tech or Devry, the degree's aren't worth the paper they are printed on. I secretly laugh at people when they say they go somewhere like that. It would be an embarrassment to me... If you go there, please be aware many employers want a degree from an " Accredited University." You might be an RN, but at some places your degree will be looked at like a High School Diploma.

First off, I am glad you were not in my school! Please do not try claiming ITT is not accredited? FACT! In my state ITT is accredited by Indiana State Board of Nursing and is in the process of NLNAC accreditation. Also my credits just transfered to a regionally and nationally accredited BSN program. So do I care what you think? No I don't. Also UoP does not have a good reputation based on what other people have said. I don't have experience in their nursing program to discuss that program. From personal experiences with UoP recruiting, I found them too pushy and too eager to enroll me, I likened it to borderline harassment. Just a FYI, I spoke with a local hiring manager that told me he would not consider graduates of UoP. So if you want to go there (UoP), THEN PLEASE DO and get off of the "I go to ITT board." Based on your name I am going to assume you are not in nursing, maybe not even a student. Are you an employee of UoP? Did you sign up just to discourage prospective ITT students?

Well you can keep on secretly laughing at ITT grads as we laugh our way to the bank. :lol2:Yeah that's right I am a RN, are you???

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http://www.itt-tech.edu/campus/school.cfm

National League for Nursing Accrediting Commission Visit and Public Meeting

The Associate for Science Degree program in Nursing ("Program") offered by the ITT Technical Institute in Indianapolis, Indiana, will undergo a comprehensive on-site evaluation for initial accreditation of the Program by the National League for Nursing Accrediting Commission, Inc. ("NLNAC") on February 22-24, 2011.

The nursing program at the ITT Technical Institute in Indianapolis has been granted candidate status with the NLNAC for the period of Fall 2009 to Spring 2011.

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