Hi everyone! I'm a new nurse and I had a really bad day a bit ago with a patient who I had to call our rapid response team for and he ended up in the ICU (I have no idea other than that, HIPAA and all) and a small part of me wants to know how he is doing. He was young and I felt helpless when I couldn't fix the oxygenation issue that was going on at that time (O2 sats dropping despite increasing oxygen to 6 liters-the only method we have on our floor is nasal cannula unless respiratory brings it). I hugged his mother as they left the floor and that's the last I heard about him.
I've done everything I can think of to leave it at work but it still nags at me occasionally that I want to know how he's doing. Logically, I know that it's honestly none of my business, I'm there for my shift to take care of my patients and go home and return on my next scheduled shift to do the same. I have no desire to call and find out or do any of the creepy things I've read/heard about nurses doing (showing up to the room to check in on my days off, calling, sending flowers, etc.). I honestly just have a curiosity that I know can't ever be satisfied and I think it's because he was the first patient who left the floor on my shift to go to a higher level of care. I've had fleeting thoughts of other patients, too, who have touched me in some way, whether it be how sweet they were to me or how kind their family was.
I just need to know: what kind of methods do you use to leave it at work? I know this is one of the (I'm sure many) places I need to improve.
It's important we all treat each other with respect, and, yes, that includes me as well, of course.
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It is truly important to remember to treat each other kindly and with respect and to be understanding if someone isn't feeling all that great, or is demoralized or challenged by the work we do.
Ha ha. Yep you've been a great example toward Dranger.
The fact that you seem to have posted this in all seriousness after your treatment of Dranger makes me wonder if you're delusional or just punking all of us.
You may believe what you are saying but the most current, up to date research in many human health care providing fields would beg to differ. You seem very passionate about your views, but I'm afraid to say your views are not reflecting someone who is really understanding what lateral violence, bullying, or abuse really is. There are many current research articles that you can read if you don't want to believe me. You seem very focused on me, but I invite you to broaden your focus and pay more attention to the cultural considerations and the impact of lateral violence on the field of nursing and how it is shown to hinder patient care.
please, research it, you will see that many professionals have contributed to this body of knowledge and that it is very culturally relevant on many levels.
good luck to you in your career and your research.
I'm fully aware that there is a body of research. And I'm also fully aware that words mean things and I'm sick of agendized academics who never leave the ivory tower using them poorly.
I don't deny that negative interpersonal interactions take place. I just want the nomenclature to make some sense. That comes from being a plain spoken west of the Rockies type. Quit with the nonsensical ivy league crap and use language that makes sense. No one whose problems are only verbal has any right to use the language of those who truly have faced real violence.
Specializes in Oncology; medical specialty website.
The thread speaks for itself.
In this thread I:
1. Stated nursing was just a job
2. Gave a medical reasoning for the OP not to worry over the patient
3. Questioned a second poster's experience after her harsh remarks regarding my opinion on nursing as a job.
4. Responded to baseless ad hominem attacks on my nursing care after poster made uncalled for comments about my work professionalism
5. Called out poster for lying about her said experience
6. Re-educated above poster on her fantastical and unrealistic views of nursing only just one month into her career
But yeah I am such a bully and burned out.
I see this is your first post, very interesting....
Dranger, I'm sorry that there seems to have been a pile-on with you. I think the snipes directed at you are an example of bullying. I know you can probably handle it yourself, but I think this needed to be said.
Specializes in Oncology; medical specialty website.
Thanks for the advice and everything. However, this was uncalled for since I was never "bullied" in this thread by anyone, nor was the person who came in with the trite "I hope you're never MY nurse." She was called out after she made inflammatory statements re: the assertion that nursing is "just a job" but never bullied. Dranger was actually quite helpful in easing my mind that I had done the right thing, honestly.
Saying Dranger was burnt out was pretty rude imo, and showing the type of behavior you are stating is wrong in the first place.
Thanks. I'm glad you said this; this ganging up on one poster is rude and an example of bullying. It doesn't just go from older nurse to new nurse. Newer nurses are quite adept at being hostile to their more experienced peers.
izzydame, you came in guns blazing and have made a terrible impression on here. You may want to consider changing your username, although that might not even help, because we still know who SuperRN is and she changed hers.
No one is going to take you seriously after your attack on Dranger. An unsubstantiated attack, at that. Why come into a thread this late and jump on an experienced nurse who has been a member for a long time who wasn't even talking to you?
I think this is a good teaching moment and I am going to lay it on you.
1) It is a good idea to lurk around the site until you know the rules and the expectations.
2) It is a bad idea to jump in with both feet into the deep end of a conversation. You don't know if the shadows under the surface are sharks or dolphins.
3) If you see something you don't like and want to call out the poster, send them a PM once you have enough posts. Sometimes you are misinterpreting what you see and it is unfair to the person you are attacking to flay them in public.
4) If you see something you don't like and no one, or only one person, has said anything after a couple pages of posts, chances are you misinterpreted it.
5) It is OK to say you are sorry when you screw up. I do it all the time. We have more respect for the people who learn from their mistakes.
lol @ ivy league words. That's funny. This is a very interesting group with very interesting views.
In case anyone was interested how I came to this particular thread let me explain. There is an email that is sent out to anyone on the website's mailing list. Emotional health in nursing happens to be one of my primary research areas right now. The topic the OP posted and this link was one of the headliners of the email. I hit the link and was quite astonished at some of the things I was reading in what I believed was a professional site. Clearly the anonymous aspect of this site lends some unprofessional behavior but still am a little curious about some of the discussions.
Please feel free to take whatever I say that makes sense for you and discard the rest. I'm not a fan of some of the behavior here so please understand I won't be responding to all remarks.
I will be sticking around and learning a little more about what happens on these sites. The profession of nursing happens to be very near and dear to my heart.
Take care and thank you all for your investment in this conversation. It is very interesting to hear everyone's point of view, whether I agree or not. I'm learning quite a bit. So, thanks.
Specializes in Oncology; medical specialty website.
lol @ ivy league words. That's funny. This is a very interesting group with very interesting views.
In case anyone was interested how I came to this particular thread let me explain. There is an email that is sent out to anyone on the website's mailing list. Emotional health in nursing happens to be one of my primary research areas right now. The topic the OP posted and this link was one of the headliners of the email. I hit the link and was quite astonished at some of the things I was reading in what I believed was a professional site. Clearly the anonymous aspect of this site lends some unprofessional behavior but still am a little curious about some of the discussions.
Please feel free to take whatever I say that makes sense for you and discard the rest. I'm not a fan of some of the behavior here so please understand I won't be responding to all remarks.
I will be sticking around and learning a little more about what happens on these sites. The profession of nursing happens to be very near and dear to my heart.
Take care and thank you all for your investment in this conversation. It is very interesting to hear everyone's point of view, whether I agree or not. I'm learning quite a bit. So, thanks.
This thread isn't about you or your pet topic(s). It's about how to leave work at work. It's not about attacking another member of the site because you don't like how s/he expresses him/herself.
Hopefully we can back to the original topic, which was "How Do You Leave It At Work?"
And I will once again register my disapproval of the utter ridiculousness of calling mere words "violence." Only in oxygen and common sense deprived think tanks do they use such ridiculous hyperbole. Violence is getting shot up by terrorists on a beach, or at your church, or for being a girl who wants to go to school. Violence is getting beat up by your spouse or having a gun pulled on you at your job. Words you don't like ARE NOT violence.
I think words can affect you violently. I know they have affected me that way, sometimes. Minimizing and scoffing at "mere words" does a disservice to those who are verbally abused.
I am NOT Saying this thread is an example of verbal abuse, because it isn't. I just take issue at the thought the only true violence is physical. 'Cause it's not.
Ask the victims of true bullying, or those poor teenagers who kill themselves over cyber-bullying.
I have been the victim of both kinds of violence and I would rather be beaten any day. It doesn't hurt nearly as long.
Talk to your unit's (or department's) clinical instructor. It's not a violation of HIPAA if the purpose of learning the outcome is to improve your nursing skills, and if names or identifying numbers aren't used. I'm an ER nurse, and whenever we transfer trauma patients to a higher level of care the receiving hospital does give us a follow-up on the patient (minus his/her name, for confidentiality's sake).
Typically, they'll send a brief rundown to the nurse(s) and physician(s) who cared for the patient, labeling him/her "a 47 year old man who was transferred to this facility following a category I car vs motorcycle trauma on August 10," or similar. It's certainly not inappropriate to want to know that you did everything appropriately on your end, and didn't miss any potential complications.
Ask the victims of true bullying, or those poor teenagers who kill themselves over cyber-bullying.
I am a victim of true bullying, thanks, who seriously considered suicide briefly as a young teenager. I took plenty of verbal BS and it sucked, but the day I was surrounded by a group of boys and physically beaten in an open quad during break with no response from any authority figure is the day I'll never forget.
I stand by every word I said, because I actually DO know what I'm talking about.
I am a victim of true bullying, thanks, who seriously considered suicide briefly as a young teenager. I took plenty of verbal BS and it sucked, but the day I was surrounded by a group of boys and physically beaten in an open quad during break with no response from any authority figure is the day I'll never forget.
I stand by every word I said, because I actually DO know what I'm talking about.
You are so hostile and prickly on this site that I want to just hug you and make it go away for you, but I know that isn't the answer. I wish that hadn't happened to you. I am sorry that it did. I will PM you to keep from derailing further.
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Ha ha. Yep you've been a great example toward Dranger.
The fact that you seem to have posted this in all seriousness after your treatment of Dranger makes me wonder if you're delusional or just punking all of us.