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Hey all. I'm starting in September and just want to know what I should be preparing myself mentally for. How much poop/puke/pee etc is involved? Is it a daily basis thing or just once in a while?
I'm not totally averse to it, just want to start getting prepared. =)
I mean, I don't plan to work as an RN much. Some people go to BSN school because they want to work in policy, CRNA or NP or PA. I never said anything about getting an aide to do any work. I just wanted to know an accurate, specific estimate of how often cleaning poop comes up in nursing school.
How can that possibly be answered? That's like saying how many accident victims will I see, or overdoses, or assaults, or on and on....... You just have to expect the worst and hope for the best! That's my plan, anyway.
What you want to do after nursing school is pretty much irrelevant to your nursing school experience. At least that is how I have found it in my first semester. No one at the clinical site (or in lecture, for that matter) gives a crap (excuse the pun) what you think you'll do after you graduate. You are a nursing student. That is all...no more or less special than the next student. You will clean up poop at the rate fate, the nurse or your instructor assigns it to you.
How many times do you have to wipe a butt to be a good NP? You guys act like ppl who go straight on to NP are somehow manipulating the system. Again I will say that no one in their right mind likes cleaning poop.
Of course no one likes cleaning excrement.....I think that when becoming a nurse one should consider/know what is involved....it has always amazed me when people go into a profession that deals with humans 24/7 and want no part of what that really means....which includes dealing with sick humans and their excrement evenings, nights, weekends and holidays.
For the record.....I am opposed to all of these direct entry NP programs and any NP programs that teach advanced nursing without a requirement of 3 years experience at the bedside. I think all advanced practice degrees should require a minimum experience of 3 years......like most GOOD CRNA programs.
Of course no one likes cleaning excrement.....I think that when becoming a nurse one should consider/know what is involved....it has always amazed me when people go into a profession that deals with humans 24/7 and want no part of what that really means....which includes dealing with sick humans and their excrement evenings, nights, weekends and holidays.
For the record.....I am opposed to all of these direct entry NP programs and any NP programs that teach advanced nursing without a requirement of 3 years experience at the bedside. I think all advanced practice degrees should require a minimum experience of 3 years......like most GOOD CRNA programs.
Well that's the way they set up advance practice programs. I know many GOOD CRNA programs that require 1-2 yrs and many are starting to do 2+ minimum. I also believe that NP programs should require at least 1-2 yrs of practice.
Haven't met a CRNA yet that couldn't find a job. It might not be at home or their favorite city but they will have a job. I can't speak for NPs though.
The KEY WORD here is the word YET. No one would have believed that the "nursing shortage" would have ended so abruptly assisted by a poor economy and the rapid proliferation of these for profit schools......I think we have just begun to see the impact of the proliferation of the advanced schools.
Look, I'm definitely not opposed to working at the bedside, cleaning poop, etc, in the context of providing patient care and helping a person in need. I think it's very important, and I would return to the bedside even as an NP if my economic situation demanded it.
I think there's kind of a controversy within the nursing field on how much emphasis to place on "intimate" patient care as a necessary prerequisite to all other types of patient care... including providing anesthesia, prescribing psychiatric meds, etc.
I realize that as a psych NP I'm not going to affect systematic change or anything. I just want to be a good teacher to young children's parents, to inform them of their options in a way that sometimes general practitioners don't. Maybe if I do policy work someday, I will create change, and I'll have the personal background as a PMHNP to vouch for my views.
A couple years ago, I actually had a panic attack one night and went to urgent care the next day because I felt I was having breathing issues. The general practitioner tried to give me Xanax and didn't even suggest any type of psychotherapy or workbooks or anything! I want to minimize those kinds of occurrences.
Side note: Neither Yale or UPenn require any RN background for their NP programs.
Anyway, replying to this thread is getting to be a waste of my day. I appreciate that there are different opinions out there, now I need to go get some work done. See y'all later.
The KEY WORD here is the word YET. No one would have believed that the "nursing shortage" would have ended so abruptly assisted by a poor economy and the rapid proliferation of these for profit schools......I think we have just begun to see the impact of the proliferation of the advanced schools.
And that's something we should be fearful of...one of the TOP respected professions. The expectation is to be a competent individual, able to handle the holistic individual. It doesn't do ANYONE any good with the proliferation of these schools. I don't want to see the dilution of competence in our profession-it truly has an impact on patient outcomes...the REAL basis of our practice.
I am reminded of a fellow student in the LPN program I attended. Her philosophy was: "I'm going to medical school. I'm not going to wipe s****y a***s , I'm just in the program as a stepping stone to med school." I so hope she didn't make it that far, nor is working as a nurse, either. She had the most arrogant attitude of anyone I ever met. I felt the same about several fellow students in the ADN program I attended. . .
A couple years ago, I actually had a panic attack one night and went to urgent care the next day because I felt I was having breathing issues. The general practitioner tried to give me Xanax and didn't even suggest any type of psychotherapy or workbooks or anything! I want to minimize those kinds of occurrences.
Side note: Neither Yale or UPenn require any RN background for their NP programs.
Nevermind on what I originally said on this comment.
manusko
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Haven't met a CRNA yet that couldn't find a job. It might not be at home or their favorite city but they will have a job. I can't speak for NPs though.