I absolutely HATE it!

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I would really like to know if anyone else has had the same experiences that I have.

First, a little background on me. I am an older male currently in a LVN program.

They only allow 20 students in the program at a time, 10 "Juniors" and 10 "Seniors." The seniors have been in the program for 6 months longer than the new juniors. Seniors are in a seperate classroom. Needless to say, I am a junior.

There are only 2 instructors and the program is one year long.

Anyway, when I first started the program, my thoughts were, "This is going to be rough. I am going to have to devote myself to my studies. I am not here to make friends, but to get through the course."

Now I am not like that, I am a really friendly person and have never met a stranger, but I really didn't want to get side-tracked and wanted to dedicate myself to my studies. Also, I was feeling a little out of place, after all I am older than most of the "kids" that I am in school with. Some of whom have just gotten out of high school. So for the first week or two, I kept to myself and didn't tell anyone anything about myself. I finally was asked questions about myself in class, so I thought, "I really need to be a part of the group, we will have to work together and lean on one another, so I should join in." I volunteered some information and talked a little about my wife and kids. They were astonished and refused to believe that I was married. They were upset that I might be married and yet, did not wear a wedding ring (I never have, I am not big on jewelry). One girl constantly harped at me about the fact that I do not wear a ring (You would think that SHE was my wife, the way she nagged me about it). One day, when I had enough of her asking me about it, I replied, "I don't wear a wedding ring because that makes it harder to pick up women." :lol2: I was joking of course, and had just about had it with hearing from her. Some of the others refused to believe that I even was married and considered it a "lie" because I had not mentioned it when we first started classes. Also, I am a little bit of a :clown: and a :jester:, and like to kid around. We were talking about bringing laptops to class one day, and I mentioned that mine needed to be repaired and was on the fritz and one girl said (under her breath), "Probably from looking at Media." I heard her and came back with, "Yeah, I was on my regular website Women With Dolphins and it just started messing up." They were all astonished at this and suddenly, I'm the Media Guy in the class. I was even asked if that was a real website...I couldn't believe it! Don't they know a snappy come-back when they hear one? Every time that I am just kidding about something, they all take it as gospel. They were all talking about how hard we are going to have to study for this course and asked me if I spend a lot of time studying, I said No, I am going to do as little as possible and try to skate through this whole thing.

They thought I was serious! So, every time I say something in a "just kidding" manner, they believe I am serious and when I say, "Hey, I'm just kidding", they say well then, why are you lying to us. I have just about given up on socializing with any of them. We started clinicals and I was a nervous wreck. I screwed up pretty badly many times. I did not understand how to do some of the homework and messed up there. :confused: :o The seniors are in charge of the juniors in clinicals. We are assigned to a senior and they oversee our triumphs and failures and report these back to the instructors. Needless to say, ALL of my failures were reported, but none of my triumphs. Which is another thing that really bugs me, the seniors know all about us, they know our grades, who is passing and who is not, who is doing well in clinicals and who is not, etc. With the few students that are in the classes, word of mouth gets around pretty fast...about everything. I have been the topic of conversation several times. One girl in my class seems intent on getting me kicked out, every time I make one little mistake, she runs and reports it to the instructors. She has made up lies about me, she has spread rumors, she has said many derogatory things in front of everyone when I was present, she has made me cry, :crying2: she has heard others talking about me and has triumphantly came back and reported what she heard to the class (whether she heard it accurately or not). She even stated where everyone could hear, "You know, you seem like a pedophile to me." I was really insulted and stated (very sarcastically), "Oh yeah. That's why I have two kids." Of course, to everyone there, it was if I said, "Yes, I am. I had children just for that purpose." It's not a "guy" thing, there are two other males in the program. There are other examples, but you get the point. Has anyone else been in a program that is set up like this...where you are being taught by other students? I am really bummed and want to thank everyone for letting me vent like this, I feel a little better. Of course, with my luck, my fellow students or instructors will see this and I will be on the crap list again. I just want to get through it all and be the best nurse that I can be. Anyone have any words of wisdom on the best way to deal with my situation? Please? Thanx.

These people sound horrible! I would not associate with them anymore. You do not need their approval. It's a shame that your classmates are like that because in programs like these, it's nice to have a support system. Leave them alone and let them find someone else to pick on. What a bully! P.S. If someone made a pedophile comment about me, you better believe I would report her for harassment!

Specializes in Psych, LTC/SNF, Rehab, Corrections.

My God...

I am so glad that my classmates aren't morons. *laugh*

I mean, some may talk a lot. They're 'know-it-alls' - but, we're a pretty mature group. The bulk of my classmates are military, second degree and prior hlthcare professionals...

We have 3 MA's, 7 CNAs, 1 EMT, 1 Xray/CT(me), 1 Lab tech, 3 Pre-Med students, etc... All kinds of hlth care professionals in there.

Many of them have families. So, they're more settled. The youngest students are pretty mature.

I'm in a diploma school, but...stilll. That shouldn't mean that I have to be surrounded by knuckleheads...and I thank the Director for testing/screening the class properly. Selecting the best. The buck stops with them, truly.

My classmates are very sharp. Our instructor even said so.

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I think that you messed up trying to be buddy-buddy. They're a bunch of highschool kids...practically.

Not to say that you can't be friends with someone younger than they...but, life experience, maturity levels...tend to differ. Everyone doesn't behave typically...but most do.

This doesn't have a thing to do with you being a 'male', imo. You are learning a very valuable lesson as a NonTraditional student. Just try to keep to yourself from now on. It's not worth the steess.

If you find commonality...fine. But - don't force it.

I've never actually been in your shoes because I pretty much ignored everyone when I was in college. Not that I was mean, because I was liked. Somehow, I was 'cool'. The hip older chick... *laugh* - but, I just didn't talk to anyone.

I'd get there. Wait for the lecture to begin. Lecture ends? I leave. I wasn't concerned with making friends and hanging out. My purpose is to learn. I have responsibilities and don't have time to screw around.

But, my classmates were still in that mode. Consumed with 'popularity' and 'being liked'...and 'cliquing up'.

As I told them, "I'm a clique unto myself."

They said, "Whoa..."

*laugh*

They'd see me eating lunch by myself and come over, "You're eating lunch by yourself? Oh my God...I coldn't do that. I'd be so embarassed..."

*laugh*

I said, "It's confidence born of maturity and experience. When you grow and age, you just aren't affected by things like that...you'll get there..."

...and it was pretty sad because some of those kids needed friends. That first year of college, y'know? I talked to them - but, meh...

18 and 19 years old. They're just not there yet. Besides that, I can't take them with me anywhere...FUN. They can't even drink! They can't even rent a car!

So, there's no point, unless they want be my 'designated driver'...

On a serious note, the girl called you a pedo? Is she harassing you or what? I'd either discuss the issue with her...or, if you're uncomfortable, speak to someone in the program about it. Your counselor or an instructor.

She's out of line.

On behalf of my generation, I apologize and reiterate what everyone else has mentioned. Best to save the jokes for those that will understand and appreciate them. You are in school to learn, not to make friends.

Your class doesn't sound like the brightest bunch and they will eventually learn that being popular will not get you through college. The BON doesn't care how many friends you have on Facebook.

Good luck and focus on your studies! Draw attention to your triumphs and when you make a mistake, be sure to learn why is was a mistake and take proactive steps to rectify said situation.

I am in the same boat as you. I'm 25 just turned 26 and there are "adults" in my class older than me or same age that act like they're still in high school! Get this, they even made an acronym for their clique name that contains their initials. They have been like this all through nursing school and I feel like they have been alienating all the older students and I hate it! I could tell how out of place the older students feel. What's worse...since I'm young yet I keep my own space, they have tried to passively-aggressively punish me for it saying that I've been weird and always ganging up on me asking "why am I alone all the time?? is there something wrong with you??" I'm not sure if its been my life experiences or maturity level (traveled and lived on my own since I was 19 between 3 continents..?) but I just don't level with them and they kind of annoy me. Also, it's become a competition on who's more popular, pretty, better dressed etc etc.

It's horrible and I'm glad I only have 2 more months til graduation. Just remember these people are not paying you and unless YOU are getting paid to get along with them- don't worry about it. It took me awhile to get over the psychological bullying- still going through it unfortunately- but just remember who you are and that those people don't validate who you are as a person or as a future nurse.

As for the sarcasm..I have the same humor. I clique mostly with the older crowd and more with the guys around my age haha. Women, especially if they are young, are just not a crowd that'll get it most of the time.

Specializes in Electrophysiology, Medical-Surgical ICU.

after you get your certificate....slap them al lol:smokin::yeah:

Specializes in Med Surg - Renal.

As an older guy who finished an ADN program in May, I can tell you this for sure:

Forget the humor.

Kids today don't get nuance, they don't get irony, they don't get...well anything about what we think of as humor. Look at it this way: They think Dane Cook is funny.

I want to thank everyone who posted a comment here. It helped me get thru a rough patch. Just to let you know, I stuck it out and I graduated just recently. It wasn't easy, but I did it and I finished with pride.

Taught by other students? No. I can understand peer mentoring, but not instruction in the sense that a student would replace an instructor.

Just be yourself. If they can't accept you for you, then its not your problem. However, I don't feel nursing school is all fun and games. You are there to learn, and as such, you should be focusing on learning. That doesn't mean one shouldn't have friends. You'll rely on your classmates as a sort of support group if/when things get tough in school, and vice versa. So, I wouldn't dismiss the other students just because they don't get your jokes or you don't find them "friend" material.

Specializes in OB (Doula), MS, Psych.

I am currently finishing up my RN program and these "snits" sound like some in my class. I too, would have got "your quick wit" but then again I am an older non-traditional student. The way they run their program with "peer management" is crazy!

Good luck my friend! Go back and kick some butt. Be strong and don't give up!

PS

Most of these types don't have any Emotional Intelligence from my experience. However, on the clinical floor you should be kicking butt :-)

Specializes in Case mgmt., rehab, (CRRN), LTC & psych.
I want to thank everyone who posted a comment here. It helped me get thru a rough patch. Just to let you know, I stuck it out and I graduated just recently. It wasn't easy, but I did it and I finished with pride.

Thanks for the update and congratulations on graduating!

bravo. now go and get your rn and don't look back.

:cheers:

First thing I can tell you is that women need, need, need a filter. The younger crowd is extremely naive and gullible. When I say filter I mean that even though many women can tell a sick joke or two themselves, they are in a competition. Competition is a man sport that men have always thrived in. They may see you as a threat because of your age, experiences, etc. In competition, people can also get insecure and find a reason to make you look bad just so that when you stand next to them, they feel superior. Remember! You mentioned that most of your class consists of younger students and some fresh out of high school. That means cliques, rumors, name calling. You get the deal. There is nothing wrong with humor, but there is a time and place for it. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like the classroom is your calling for such mature, if you'd call it, jokes. Don't sweat the small stuff (everyone and their petty insecurities). Focus on your goal and one day you could be teaching these 'children' how to be more mature caregivers.:hug:

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