I was suddenly brought into my managers office one am a month ago and told that HR was drawing up termination papers for me. She said I might want to think about resigning ... if I do I could work somewhere for one year I be rehired at the hospital. I mentioned that I would try to get unemployment since I am the wage earner in my family.
My husband has just recently been diagnosed with early onset Parkinson's disease. She said the hospital would fight me on that...So I applied and was awarded. DE only pays $320/week..period. But since I did some agency work I never actually was paid anything. So last week I get the denial from Unemployement with my EX employers statement. They said I was never told I would be terminated..and I left on my own accord.
I don't want the money ... it's not enough to pay my bills...but what would You do? ESP. Since I don't know what my EX employer is telling my new prospects when I am called for interviews.
Always good to keep records of communication incase of anything. I put in my 2 weeks notice for reasons beyond my control. HR couldn't work with me and i had no choice than to quit. I filed for unemployment, during interview, former employer told Unemployment office that i just worked out with no notice. Lol. Which wasn't, i then faxed unemployment office a copy of email, from HR thanking me for my hard work, and acknowledging my 2 weeks notice. I was even let go before my 2 weeks. I was approved for unemployment and no issues. HR will always fight unemployment and lie.
so I resigned and then worked out my 2 weeks. No I didnt just not show up.
It's going to be very difficult to prove you didn't just up and decide to resign and worked out a typical 2 week notice.
If you never saw actual termination papers from HR it's very possible that one was never forthcoming, that the manager just told you that. In that case HR is telling the truth, you quit with 2 weeks notice.
Why would you up and just voluntarily quit in your situation?
Who knows, people do it every day because they don't feel like working that job anymore and think it will be easy to get another one, when that doesn't happen they try to get UE. Sometimes people up and quit because they don't feel like working at all for a while and are under the mistaken belief they can draw UE. (I'm not in any way implying they you may have done this, just pointing out that it does happen.)
umm No I loved this job. Loved it. Want to become certified in this field and have learned many wonderful things while there.
No I resigned because my manager Told me she had been in touch with HR and they were drawing up papers to fire me. SHE told me if I resigned I would be able to work there after working a year somewhere else. And no I didn't just not want to work..my salary pays the bills as my husband is disabled suddenly with no income.
In general, the Federal-State Unemployment Insurance Program provides unemployment benefits to eligible workers who are unemployed through no fault of their own (as determined under State law), and meet other eligibility requirements of State law.
Unemployment insurance payments (benefits) are intended to provide temporary financial assistance to unemployed workers who meet the requirements of State law.
Each State administers a separate unemployment insurance program within guidelines established by Federal law.
Eligibility for unemployment insurance, benefit amounts and the length of time benefits are available are determined by the State law under which unemployment insurance claims are established.
In the majority of States, benefit funding is based solely on a tax imposed on employers. (Three (3) States require minimal employee contributions.) "
An employer's tax rate for this unemployment tax is based on past benefits collected by former employees. Unemployment benefits do not fall magically to the ground from the mythical money tree.
You seem to be quite embittered by people utilizing a state program they may be entitled to. Are you equally angry with people who qualify for disability or Social Security?
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I thought I was pretty clear but I'll try again; There is NO state where being terminated or threatened with termination automatically qualifies you for unemployment, nor would it improve your chances in any scenario I can think of. Whether you resigned, were fired, or were threatened with termination you would need to make an argument extenuating circumstances to win an appeal. Claiming you were threatened with termination does absolutely nothing to change that, unless you are making a hostile workplace argument. An example might be "My mom had a stroke so I resigned to care for my mom". Adding "plus, I was about to get fired anyway" will only hurt your chances if it does anything.
Well, I was terminated from a job. There was no arguing, no haggling...I just said I was fired and that was that.That's all I have to say. There have been others here who have explained that your statement is untrue, so I'll just leave it there.
I was "fired" for going over my FMLA time for a legit medical problem, although my employer came up with 2 small BS reasons to make it look better on them. I received unemployment. In that state, you don't receive unemployment if you resign. Period. Even if they were threatening you with termination (which would be heresay). None of my subsequent interviewers have known that I was terminated. In that state, it's illegal. All they are legally allowed to tell potential employers is my start and ending date of employment. Good luck.
So how is a hospital supposed to protect itself from horrible employees? If a nurse calls in all the time, or just doesn't show up, makes serious errors, is caught stealing, takes extended breaks, doesn't know how to do routine skills, etc.?
Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma.
Thank you..
Jodyangel....:hug:. As you can tell, nurses have very strong opinions and there are a wide variety of opinions on this subject. Nurses are notorious for being strong minded, intelligent and opinionated. We have to be it's the nature of the job. Most of us may growl but never bite and some of us who may bite might need to utilize muzzles.......(joking) occasionally......but all of us are really lap dogs at heart.
State laws vary state to state. Reviewers/appeals will vary case by case. Whether or not you will receive unemployment will vary from person to person. There is no reason that you can't apply all they can say is no. Have no guilt about using the services provided by our government paid for by the very tax dollars removed from your check every week.
The state will know if suddenly there is a rash of applications for unemployment from a particular facility and may make judgements accordingly. The more a facility pays out of unemployment the more they have to pay"back" so to speak. Kind of like your car insurance. If you are a high risk....you pay more in premiums because they are always repairing your car.
Therefore if a manager wants to keep her job......she has been told she needs to "get rid" of X amount of employees in a way that won't lead to having to pay any benefits. Voluntary resignation is one of them. There is a greater chance of not getting benefits if you resign than if you are fired or laid off. That is why I don't believe the unemployment numbers for they don't account for those why don't apply, can't apply and those who have been unemployed so long they have run out of benefits.
There is no morality in their behavior and that is hard to accept.....for we as nurses have this idea that our bosses are honorable and trust worthy because they are nurses. Unfortunately......they need their jobs as well and they know perfectly well that if they don't comply they too will be on the unemployment line (even thought there is not a "real line" as most is online).
Hospitals have learned, and I believe perpetuated, that the creating the present nursing surplus by creating a "shortage" was to make sure money from the government was "made available" for the education of nurses all with the ultimate goal to cause a surplus decreasing our demand and bargaining power.....and with it our salaries and benefits.
The job market stinks out there right now. Hospitals are behaving badly. It is better to be fired than to be threatened that if you don't resing you will be fired.......we as nurse believe that we are less of a nurse if we are fired. There once was a time that you "really had to be incompetent or a drug addict" to get fired and in some ways that was right......before the economy dumped.
If you voluntary force resign...get it writing or get a recommendation letter and stand your ground....for they will always lie behind your back. Hospital administration are not your friend and neither is HR.
One door closes and another will open......:hug: I wish you the best.
Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma.
So how is a hospital supposed to protect itself from horrible employees? If a nurse calls in all the time, or just doesn't show up, makes serious errors, is caught stealing, takes extended breaks, doesn't know how to do routine skills, etc.?
Hospitals are utilizing whatever means possible to get rid of liabilities. Technically she couldn't be fired on FLMA because of the FLMA. But , hospitals don' t want sick/disabled nurses no matter how good they are.......personal experience.
My wish is that you never have to witness the discrimination that accompanies being sick. Not all nurses with chronic illnesses are horrible employees even if they call out sick. But they can and have been accused of many infractions that are extremely damaging, morally devastating and difficult to prove.
Trust me I know the behind the scenes outtakes and have been a victim myself. Nothing is more devastating that to be tossed aside by they very people you have devoted a lifetime working in the care of others and in the improvement of the profession itself.
Wow. Yes I have resigned and have been out of labor and delivery for a month. I am working part time for a staffing agency in a Select Hospital taking care of wounds trachs and vents. I hate it. I have applied and applied..2 interviews in the past few weeks but no reply yet. I feel like throwing up 90% of the day. I am going to start pushing at the LTC facilities next. Go figure...I left being an LPN to work specialty. My husband says don't worry. ha. I would if I could. I am hoping for an interview next week at a hospital an hour away. I have 2 old coworkers who personally know the NM there...and will give me good reference. Hate the thought of driving an hour to work...but need to get a paycheck again. My mind is scattered...scary to go to work feeling like this..
(joking) occasionally......but all of us are really lap dogs at heart.
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Always good to keep records of communication incase of anything. I put in my 2 weeks notice for reasons beyond my control. HR couldn't work with me and i had no choice than to quit. I filed for unemployment, during interview, former employer told Unemployment office that i just worked out with no notice. Lol. Which wasn't, i then faxed unemployment office a copy of email, from HR thanking me for my hard work, and acknowledging my 2 weeks notice. I was even let go before my 2 weeks. I was approved for unemployment and no issues. HR will always fight unemployment and lie.